yeah, ride on!
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 23:04 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V01oQ_BsX00
"how you always embrace the new, and how you free so many artists. thank you especially for your generosity of spirit, when it comes to other artists."
should be completely directed at Scott himself, too.
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 23:08 (six years ago) link
He's publishing his lyrics, interview here:https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/jan/15/scott-walker-sundog-book-lyrics-interview“But I can rate them, the albums, as I go along. Not the early ones, because I’ve no idea any more, but I can say the success rate of, say, Tilt, was about – from what I wanted to get – 65%. And then the next album was 75%, and on and on until I hit Soused, which was pretty perfect.”
― willem, Monday, 15 January 2018 07:06 (six years ago) link
Deluxe edition is € 500 :-/ Normal edition page leads to a 404.
https://scottwalkerbook.com/
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 15 January 2018 08:54 (six years ago) link
£ 500
jeezo
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Monday, 15 January 2018 08:58 (six years ago) link
this is sad publishing your lyrics in a bokk is for cunts tbh
― coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 January 2018 09:10 (six years ago) link
Agree. Doesn't help Walkers motivation isn't more than 'well my friend Jarvis said all the cool kids do it nowadays so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 15 January 2018 09:12 (six years ago) link
yeah taking advice from Jarvis Cocker would be another no-no
― coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 January 2018 09:15 (six years ago) link
have to say, i was a bit annoyed that my copy of The Drift didn't come with a lyric booklet when I bought it. Apparently the first editions did but 4AD phased it out afterwards. If I were to buy a lyric book by anyone, it would be Scott though.
― FREEZE! FYI! (dog latin), Monday, 15 January 2018 09:32 (six years ago) link
Also Scott is wrong in that Soused is definitely not his best work
He's not saying that, exactly.
― Akdov Telmig (Ward Fowler), Monday, 15 January 2018 11:31 (six years ago) link
Surely there should be a Fire Escape In The Sky type compilation for his forgotten 70s stuff? Anyone ever actually wade through them all? I'm surprised that the lyrics to some of Til The Band Comes In aren't in this book; The War Is Over is a winner for starters.
― piscesx, Monday, 15 January 2018 11:48 (six years ago) link
The No Regrets anthology includes a long essay by Ian Penman (one of his best pieces) that goes pretty thoroughly into the 'lost' period. Most of it was material written by other ppl, iirc, so probably wouldn't feature in this book anyway.
― Akdov Telmig (Ward Fowler), Monday, 15 January 2018 11:52 (six years ago) link
On the day the drift came out I read the lyric booklet through several times before I ever heard it, granted this was because I couldn't get home to put it on but it was goodLyric booklets >> whatever this thing is; I'm sure a lot of the lyrics to the early songs (perennial faves chez moi) are awful on paper. What's mostly noteworthy about this publication is that it has a section for New Songs
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Monday, 15 January 2018 12:02 (six years ago) link
Deluxe edition is € 500 :-/ Normal edition page leads to a 404. https://scottwalkerbook.com/― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 15 January 2018 08:54 (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 15 January 2018 08:54 (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Normal edition link works - is £14.99
There's a mid version as well, signed - £125
― Mark G, Monday, 15 January 2018 12:17 (six years ago) link
'well my friend Jarvis said all the cool kids do it nowadays so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"
You know, I actually like it that it's this.
I'm pretty sure a signed Jarvis one wouldn't fetch £500 (or even £50 (maybe £5, let's be fair))
― Mark G, Monday, 15 January 2018 12:18 (six years ago) link
― piscesx, Monday, January 15, 2018 11:48 AM (thirty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
There's quite a lot on the 'This Is How You Disappear' boxset, which is essential imo, also for the film stuff.
xp I hear you :)
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 15 January 2018 12:20 (six years ago) link
^ Are you sure about this? Wiki says that 'This Is How You Disappear' is CD four of the 5 Easy Pieces box set, and it doesn't seem to contain much from the wilderness years. It also says that Walker is blocking this stuff from being reissued.
£125 doesn't seem unreasonable for a signed SW book, especially given the man's lack of public appearances – I might even spring for that myself
― the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Monday, 15 January 2018 12:50 (six years ago) link
You are right, I mixed things up. 5 Easy Pieces is the box set, and it doesn't have a lot of the 70s stuff. Sorry about that.
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 15 January 2018 13:03 (six years ago) link
have to say, i was a bit annoyed that my copy of The Drift didn't come with a lyric booklet when I bought it. Apparently the first editions did but 4AD phased it out afterwards. If I were to buy a lyric book by anyone, it would be Scott though.― FREEZE! FYI! (dog latin), Monday, 15 January 2018 09:32 (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― FREEZE! FYI! (dog latin), Monday, 15 January 2018 09:32 (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah this was the one letdown with the vinyl when they reissued it. I'm assuming CD copies still come with one?
― Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 15 January 2018 13:25 (six years ago) link
I was in waterstones so read the eimear mcbride essay and the new songs section (read at least one of the songs in the former's voice and it totally worked). The new lyrics are v good scott walker lyrics imo, I had a kind of horrified grin on my face from the jokes and puns and imagery and quotations. There are musical "stage directions" for three of the songs that make me... curious to hear the record
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Monday, 15 January 2018 13:33 (six years ago) link
Pretty sure the 5 Easy Pieces has a bunch of tracks from the 'lost' 70s albums. I've heard them and there's maybe a few other tracks worth hearing more than once.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 15 January 2018 13:36 (six years ago) link
5 easy pieces is great, one of the few physical media things I regret selling
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Monday, 15 January 2018 13:39 (six years ago) link
The Moviegoer is a legit great album from that period
― Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Monday, 15 January 2018 15:53 (six years ago) link
Not sure anything from the CBS albums are present.
― Mark G, Monday, 15 January 2018 19:07 (six years ago) link
Ok, I took a closer look. "The Ballad Of Sacco And Vanzetti" from "The Moviegoer" is on disc 5 of the Easy Pieces box and "Someone Who Cared" from "Stretch" is on disc 2. I also quite like "This Way Mary" from "The Moviegoer", and there were some good singles from soundtracks in the 70s, such as "I Still See You", that didn't make those albums. But otherwise the rest is disposable.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 15:27 (six years ago) link
One CBS track? Hmmm, must have been less difficult to license than.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 16:20 (six years ago) link
I caved and bought the stupid book, okay?
― Badgers (dog latin), Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:42 (six years ago) link
so is there a new record coming out? when?
― Badgers (dog latin), Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:43 (six years ago) link
2030
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:47 (six years ago) link
Hell yesh Someone Who Cared is great. Also If Ships Were Meant To Sail is on a Jimmy Webb CD i bought about 20 years back called And Someone Left A Cake Out In The Rain, always liked that one.
― piscesx, Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:54 (six years ago) link
i like his caetano cover from the "lost" period
― Arnold Schoenberg Steals (rushomancy), Thursday, 18 January 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link
Not sure about the accent he puts on though. His version of "Cowboy" is great.
― Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 January 2018 19:26 (six years ago) link
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Thursday, 18 January 2018 20:08 (six years ago) link
how do we know he's got a whole album's worth already?
― Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 18 January 2018 20:20 (six years ago) link
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the book contains lyrics for songs for an upcoming album. I don't know if it's an album's worth of songs though.
― silverfish, Thursday, 18 January 2018 21:08 (six years ago) link
Yeah the book has like nine new songs
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Thursday, 18 January 2018 21:40 (six years ago) link
Yeah the Albert Hall was all about the first five albums..
I didn't know that Scott and Jarvis had already done a Drift/Tilt event a few years ago.. http://5against4.com/2008/11/16/drifting-and-tilting-the-songs-of-scott-walker/
― Mark G, Thursday, 18 January 2018 22:41 (six years ago) link
Yeah I remember when they announced that. The pain of being utterly unable to see it. I love 5 by 4 blog but never noticed he had that write up on there - it was really good.
― Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Friday, 19 January 2018 01:00 (six years ago) link
I was at that gig! Walker semi-disavowed it, saying something to the effect of "some of it worked, some of it didn't" but I thought it was really excellent, even the Jarvis bit. Only sour note was fuckin Damon albarn singing farmer in the city 😷
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Friday, 19 January 2018 01:04 (six years ago) link
You were there??? God damn you!
― Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Friday, 19 January 2018 01:05 (six years ago) link
Yep! Those two albums are huge favourites of mine so it was great to hear them realised live - meat punching and all. I also thought the staging really stayed true to the feel of the songs although I don't have the clearest memory of that side of it anymore (it was ten years ago fml) with the exception of patriot which I remember VERY clearly for some reason
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Friday, 19 January 2018 01:16 (six years ago) link
Damn, so jealous! Are there any recordings of those nights? The 'Clara' performance sounds amazing as per 5:4.
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 19 January 2018 01:36 (six years ago) link
Well, as I said up thread, at the end of 30 century man, Scott said something about maybe doing something that could be rendered in a live environment. Was wondering if that meant doing something like Kate Bush did, but hadn't realised he had already done it.
Must have been hard for Scott to put on without listening to it.
― Mark G, Friday, 19 January 2018 07:49 (six years ago) link
I was there too. Scott Walker is totally right that some things worked and some didn't, but I don't know if we'd agree on what worked.
I was really bothered by the soccer team picture and the guy with make-up and condoms in his stockings because it completely violated my idea of how these songs should look. There were a few other visual things I didn't like that I can't remember.
I was iffy about some of the singers like Jarvis and Albarn but I don't think anyone was bad. One of the opera singers didn't really work for me but it probably wasn't his fault. Wire magazine criticized the choice of some of the more popular singers.
The music was awesome, Gavin Friday was good but the absolute highlight was the dancing corpse lady, it was just perfect with the music.
Something else negative that left an impression was a couple a few rows behind me who clearly wanted to lets us all know that they thought it was all stupid and we were idiots for liking this arty farty nonsense but they were glad they saw Bono at the end when the performers were bowing (Bono just suddenly appeared to lead them out to take a bow). Most of the audience wouldn't hear their booing but anyone in a nearby seat would have.
Overall it was really good.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 19 January 2018 13:47 (six years ago) link
Lmao I do not remember bono at all(Fuck those people obv)
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Friday, 19 January 2018 13:56 (six years ago) link
why would you pay a premium to sit and slag off a show for being pretentious? surely they kind of knew what they were letting themselves in for?
― Badgers (dog latin), Friday, 19 January 2018 14:04 (six years ago) link
I don't think they did at all. According to their conversations, they were invited there by friends and were expecting something different, probably 60s style Walker.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 19 January 2018 14:10 (six years ago) link
I miss the Scott walker in records like 3, 4 and climate of hunter. At this point it would be more unconventional for him to make a straight up record than go more esoteric..feel like the only one who jumped ship after drift
― kolakube (Ross), Friday, 19 January 2018 15:14 (six years ago) link