Spoon, "Gimme Fiction"

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That's not a rumored cover, it's from the Matador site!

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 17 February 2005 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Is this the same album that's been appearing on "upcoming releases" lists under another title for about a year and a half?

(And what was that abandoned title, anyway? I forget...)

― MV, Thursday, 17 February 2005 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Album cover looks like a lead photo for a feature in Vogue or something. Sounds like no drop in quality from comments here.

― PiersT, Thursday, 17 February 2005 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

"romeo's apprentice" was one of the titles. i believe "the beast and dragon are adored" was another.

romeo's apprentice is funny because:

spoon's booking agent is jim romeo at ground control. jim romeo has a nephew i went to high school with. [apparently jim is from my hometown as well.] his nephew is his assistant, er, apprentice at GCT. hence, this is as close as metuchen nj will ever get to be referenced in a song/title/etc.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

so -- what does everything think the single off this thing will be?

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 18 February 2005 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"Turn My Camera On" if they want to be interesting, "Sister Jack" or "Monsieur Valentine" if they want to pander to their indie rock base.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 18 February 2005 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

if it were two minutes shorter "They Never Got You" would be the single -- it's got the hookiest beat. But a record label would never go with the best song, right? My guess is "Sister Jack." -- and I see exactly what Matthew is talking about in terms of Wilco. It sounds like it could've squeezed in between AM and Being There.

The album is very strong, but not amazing. I felt the same way about KtM. Girls Can Tell is my favorite of theirs.

― robot mark (robot mark), Saturday, 19 February 2005 04:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i just can't get into this album.
kill the moonlight was much better.

― Aerodynamic (Aerodynamic), Saturday, 19 February 2005 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

i think i just figured out why.
they sound like the stereophonics on this one.
anyone agree with me?.

― Aerodynamic (Aerodynamic), Saturday, 19 February 2005 05:00 (twenty-one years ago)

OK. i heard from someone over the weekend that the sequencing isnt correct on various websites. i was wondering this too, because "the beast & dragon, adored" is a weird opener.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, you think? I can't imagine sequencing "The Beast and Dragon Adored" on that album as anything other than the first song. That song screams "first song on the album" to me.

"They Never Got You" ought to be the final song, not "Merchants of Soul."

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

That said, "The Beast And Dragon Adored" should be the last song in their main set, and "My Mathematical Mind" should be the first song of every night on the tour. That would be ideal.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

lyrics don't resonate as strongly as they did on Girls Can Tell, but this album is their most groove-based to date and is probably my favorite. I think the single should the "I Took my camera off" one.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't have liner notes so hell if I know what they're actually called. I thought they were saying "Sister Jay" on that one song.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

they still sound like Billy Joel meets Wire.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

The leaked version tracklisting is

1) The Beast & Dragon, Adored
2) The Two Sides Of Monsieur Valentine
3) I Turn My Camera On
4) My Mathematical Mind
5) The Delicate Place
6) Sister Jack
7) I Summon You
8) The Infinite Pet
9) Was It You?
10) They Never Got You
11) Merchants Of Soul

The record has grown on me a lot. I'm really into "They Never Got You," which has snuck up on me from out of nowhere. I still think "Sister Jack" is boring, but I'm fond of everything else. I like it more than Kill The Moonlight, but not as much as Girls Can Tell.

Wow, you are so incredibly OTM about them sounding like Billy Joel meets Wire. That's perfect!

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I prefer Johnny Fever's cover to the real one.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

now the spoonies can rank their albums from most favorite to least! wee!

Gimme Fiction
Girls Can Tell
Telephono
Series Of Sneaks
Kill The Moonlight

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Girls Can Tell > Gimme Fiction > Kill The Moonlight >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A Series Of Sneaks > Telephono

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

"beast & dragon" sounds like a total closing track to me. those opening piano just sounds like its summing up the action of the record, even the lyrics reference the other songs.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

That makes sense. It would be really awkward if it wasn't the first or last song in the sequence. I think it seems more like an opener to me because of the first few seconds, and how it builds up to that chorus - the way it is recorded and performend, it feels more like a beginning to me. If it's not the first song, I would hope that "My Mathematical Mind" is.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

my mathematical mind: you are 100% OTM, matt.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the real cover~ Neatly references Little Red Riding Hood (Gimme Fiction, eh? Eh?), as for the font, it seems classic, if just a little of step, which is how I think of Spoon, kinda classic songwriting elements, but just a little off-kilter, weird noises, structures and such.

Thumbs Up~

― Yoshinorimike (Yoshinorimike), Friday, 25 February 2005 08:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Avec un peu de recul, this album has definitely grown on me now that I listen to it for the first time in a week. I love "The Beast and The Dragon, Adored" as the opener, as it sets the tone for the rest of the album. There are no *peaks* per se, which is always hard to deal with on first listens, but I really like the prevailing mood of this album. I still think that "The Infinite Pet" is a relative clunker though.

― alex in montreal, Friday, 25 February 2005 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't get the Telephono hate AT ALL - that album has been a touring van staple for us for years

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 25 February 2005 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Sister Jack should be a hit

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 25 February 2005 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

for all those that don't think that "beast" should not be the opener:

when he says "UH HUH, ALRIGHT" if feels like the album is starting!

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 25 February 2005 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)

The official Spoon site says that the running order that has leaked is the real one.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 25 February 2005 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay for that. I think it's perfect.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 25 February 2005 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

when he says "UH HUH, ALRIGHT" if feels like the album is starting!

the same thing happens on the first constantines record. or is it "we're rolling"? eh, i cant remember.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 25 February 2005 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

absolutely love this record. much better than Kill The Moonlight, IMO.

― teekay, Friday, 25 February 2005 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree. I like it. Did anyone else notice maybe a 'speeding up' of Britt's voice on the first track, though, or is it just my copy? sounds kinda weird...

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 25 February 2005 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah i noticed that too. the change in pitch from the first to second track is ... noticable. at first i didn't think it was him, and then track two came in and i was like oh yeah, there's Britt.

― teekay, Friday, 25 February 2005 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

There are no *peaks* per se

OTM, which makes it a first for Spoon. but it maintains a fantastic level of quality throughout that makes the record itself a peak. i think it's a step forward.

― Lee (fsharp), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

sister jack is a peak.

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

They Never Got You pretty much hits it out of the park for me.

― erv (Abe Froman), Saturday, 26 February 2005 03:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I would definitely say that this is a record with peaks - "My Mathematical Mind," "Beast And Dragon Adored" and "They Never Got You" are clearly the tall trees in this little forrest.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 26 February 2005 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

au contraire, mon frere!

― miccio (miccio), Saturday, 26 February 2005 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

au contraire, indeed!

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 26 February 2005 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

FUCKING. BRILLIANT.
"The Two Sides Of Monsieur Valentine" is unfortunately hitting way too close to home for me right now, but like a car crash I am drawn to it. A car crash with piano

― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Saturday, 19 March 2005 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd argue that this record peaks early - i have such a hard time getting into "i turn my camera on" after the first two songs.

― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 19 March 2005 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Really? 'Cause that's a great song- it's just different, that's all. I can see where it would appear to peak early, though- that's prob'ly my favorite song on the album right now

― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Saturday, 19 March 2005 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Monsieur Valentine = dead ringer for early Auteurs. Cello riffs and sparse piano / guitar stuff. Spoon escape being awful as a result because the guy's voice is better than Luke Haines. Or maybe it's just that an American accent sounds more exotic.

― alext (alext), Sunday, 20 March 2005 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

So that cover is straight Andres Serrano, right.

― Zed Szetlian (Finn MacCool), Monday, 21 March 2005 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh man I just listened to this for the first time today, and I'm waaay disappointed.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 21 March 2005 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)

ps that cover is straight-up Irving Penn and it RULES

― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Thursday, 24 March 2005 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

jaymc, I felt the same way! It has grown on me like goose barnacles! SPOOON!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 24 March 2005 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

finally listened, not thrilled. Heavy on the classic-rock tributes a la Elvis Costello of recent years (though to be sure it's more consisitently appealing). May be a grower... I thought the last couple songs were pretty strong. New order of Spoon release goodness:

Kill the Moonlight
Soft Effects
Series of Sneaks
Gimme Fiction
Girls Can Tell
Love Ways

(still haven't heard Telephono)

― These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Spoon to Tour North America in June

Chris Rediske reports:
So before you get all uppity about it, let us just say: We know we just reported Spoon tour dates last Friday. But here's the thing-- those shows, aside from one SXSW date (which already happened) and the Coachella date in April, are all taking place in Europe. Where you, most likely, are not. But you know Spoon loves the native North American-dweller just as much as the next deified indie rock band, which is why they're planning on spending their summer with you and you and you.

Yes, it's true-- Spoon will be marching quickly through the U.S. and Canada for the better part of June in support of their upcoming fifth full-length Gimme Fiction, hitting both coasts before ending up in their hometown of Austin. The Clientele will be along for the ride, and because we're cool like that, we've even reprinted the European dates from last week. Turn your camera on:

04-06 Dublin, Ireland - Olympia *
04-08 London, England - Brixton Academy *
04-11 Hamburg, Germany - Grosse Freiheit *
04-12 Koln, Germany - E-Werk *
04-13 Berlin, Germany - Columbiahalle *
04-15 Treviso, Italy - New Age *
04-16 Firenze, Italy - Sasch Hall *
04-17 Modena, Italy - Vox *
04-19 Bordeaux, France - Le Krakatoa *
04-20 Nantes, France - Halle de la Trocardiere *
04-21 Paris, France - Le Zenith *
04-24 Barcelona, Spain - Razzmatazz *
04-25 Madrid, Spain - La Riviera *
04-30 Indio, CA - Coachella Valley Music & Arts Festival
06-01 Atlanta, GA - Variety Playhouse #
06-02 Carrboro, NC - Cat's Cradle #
06-03 Washington, DC - 9:30 Club #
06-04 Philadelphia, PA - Theatre of Living Arts #
06-05 Toronto, Ontario - Lee's Palace #
06-06 Northampton, MA - Pearl Street #
06-07 Boston, MA - Paradise Rock Club #
06-08 New York, NY - Webster Hall #
06-09 New York, NY - Webster Hall #
06-10 Cleveland, OH - Beachland Ballroom #
06-11 Chicago, IL - Vic Theatre #
06-12 Minneapolis, MN - First Avenue #
06-13 Lawrence, KS - Granada #
06-14 Denver, CO - Bluebird Theater #
06-16 Portland, OR - Crystal Ballroom #
06-17 Vancouver, British Columbia #
06-18 Seattle, WA - Showbox #
06-20 San Francisco, CA - TBA #
06-21 Los Angeles, CA - TBA #
06-22 Tempe, AZ - TBA #
06-24 Dallas, TX - TBA #
06-25 Austin, TX - TBA #

― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, im pretty psyched about this. i think im even going to get tickets to shows in other cities!

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

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