Also thinking of the extremely edgy production - there's no attempt to conceal the loops and electronic sounds to make the whole thing "organic". I don't mind a bit of mastering, but hope they maintain that rawness.
― the Dirt, Monday, 10 March 2008 15:31 (eighteen years ago)
Is that a cookie request, Mark?
― Colonel Poo, Monday, 10 March 2008 15:34 (eighteen years ago)
om nom nom
― Mark G, Monday, 10 March 2008 15:53 (eighteen years ago)
nom?
― Mark G, Monday, 10 March 2008 15:59 (eighteen years ago)
I don't think this is an early master. Would they really work on it for ten years and then circulate a "rough" version like that?
Anyway, the rough sound is actually the most pleasantly surprising thing about it.
Is anyone else finding this album to be exceedingly re-listenable?
― Simon H., Monday, 10 March 2008 16:15 (eighteen years ago)
Not as such, no.
― Mark G, Monday, 10 March 2008 16:16 (eighteen years ago)
I'm listening to Hunter, Nylon Smile, The Rip, We Carry On and Machine Gun fairly repeatedly. The rest of the album, not so much.
― chap, Monday, 10 March 2008 16:42 (eighteen years ago)
Mark - om nom nom now available...
― Colonel Poo, Monday, 10 March 2008 16:43 (eighteen years ago)
"Small" is also a highlight
― baaderonixx, Monday, 10 March 2008 16:47 (eighteen years ago)
Have they announced what the first single's going to be?
― chap, Monday, 10 March 2008 16:54 (eighteen years ago)
The guitars in We Carry On are fucking awesome. The groove is even better.
― Scik Mouthy, Monday, 10 March 2008 16:58 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah, it's a great tune. The driving bass thump is really exciting.
― chap, Monday, 10 March 2008 17:00 (eighteen years ago)
Yes, that's my favorite so far. That bass line is unstoppable
― baaderonixx, Monday, 10 March 2008 17:02 (eighteen years ago)
Mind you, when it goes all Blade Runner / Terminator / Vangelis in Machine Gun, that's pretty fucking awesome too.
― Scik Mouthy, Monday, 10 March 2008 17:04 (eighteen years ago)
Actually if this album reminds me of any 90s album it's not Dummy at all, but Mezzanine. It's there in the heavy claustrophic sound, the coiled spring feel, everything closing in, and most of all those moments when the guitars pile in.
really good thread guys. i'm waiting for the CD release, but this post ^^ makes me want to hear it more than anything so far. love love LOVE mezzanine, so much.
― stephen, Monday, 10 March 2008 17:23 (eighteen years ago)
I still hate all of you.
― HI DERE, Monday, 10 March 2008 17:45 (eighteen years ago)
(Not begging for a download link or hookup, just me reiterating that I'm totally hating on everyone who hears theis before me without quarter.)
― HI DERE, Monday, 10 March 2008 17:46 (eighteen years ago)
It's considerably less densely layered than Mezzanine. Has the same weird creepiness, though.
― chap, Monday, 10 March 2008 17:47 (eighteen years ago)
Magic Doors is getting much love from me right now - that 70s psychedelic fake Indian feel plus what sounds like a muffled underwater trumpet solo = big heart signs.
― Matt DC, Monday, 10 March 2008 17:51 (eighteen years ago)
We Carry On was my immediate favourite. When the guitars come in it's like some alternate universe Joy Division.
I absolutely love the experiment of Deep Water, too.
And the way the riff builds in The Rip.
― Alba, Monday, 10 March 2008 17:53 (eighteen years ago)
I wish I could think what the melody of the Magic Doors reminds me of.
― Alba, Monday, 10 March 2008 17:56 (eighteen years ago)
Magic Doors is really growing on me, actually. The beat's good, and I like the unexpected leap to a major key in the chorus.
― chap, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:00 (eighteen years ago)
I was expecting The Rip to be a scratchy instrumental.
Read somewhere that 'Machine Gun' would be the single. Doubt it really but this would be great - for the video potential if nothing else.
― blueski, Monday, 10 March 2008 18:06 (eighteen years ago)
Just curious.. why do people assume they've been working on this for ten years, as opposed to taking the last 9 off and spending a year on this?
― rockapads, Monday, 10 March 2008 20:03 (eighteen years ago)
i like the guitars on "we carry on" too. they come on four times. the first and third time they have a sonic youth sound to my ears, noisy in a structured way. whereas the second and the last time there definitely is a powerful post-punk feel à la joy div (as mentioned before) to them. or am i hallucinating?
"deep water" sounds like a leftover from the first sparklehorse album. psychedelic folk.
― alex in mainhattan, Monday, 10 March 2008 20:06 (eighteen years ago)
We Carry On is def. my standout from the first few listens.
― stet, Monday, 10 March 2008 21:37 (eighteen years ago)
Umm...I really should refrain from commenting on this album until I hear it a few more times. That said, it seems maybe you guys hyped this up a bit too much. I don't see it having the longevity of Dummy or S/T. A lot of it feels unfinished right now. Oh well. Here goes spin #2.
― brightscreamer, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:30 (eighteen years ago)
Spin #2 is when it starts to get REALLY good.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 04:55 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah, the second listen is when shit started coming together for me on this one.
― Mikey Bidness, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:09 (eighteen years ago)
Holy hell, you're right about the Vangelis/Terminator ending to 'Machine Gun'. Sounds like something like play over a slow pan of the skyline of Airstrip One.
― Mikey Bidness, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:12 (eighteen years ago)
to play, rather.
― Mikey Bidness, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 07:13 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah the 1st listen was a bit hard for me. Seemed a bit samey and the general bleakness got me down.
― baaderonixx, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 08:36 (eighteen years ago)
The more I listen to this the more I'm convinced that HI DERE is going to love this.
― StanM, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 08:37 (eighteen years ago)
This is properly awesome.
― Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 09:41 (eighteen years ago)
Yes, it is. Loving The Rip most of all, so far.
― nate woolls, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 09:43 (eighteen years ago)
The mid-section of Small, when the weird bass ululation, scrape-y guitar and odd organ come in, is wicked. Then some kind of fucked-up cello and weird computer screams in the background. This album is moody as fuck. The (sonic) cracks around the edges make it much, much more authentically unsettling (to me) than Mezzanine (which I love the first side of).
The whole thing is like the soundtrack to a really frightening sci-fi horror movie, like Alien or something.
― Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 09:57 (eighteen years ago)
I was hoping "watercooling" was a new term to express the phenomenon of waning enjoyment of new music caused by people talking about it as a big ticket item too much.
I take it it refers to some sort of download thingy though.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 10:39 (eighteen years ago)
never read an album's thread before you hear the album
― blueski, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 10:59 (eighteen years ago)
This thread is a bit like watching the Oscars being dished out to films that have yet to be released in the UK.
― Daniel Giraffe, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:43 (eighteen years ago)
Yes, that's pretty much what current music talk is about on ILM. Case in point the new Bauhaus thread, where everything had been said two months before album release. Oh, well 21st century and all that...
― baaderonixx, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:45 (eighteen years ago)
You say this as if ILM (or the whole internet) hasn't been like this for at least five years now. Dizzee Rascal, anyone?
― Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:46 (eighteen years ago)
No I think 'watercooling' refers to that thread with Kate StClair on it.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:49 (eighteen years ago)
Oh how many ways one can water cool.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:51 (eighteen years ago)
watercooler thread is just a front for illegal music trafficking. ban this sick filth.
― blueski, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:53 (eighteen years ago)
what happens by the watercooler stays there.
― baaderonixx, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:55 (eighteen years ago)
or you can take it outside with your fag
― blueski, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:57 (eighteen years ago)
What happens if Hot Water Music releases a new album?
― StanM, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:57 (eighteen years ago)
other than "nobody cares" I mean
Yes this is much better than discussing the album isn't it?
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 12:17 (eighteen years ago)
you don't like fun!
unlike the rest of us portishead fans who - oh. ok. I'll get me coat
― StanM, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 12:28 (eighteen years ago)