Simon & Garfunkel - Classic or Dud?

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I love that song! The "how I love you" part at the end turns me to mush.

POX (off the top of my head)

America
For Emily, Whenever I May Find Her
Hazy Shade Of Winter
Patterns
Scarborough Fair/Canticle
Faking It
Mrs Robinson
Seven O'Clock News (Silent Night)
The Dangling Conversation

Albums

1. Parsley, Sage Rosemary and Thyme*
2. Bookends
3. Sounds of Silence
4. Bridge Over Troubled Water
5. Wednesday Morning, 3AM
6. The Graduate OST

*Wins over Bookends because of the hilariously over-earnest sleevenotes.

Ben Dot (1977), Monday, 9 May 2005 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Simon & Garfunkel...just the thought of stamping DUD on those great lyrics & Arty G's beautiful voice, man, your heart would have to be a shrivelled piece of coal to live with yourself for that. Okay so I'm exaggerating but I grew up with the 'Live At Central Park' double album, my Mum loved them, and I have nothing but good feelings when I hear their music.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)

somebody upthread mentioned that Garfunkel kills Simon in the acting dept. S/he forgot to mention Catch 22, in which Artie holds his own with Orson Welles, Alan Arkin, Martin Sheen... Is Garfunkel the best acting rockstar ever?

dl, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

All you Garfunkel hataz should read this

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

i listened to bridge over troubled water for the first time in a while ... so classic!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 12 May 2005 03:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm starting to prefer Simon solo to S&G.

i think his first solo record is the best, most coherent/satisfying thing he's done (though there are some songs on the second solo album that are incredible). but there sure are some awesome s&g songs, even if they all have a few lyrics and/or clipped diction that make me cringe. ("seeking out the poor-er quarters..." egads).

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 12 May 2005 05:35 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
been listening a lot - rather inexplicably (must be chronic AM depression) - of the "Collected Works" lately. Its frustrating how many truly great songs there are, all sorts of bizarre production idiosyncrasies, etc. and then they're pushed right up against some of the clumsiest, cringe-inducing crap ever. "How I Was Robert McNamara'd Into Submission"? ewwwww. "59th Street Bridge Song"? blech. and yet, the second half of the "Bookends" LP is completely perfect. at the same time, I can't remove my general affection for them from my childhood nostalgia for my mom's S&G obsession... they're such the quintessential "safe" baby-boomer act, and yet their appeal seems to occupy some strange space that is not rock, folk, or pop, its off in its own little world.

Also, why was S&G never mentioned as a massive "influence" on Belle and Sebastian?? It seems so glaringly obvious.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 28 July 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

ten months pass...
Apparently I'm going through a fairly cyclical S&G phase.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 12 June 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

classic, of course!

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

Great song-writing, great harmony.

Classic.

shorty (shorty), Monday, 12 June 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

I still can't get over how bad some of the sanctimonious stuff is - "The Great Big Green Pleasure Machine", that Silent Night/Holy Night + evening news thing, pretty much all the hymns, "The Dangling Conversation"... ugh, so frustrating.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 12 June 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

Dud. Paul Simon gradually started to purge his penchant for bad poetry when he went solo.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 12 June 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

Classic. And 59th Street Bridge Song is great.

Steve Schneeberg (Steve Goldberg), Monday, 12 June 2006 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

None more classic.

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

Dud.

But Graceland is really good.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 02:28 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

god, I hadn't heard "Mrs. Robinson" in ages. So good.

Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 19 November 2007 08:23 (eighteen years ago)

spent many a car journey in my childhood listening to S&G so i have a nostalgic bias. But their best work still holds up very well in my opinion - so definite CLASSIC!

sam500, Monday, 19 November 2007 08:34 (eighteen years ago)

simon: classic
garfunkel: dud

abanana, Monday, 19 November 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

super mega classic.

wanko ergo sum, Monday, 19 November 2007 14:14 (eighteen years ago)

I command everybody to listen to the Aretha Franklin version of Bridge Over Troubled Water right now this minute, and never listen to the original again.

ecuador_with_a_c, Monday, 19 November 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

FUCK U IF YOU DON'T THINK CLASSIC

I'm into SB (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 January 2010 13:21 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

lye la lye
*PUNCH*
lye la lye lye (*PUNCH*) lye lye lye
lye la lye
*PUNCH*
lye la lye lye (*PUNCH*) la la lye lye lye

Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Saturday, 26 May 2012 20:17 (fourteen years ago)

it looks like a knitting pattern written out like that

Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Saturday, 26 May 2012 20:17 (fourteen years ago)

Bookends is classic.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 26 May 2012 21:56 (fourteen years ago)

Funny story about how that *PUNCH* was recorded

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 May 2012 22:02 (fourteen years ago)

Which has already been posted here Studio Stories although not the part about the security guard.

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 May 2012 22:09 (fourteen years ago)

I refuse to believe it is anything but the sound of a boxer punching someone.

Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Sunday, 27 May 2012 01:48 (fourteen years ago)

preferring paul simon solo to S&G seems completely insane to me, sort've on the level of preferring mccartney solo to the beatles -- i mean, mccartney solo is often pretty great, but c'mon!

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 28 May 2012 23:59 (fourteen years ago)

How I woul;d rank these
1. beatles
2. paul mccartney solo
3. s&g
4. the song where a rabbit dies in Watreship Down
5. paul simon solo

Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 00:01 (fourteen years ago)

6. *PUNCH*

Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 00:01 (fourteen years ago)

4. the song where a rabbit dies in Watreship Down

Isn't that the only solo Garfunkel song anyone likes?

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 00:03 (fourteen years ago)

cool cool watre

buzza, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 00:05 (fourteen years ago)

Do you remember the scene in "Jack Nicholson is OCD GRouch" when he has made all these mix CDs to impress Helen Hunt, and when he notices Helen Hunt does not like his OCD mix CDs, it is playing an Art Garfunkel cover of a boring standard?

Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 00:06 (fourteen years ago)

Should have gone with the dying rabbit!

Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 00:06 (fourteen years ago)

hey abbott SPOILER ALERT much??

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 00:12 (fourteen years ago)

j/k i have heard enough about 'watership down' that i assume it just consists of rabbits exploding and nothing else

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 00:13 (fourteen years ago)

preferring paul simon solo to S&G seems completely insane to me, sort've on the level of preferring mccartney solo to the beatles -- i mean, mccartney solo is often pretty great, but c'mon!

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, May 28, 2012 11:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I tend to listen to Paul McCartney solo (or John Lennon or George Harrison solo, even) more than The Beatles, these days. But that's because I've listened to all of those Beatles songs hundreds upon thousands of times and I'm quite bored of them, whereas I haven't quite exhausted 30+ albums of solo material yet.

Anyway: S&G? Classic, without a doubt.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 00:39 (fourteen years ago)

j/k i have heard enough about 'watership down' that i assume it just consists of rabbits exploding and nothing else

In addition to rabbit angst, rabbit gore, rabbit eschatology, and rabbit language, there is also a corvid with a comedy Eastern European accent

Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 00:53 (fourteen years ago)

In rabbit eschatology, Art Garfunkel figures as Frithrah, the black sun who singes the world with an Eb5 falsetto note

Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 00:56 (fourteen years ago)

preferring paul simon solo to S&G seems completely insane to me, sort've on the level of preferring mccartney solo to the beatles -- i mean, mccartney solo is often pretty great, but c'mon!

this itself is an insane point! It's easy for me to hear that Paul Simon wrote better songs solo.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 00:58 (fourteen years ago)

whereas as much as I like a lot of solo Macca it quite often wasn't the case.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 00:59 (fourteen years ago)

yeah it's not a good analogy

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 01:06 (fourteen years ago)

it's a fine analogy, it's just that Paul McCartney sucks and Paul Simon doesn't

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 22:18 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

In the clearing stands a boxer and a fighter by his trade
and he carries the reminders of every glove that laid him down
or cut him 'til he cried out in his anger and his shame
I am leaving, I am leaving
but the fighter still remains.

Somebody posted these lyrics to facebook, and I didn't know what they were and immediately thought they were the perfect example of bathos. Just felt vindicated when I realized they were Simon & Garfunkel.

PJ. Turquoise dealer. Chatroulette addict. Andersonville. (Hurting 2), Monday, 29 July 2013 13:41 (twelve years ago)

but I agree with above, Paul Simon solo is better.

PJ. Turquoise dealer. Chatroulette addict. Andersonville. (Hurting 2), Monday, 29 July 2013 13:41 (twelve years ago)

I wrote up a quick thought about the worst Simon & Garfunkel tune today, the abominable and unreleased "Cuba Si, Nixon No"

http://heystacks.tumblr.com/post/56781841001/simon-garfunkel-cuba-si-nixon-no-back-to

EZ Snappin, Monday, 29 July 2013 14:04 (twelve years ago)

I actually kind of like it, but I'm dumb.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 July 2013 14:10 (twelve years ago)

It's basically the antithesis of why I like Simon & Garfunkel, but even a second rate Chuck Berry shuffle with third rate Phil Ochs lyrics on top has certain charms.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 29 July 2013 14:15 (twelve years ago)

Garfunkel was definitely otm. What about the worst Simon & Garfunkel tune that was actually released, though? Not including the Tom & Jerry stuff they did before Simon & Garfunkel, of course.

I wanna live like C'MOWN! people (Turrican), Monday, 29 July 2013 18:44 (twelve years ago)

If you take out their covers I'm not sure. They did some bad covers, especially some of the ones that surfaced as bonus cuts on the early records.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 29 July 2013 18:47 (twelve years ago)


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