pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

kaputt is better than everything that influenced it (though i know thats controversial), and he doesn't seem too fussed about that sort of thing really. in interviews for the last two albums he's seemed fairly bewildered that he got so much attention for kaputt but also doesn't really care if it happens again

he might say that in an interview, but his haircut says "it's hard"

you namecheck The Blue Nile for a certain vibe because the closest analogues (Avalon et. al.) just aren't really that close.

― Tim F, Tuesday, January 9, 2018 10:03 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

on one hand it's hard to imagine Blue Nile existing without Roxy Music's influence, but you're right that Avalon doesn't quite do the same thing, there's a certain louche quality to Ferry despite moments that are very heartbreaking, whereas Blue Nile seems entirely sadness and ennui (no fun disco times)

also, Avalon is a great record and definitely has its own magic quality, but it's also a ROXY MUSIC album, so it's pretty impossible (for me at least) not to view it in the larger context of "This is a phase in the evolution of ROXY MUSIC an iconic rock band", whereas Blue Nile just emerged fully formed with Walk Across the Rooftops, and when I first heard them (Hats) it all felt sort of mysterious like "where did these guys come from?"

kaputt is better than everything that influenced it

― ufo, Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:45 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

*closes tab*

hey everyone, i just went out into real life and took some readings. turns out that the stock of blue nile has risen, but only by 34 points, which hovers on the edge of stastistical significance. i repeat, blue nile's stock is up by 34 points over the last decade in the real world.

― Karl Malone, Wednesday, January 10, 2018 12:24 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

IDK man have you checked 538 recently? Things are turning around!

RealClearPolitics has Hats' silk bathrobe despair averages +10 over three months ago

The Blue Nile hasn't really hit me yet. I think that particular gloomy 80s soundscape is just not really my thing. I really like Mid Air a lot though!

the gloom comes for everbody eventually iirc

even turrican, though he be full of bile and blue nile denial

I love all sorts of other gloomy soundscapes though ftr

Gloom has always been my joint and it's precisely what this album is missing.

a gloom at the top

'Missing' more than 'lacking', really, as it fails to attain its goal.

xp

well it’s not really the gloom that crushes me on hats tbh - as the old cliche goes, it’s the hope

Win Butler responds to Trump's disparaging comments about Haiti

Mad Libs has gotten weird

feel like this happened before

Honestly that Pfork profiled the daughter of one their major brand partners is low key amazing. https://t.co/USfN8g0HN8

— David Turner (@_davidturner_) January 16, 2018

not surprising and yeah certainly not unprecedented. p4k is just Rolling Stone now. Schreiber will try to play gatekeeper as Jann has done, although without a Hall of Fame, not sure how successful he will be.

I'm predicting her actual album will end up scoring somewhere in the 5.something range.

I remember during the Chillwave boom there was the band Small Black that consisted of some guys that worked for Pitchfork.tv

lol i was going to post that youtuber then i clicked on it and read "singer & songwriter" in the kicker and went on my way

must be nice to have that Converse money

wonder if that's why her shoes are curiously cropped out in that photo

That song is good imo

sounds a lot like maria minerva

isnt this also a testament to youtube stardom being a rich kid pursuit

I haven't heard a note of this but I'm liking the idea of a third Paul brother trying to make a go at making an outsider house tape for Orange Milk

p4k is just Rolling Stone now.

"now"

i'm all for anybody making a go at outsider house

P4k won't be rolling stone until they give every hype album 3 1/2 stars

I can't see P4k truly becoming Rolling Stone, because they don't have a legacy act like a Bruce Springsteen or a U2 that they will give a high rating to regardless of an album's content. They are a little more concerned with hyping the new. Most bands that have been around for a while tend to get stuck in that 6-7.9 range.

they don't have a legacy act like a Bruce Springsteen or a U2 that they will give a high rating to regardless of an album's content.

Radiohead of course

I guess that's true, despite King of Limbs getting 7.9.

Radiohead preceded them, though. p4k's legacy acts are Arcade Fire and Animal Collective, both of whom they've either trashed or given lukewarm reviews to in recent years.

kanye?

not defining to their brand, of course, but i'm curious to see whether they give the next album a high rating after Pablo was the benefactor of a sort of critical ac/dc rule

I would not be surprised if a new Kanye album didn't show up this side of 2020, if at all

true, doesn't seem a high priority for him.

more on-the-nose p4k darlings are probably LCD Soundsystem, Bon Iver, and Fleet Foxes.

yeah otm, was gonna say LCD but they got a rave review last year. same goes for recent Bon Iver and Fleet Foxes records. so, point taken

Grimes? idk... p4k really only had a monopoly on taste in the mid/late 00s. LCD is spot on, I was gonna say Interpol too but like The Strokes they had that last gasp of support from MTV & radio. Same goes for Kanye.

Arcade Fire, Animal Collective, Bon Iver, Fleet Foxes, Dan Deacon... these are artists that owe p4k their careers imo

The Black Kids, of course

ahahahhaha

the difference is that there were a buttload of other sites/magazines rating that LCD album. Are there any heritage artists p4k goes out on a critical limb for?

clap your hands say tapes n tapes

Wasn't p4k pretty late on the Bon Iver bandwagon?

xxp right, that was my thinking. when they broke in 2002, p4k was still competing with mags & MTV & the last gasps of major label raiding.

oh yeah, add The Decemberists to the list. Microphones/Mount Eerie too.

xp i don't think so fred, i remember them giving a rave review of for emma forever ago before it had even been reissued, though i could be wrong. but they definitely weren't late on that one.

other sites rated the lcd album, but p4k did that hagiography of every single one of their tracks when they first "broke up". i feel like their commitment to making them Important goes beyond that of other pubs

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/10709-for-emma-forever-ago/

I don't know, it's positive, but it's not even BNM'd.

it was overlooked almost everywhere iirc, broke a year after release

broken social scene