The Go-Betweens - what's it all about?

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i wish it was twice as long.

nerve_pylon, Thursday, 11 January 2018 00:40 (eight years ago)

the Forster book is among the best rock memoirs I've read.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 January 2018 00:42 (eight years ago)

Been reading some of Robert's stuff in The 10 Rules of Rock and Roll and finding it pretty well written so based on that and positive reviews by the likes of Alfie and a writer in the Grauniad I think I am going to have to buy it.

Before Hollywood Swing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 11 January 2018 00:57 (eight years ago)

Second “it” meaning the memoir

Before Hollywood Swing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 11 January 2018 01:01 (eight years ago)

Don't call me Alfie, please.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 January 2018 01:03 (eight years ago)

So sorry. I thought I saw someone else do it, but perhaps they were referring to another poster who actually went by that name.

Before Hollywood Swing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 11 January 2018 01:09 (eight years ago)

Might also have been subconscious effect of watching Jeopardy! with the Redd family and seeing a question about Maurice Micklewhite.

Before Hollywood Swing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 11 January 2018 01:19 (eight years ago)

it's all good!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 January 2018 01:20 (eight years ago)

Was wondering if albums had even been polled and found that this was the relevant thread Best Go-Betweens Album, which contains as a bonus a link to your piece about Spring Hill Fair

Before Hollywood Swing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 11 January 2018 01:30 (eight years ago)

Thanks! And here's yet another good Go-Bets thread. For instance, you might (and well you might) scroll down to May 2015, where the links that I posted back then and just now checked still work, though haven't yet tried 'em all; quite a few are on that doomandgloomfromthetomb page I started with (thanks for those, tyler):
The Go-Betweens - POX or CDR

dow, Thursday, 11 January 2018 02:51 (eight years ago)

Thanks. Been randomly listening to the catalog today, both group and solo. Right now totally digging The Evangelist.

Before Hollywood Swing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 11 January 2018 03:29 (eight years ago)

What is weird electro-noise which arrives with first chorus of Part Company that sounds like a cross between a theremin and a hissing radiator?

Before Hollywood Swing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 12 January 2018 03:43 (eight years ago)

That's the instrumental element which most haunted me; it sounded like a tea kettle.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 January 2018 03:45 (eight years ago)

And RF doesn’t give the secret away in Grant & I?

Before Hollywood Swing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 12 January 2018 03:48 (eight years ago)

He gives away too many secrets about McLennan.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 January 2018 03:51 (eight years ago)

What is weird electro-noise which arrives with first chorus of Part Company that sounds like a cross between a theremin and a hissing radiator?

I think that's Jacques Loussier on a Prophet 5.

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Friday, 12 January 2018 11:55 (eight years ago)

Has anyone heard anything as to whether the second box set is still happening?

michaellambert, Friday, 12 January 2018 14:14 (eight years ago)

the door is open wide!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBDe9BGNBnM

scott seward, Friday, 12 January 2018 15:15 (eight years ago)

Best use of oboe in pop music?

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 12 January 2018 19:07 (eight years ago)

Yep! I've said so.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 January 2018 19:10 (eight years ago)

only Roxy comes close ("Out of the Blue," "Nightingale").

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 January 2018 19:11 (eight years ago)

but what about "Crazy For You"!???
(just kidding, "bye bye pride" is the best use of oboe in pop music)

tylerw, Friday, 12 January 2018 19:17 (eight years ago)

Nightswimming is pretty great but this makes me want to dance in the street with strangers.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 12 January 2018 19:26 (eight years ago)

amanda brown guested with R.E.M. a couple times right? Maybe she was playing violin there ...

tylerw, Friday, 12 January 2018 19:37 (eight years ago)

does the cor anglais in "life in a northern town" count as as an oboe? judges?

scott seward, Friday, 12 January 2018 19:41 (eight years ago)

what a song

in twelve parts (lamonti), Saturday, 13 January 2018 10:04 (eight years ago)

On this video of “Head Full of Steam” looks like Amanda is playing a violin through an effect to make it sound like an oboe or something:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuuqJGLgjXw

Before Hollywood Swing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 January 2018 13:49 (eight years ago)

The official video for “Head Full of Steam” is, um, interesting.

Before Hollywood Swing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 January 2018 13:55 (eight years ago)

Enjoyed recently discovering the cover of “Bachelor Kisses” by The Radio Dept.

Before Hollywood Swing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 January 2018 23:53 (eight years ago)

Okay, got the book and have been reading over the weekend and have to say Alfred, as is the case more often than not, is right: it is one of the better rock memoirs. It hits the sweet spot of telling you stuff you wanted to know along with things you didn't think to ask about and seems to avoid, as far as I can tell as far as I have read, some of the obvious traps- score settling, evasion, meaningless digression or page-filling, embarrassing defensiveness, reinterpretation or misinterpretation regarding the author's own work. He is careful and cagey in describing Grant, playing one card at a time, interested to see what will be revealed as I get further along in the story.

Before Hollywood Swing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 14 January 2018 19:28 (eight years ago)

Yes, Forster is a writer: he doesn't insist on proving a thesis. What he has to share about his best friend he will do in a leisurely manner after he has limned scenarios.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 January 2018 19:34 (eight years ago)

He seems to be one of the few people besides myself who likes the Bryan Ferry record Dylanesque. I will have to reread his piece on that and reflect.

Before Hollywood Swing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 14 January 2018 22:11 (eight years ago)

Read through to end this weekend. Did not disappoint

Curly Morlocks (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 02:00 (eight years ago)

second box set is definitely happening -Robert mentioned it at a London book launch/concert thing late last year

jamiesummerz, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 11:20 (eight years ago)

Thanks Jamie!

michaellambert, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 14:25 (eight years ago)

I'd been meaning to read the book for a while, so I just bought it. No library in our multi-library system had a copy!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 15:01 (eight years ago)

Listening to Oceans Apart a lot, and to the '78-'90 comp. "Born to a Family" and "Second Hand Furniture." Oceans, with all its interesting feints and digressions, is the realization of their super-MOR Glen Campbell- John Phillips-Jimmy Webb concept. Only comparable fairly recent album I can think of is Freedy Johnston's similarly Webb-ian Neon Repairman.

eddhurt, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:15 (eight years ago)

Hmm, never really thought of that album as particular MOR in style. Anyway, "Finding You" is a beaut. That and "The Clock" are total late-era Grant keepers, though all three comeback albums are strong in their own ways, with the former two charmingly tentative (in a sense) and the last one totally assertive in its swing-for-the-fences confidence.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:27 (eight years ago)

super-MOR Glen Campbell- John Phillips-Jimmy Webb

OTM

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:44 (eight years ago)

Oceans Apart is their great record, after several excellent ones.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:45 (eight years ago)

Oceans Apart is excellent but it's also a disappointingly bad master. This was the album that led me to learn more about the "loudness wars". I remembering reading that Yep Roc were considering a remaster but saw nothing further. Did this ever happen?

doug watson, Thursday, 18 January 2018 16:29 (eight years ago)

It did. I bought the remastered version (after trading in the original) and it does indeed sound better.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 18 January 2018 17:54 (eight years ago)

Lomax also made replacement discs but I never got around to requesting one.

michaellambert, Thursday, 18 January 2018 23:36 (eight years ago)

Downy Mildew: Classic or Mold Spore

Hi! We're from Downy Mildew! And we've got a new album out called Mincing Steps!
This is all I know of them. Hilarious, nonetheless.

― Ally C, Wednesday, February 20, 2002 8:00 PM (fifteen years ago)

Curly Morlocks (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 January 2018 22:37 (eight years ago)

The above being a quote from Live On Snap, which I prefer somewhat to That Striped Sunlight Sound.

Curly Morlocks (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 January 2018 16:28 (eight years ago)

Have to see it took me ages to get into this band originally because I was put off by the post-punk yelping on the first album. Now I have changed my tune and am in completely in awe of the, um, fecundity and longevity of their creative partnership.

Curly Morlocks (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 January 2018 18:08 (eight years ago)

The Go-Betweens, that is, not Downy Mildew

Curly Morlocks (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 January 2018 18:25 (eight years ago)

The first album works in its way. The bass playing is enthusiastic and amazingly good for someone who apparently hadn't done it before. Just listened to it the other day and it's actually full of great ideas that are executed with a certain flair. In the post-Beefheart sweepstakes that record and all their stuff is a pretty amazing thing to contemplate, altho I also listened to "Just a King in Mirrors" the other day, and that's one of their best Velvets rips. The guitar obbligato in "Second Hand Furniture" is very Beefheart. Not that it may have been intentional. The non-idiomatic idioms are so fucking elusive somehow even when they play funk in the song that goes "they're taking heaven away" it's not quite like Pylon or Gang of Four at the same time, or even Pavement later, though lots of similarities.

eddhurt, Saturday, 20 January 2018 19:14 (eight years ago)

All well and good but what about the first album, Send Me A Lullaby?

Curly Morlocks (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 January 2018 20:12 (eight years ago)

not very good

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2018 20:14 (eight years ago)


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