pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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Sade and Tango in the Night are precisely the acts/albums I thought Tim was referring to with "monied class marginalia."

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 13:53 (six years ago) link

also -and this is entirely fanciful- but i listen to paul buchanan singing 'i know it's over now' and i can't help thinking about how morrisey's stock has fallen while the blue nile's has risen and maybe this is all part of some cosmic redressing of the books

faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 13:54 (six years ago) link

James Franco Says Sexual Misconduct Allegations Are “Not Accurate”

was Franco ever in a band or something?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 13:57 (six years ago) link

I would be very surprised if he wasn't.

President Keyes, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 14:05 (six years ago) link

tango in the night for lonely guys just thinking baout things
haha, that's good

as you elaborated, though, it's so romantically pathetic (in the Greek sense)

niels, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 14:25 (six years ago) link

it should be noted that the original u.k. pressing of a walk across the rooftops on Linn was designed to appeal to people who owned multiple copies of the mobile fidelity sound lab pressing of Aja. also, nobody owns any other album on Linn. #hipmusicalcrush

scott seward, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 16:32 (six years ago) link

I don't think The Blue Nile's stock has risen at all - it's more or less the same as it's always been. It's easy to get the impression that it's risen based off activity on this forum, but in the real world I'd say no. Morrissey's stock has definitely been damaged over the last couple of decades.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 16:43 (six years ago) link

turrican tell us more about the real world

brimstead, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 16:43 (six years ago) link

The biggest difference between Avalon and the first two Blue Nile LP's is that it's a far more exciting and absorbing record.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link

the reason that x is a bad poster is not bc they believe their opinions are objective reality but bc they are fundamentally incurious about what other people think and act like a humorless wiener about it

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 16:57 (six years ago) link

or even less "fundamentally incurious what other people think" than fundamentally incurious about the contexts in which music is meaningful to other people

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 16:59 (six years ago) link

this of course is an extremely dissonant attitude on what is ostensibly a ***discussion*** board imo and primarily expresses itself as long stupid arguments about the beatles

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:01 (six years ago) link

Translation: "Wahhh, why can't I have influence on people that can make up their own minds?"

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link

it's a far more exciting and absorbing record.

― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), 10. januar 2018 17:50 (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You're so pathetically bad at this.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link

your ability to absorb information is deeply impoverished

xp

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:05 (six years ago) link

i think their stock has risen a little but not a great deal

ufo, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:11 (six years ago) link

Yes, so Brad is annoyed that I won't (and don't - and I've already explained why) take his opinions seriously, and Frederik is doing his usual predictable Scrappy Doo routine.

None of this having anything to do with the perception of the Blue Nile beyond these forums, of course.

UFO kinda OTM but I feel that it just feels that way because a couple of people got into those records on this forum and were heavily vocal about it.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link

Or because Pitchfork just published a 'sunday classic' review of them. You're literally discussing them on the pitchfork thread. How dumb are you?

Frederik B, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:23 (six years ago) link

hey everyone, i just went out into real life and took some readings. turns out that the stock of blue nile has risen, but only by 34 points, which hovers on the edge of stastistical significance. i repeat, blue nile's stock is up by 34 points over the last decade in the real world.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:24 (six years ago) link

Well, objectivity has spoken. Discussion closed.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:25 (six years ago) link

this argument is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:28 (six years ago) link

Smart enough to realise that Pitchfork in the big scheme of things - even though it's obviously made a name for itself - still only speaks for a very small percentage of people on the planet, Frederik.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:32 (six years ago) link

you know what i'm bullish on? eastern sounds by yusef lateef. keep hearing people mention it. and you can even get 50 bucks for the 70s reissue now. did pitchfork write about it?

scott seward, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:32 (six years ago) link

I think we should settle this Blue Nile matter as we do all others, by checking Youtube views and Spotify streams, and then divining how many of them were Sincere

President Keyes, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:33 (six years ago) link

the hats reissue was largely ignored by the press in 2013 and i'm not sure that things have changed that much since then (t's nice p4k cares about them now) but i would like it if they had

ufo, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:34 (six years ago) link

lol scrappy dane

blue nile owns the zone u bums

Keak da Sneaky Dianne (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:34 (six years ago) link

also, kinks village green mania shows no sign of abating. people still REALLY want that record. the price just keeps going up and up for old copies. it's nuts.

scott seward, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:36 (six years ago) link

"sir, your product is The Blue Nile records"

Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:39 (six years ago) link

i do feel bad for that destroyer guy because he obviously likes a lot of really talented artists and it must be hard to never reach that level and want to so badly. kinda like all those people who wanted to be the beach boys and who nobody listens to anymore.

scott seward, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:42 (six years ago) link

The fact that this thread is still discussing the Blue Nile is one of the most ILM things I've ever seen.

MarkoP, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:44 (six years ago) link

kaputt is better than everything that influenced it (though i know thats controversial), and he doesn't seem too fussed about that sort of thing really. in interviews for the last two albums he's seemed fairly bewildered that he got so much attention for kaputt but also doesn't really care if it happens again

ufo, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:45 (six years ago) link

he might say that in an interview, but his haircut says "it's hard"

Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:47 (six years ago) link

you namecheck The Blue Nile for a certain vibe because the closest analogues (Avalon et. al.) just aren't really that close.

― Tim F, Tuesday, January 9, 2018 10:03 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

on one hand it's hard to imagine Blue Nile existing without Roxy Music's influence, but you're right that Avalon doesn't quite do the same thing, there's a certain louche quality to Ferry despite moments that are very heartbreaking, whereas Blue Nile seems entirely sadness and ennui (no fun disco times)

also, Avalon is a great record and definitely has its own magic quality, but it's also a ROXY MUSIC album, so it's pretty impossible (for me at least) not to view it in the larger context of "This is a phase in the evolution of ROXY MUSIC an iconic rock band", whereas Blue Nile just emerged fully formed with Walk Across the Rooftops, and when I first heard them (Hats) it all felt sort of mysterious like "where did these guys come from?"

Keak da Sneaky Dianne (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:38 (six years ago) link

kaputt is better than everything that influenced it

― ufo, Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:45 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

*closes tab*

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:35 (six years ago) link

hey everyone, i just went out into real life and took some readings. turns out that the stock of blue nile has risen, but only by 34 points, which hovers on the edge of stastistical significance. i repeat, blue nile's stock is up by 34 points over the last decade in the real world.

― Karl Malone, Wednesday, January 10, 2018 12:24 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

IDK man have you checked 538 recently? Things are turning around!

Evan, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:47 (six years ago) link

RealClearPolitics has Hats' silk bathrobe despair averages +10 over three months ago

Keak da Sneaky Dianne (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:50 (six years ago) link

The Blue Nile hasn't really hit me yet. I think that particular gloomy 80s soundscape is just not really my thing. I really like Mid Air a lot though!

Evan, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:50 (six years ago) link

the gloom comes for everbody eventually iirc

faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:57 (six years ago) link

even turrican, though he be full of bile and blue nile denial

faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:58 (six years ago) link

I love all sorts of other gloomy soundscapes though ftr

Evan, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link

Gloom has always been my joint and it's precisely what this album is missing.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:13 (six years ago) link

a gloom at the top

Keak da Sneaky Dianne (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:14 (six years ago) link

'Missing' more than 'lacking', really, as it fails to attain its goal.

xp

pomenitul, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:16 (six years ago) link

well it’s not really the gloom that crushes me on hats tbh - as the old cliche goes, it’s the hope

faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:17 (six years ago) link

Win Butler responds to Trump's disparaging comments about Haiti

billstevejim, Friday, 12 January 2018 18:39 (six years ago) link

Mad Libs has gotten weird

rob, Friday, 12 January 2018 18:55 (six years ago) link

feel like this happened before

Honestly that Pfork profiled the daughter of one their major brand partners is low key amazing. https://t.co/USfN8g0HN8

— David Turner (@_davidturner_) January 16, 2018

Frozen CD, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link

not surprising and yeah certainly not unprecedented. p4k is just Rolling Stone now. Schreiber will try to play gatekeeper as Jann has done, although without a Hall of Fame, not sure how successful he will be.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:30 (six years ago) link

I'm predicting her actual album will end up scoring somewhere in the 5.something range.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 22:45 (six years ago) link


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