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otm alex! i found that too, the album's a carousel but there's only two people on it, you and some kid. but the ride's over too quickly it seems, and then you realise the kids is the younger you. this is all complete nonsense but there you go (i am not drunk )...

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 14 August 2003 23:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, too intense and rich on first listen to get very far into it but it's obviously a classy bit of work.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 15 August 2003 06:53 (twenty-two years ago)

twee, grower? hmmm...it is perfect right from the very first note. i suppose it is twee if you mean what i think you mean, pretty and melodic. why does every broadcast review have to have the word lullabye in it? is there a memo? also got the new lexaunculpt, they complement each other nicely.

― keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 16 August 2003 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

'Before We Begin' is pretty darn twee which bugs me cos I didn't seem to really care or notice that much until only now. good job its not scarf weather yet and won't be for some time

― stevem (blueski), Saturday, 16 August 2003 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)

If you're using twee as a metaphor for lovely, then Before We Begin is very much there.

Colour Me In, though, does actually sound like it's been written for the soundtrack of Playschool. Which is great.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 16 August 2003 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry for using 'lullaby' (& for spelling it incorrectly) - it seemed somehow appropriate for a song about going to bed/sleep.

They are a great band though: on their Peel Session last night they finished with a song ('60/40') that is better than several on the album & they didn't even include it on it! The band build & build, going into accelerating orbit whilst Trish stays cool & calm on the same level all the way through. Magic. If you missed it I am afraid you will have to listen all the way through to nearly the end of the programme to hear it.

― Mooro (Mooro), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

The singer's voice is hopelessly amateur and so is this album.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)

amateur like a fox!

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)

mary has been talking to gareth (sigh)

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't! (Not about Broadcast anyway.)

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

i think Trish has as much as admitted in interviews that she's not the most powerful or versatile of vocalists - but still pretty sweet. but as far as the production and musicianship and songcraft go - amateurish?!?! absolute insanity...there IS a rougher and sketchier aspect to the production on 'haha sound' compared to the previous albums however - perhaps they were caught between two stools to an extent regarding this 'songs vs sounds' battle that's been touched on upthread. i'm listening to it loads but can't really develop proper criticisms except for aforementioned and retreading somewhat (Come On Let's Go > Before We Begin except the latter is now so just more relevant tho i think it has quite gorgeous timeless aspects)

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Even the album title is silly!

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

oh you

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

amateur like sarah cracknell! (this is not a value judgement.)

― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Even the album title is silly!

No silly album titles for Mary! Hey wait, what's this copy of Your Arsenal doing in your collection? (But I tease Mary. :-))

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Mary puts the ease in tease

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:14 (twenty-two years ago)

What's wrong with *Your Arsenal*? As for amateur female singers, if they are not Japanese, I have no use for them.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

but she's not amateur

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)

that's a bit problematic, innit

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)

i mean it sounds like something momus would say

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:21 (twenty-two years ago)

i think (and hope) you're referring to mary's post

Mary's jones for Yoko Ono now public (assuming it already wasn't)

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

momus is surely an amateur

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

but he's not female and japanese?

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:25 (twenty-two years ago)

thank god...he'd be even more in love with himself than he is now

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:26 (twenty-two years ago)

"Hitchcock once said of Charles Laughton dismissively that he was 'an amateur.' And when that got back to Laughton, Laughton just shrugged and said, 'Well. It means lover. I love my work.'"

― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Yoko Ono.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:50 (twenty-two years ago)

good solid article here

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)

old broadcast

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 23:05 (twenty-two years ago)

trish keenan is one of my favourite female vocalists

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 21 August 2003 00:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Even her name is silly.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 21 August 2003 00:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Mary I kiss you

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Thursday, 21 August 2003 00:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't believe Hitchcock said that about Charles Laughton.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 21 August 2003 02:31 (twenty-two years ago)

stevem is right. the more i listen to this album the more it sounds like treading water.

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 21 August 2003 02:36 (twenty-two years ago)

old broadcast

thanks v much steve!

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 21 August 2003 06:56 (twenty-two years ago)

it's so impeccable: impeccable rhythms, lyrics, influences, production, arrangements, artwork, label, photos, reviews. But listening, you have the sense that it wasn't quite natural, that they've acheived this very laboriously, you can almost hear the painful effort they labour under not to break into a velvet underground riff or just do a song in 4/4. it seems a lot of work for something that's, well.... a bit antiseptic.

― pulpo, Thursday, 21 August 2003 07:10 (twenty-two years ago)

That's the second time we've seen Mary criticize a great album title in as many weeks! What does SHE want!?

― marianna, Thursday, 21 August 2003 09:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Renee Zellweger - now THAT's a silly name

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 21 August 2003 09:36 (twenty-two years ago)

No argument there;)

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 21 August 2003 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Picked this up, it's better than the last album but still not as good as the first eps (on work and nonwork). They are still, to me, Pram for Poseurs, but they're getting better. Now where is the new Stereolab album?

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 21 August 2003 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I have to go back and listen to The Noise Made By People again, but it seems to me that Haha Sound is a lot more noisy-for-noise's-sake. It kinda reminds me of Yankee Hotel Foxtrot in terms of songwriting methodology: here's a nice simple vocal line and one, maybe two, melodic backing instruments, and then let's surround that with huge clouds of weird noise. Not that I don't enjoy noise for noise's sake, but I can't help feeling there's a bit of a disconnect between the noise and the melody.

― Nick Mirov (nick), Thursday, 21 August 2003 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)

i thought Pram were Pram for Poseurs?

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Thursday, 21 August 2003 21:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Pram are Stereolab for the Even More Pretentious

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 21 August 2003 21:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Pram are shit and i wish they'd split up

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 21 August 2003 22:25 (twenty-two years ago)

three months pass...

well i never got to see them in the States in the end (as went the dream) but i'll be at the Islington Academy tonight. am planning to record the gig too.

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not going anymore, decided a night off is of the essence. I'm sure it'll be fab, however.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 15:22 (twenty-two years ago)

is it sold out d'you know, steve?

― zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

don't know for sure but very maybe

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw them play at King tut's in glasgow on friday night and it was quite possibly the best gig I've seen all year. They are exceptionally powerful live. Whereas the tunes on the record sound quite pastoral in places, live they are full on building, driving throbbing monsters. CharlieNo4 do not pass this up!

stevem - would it be really cheeky of me to ask for a copy of the gig if you succeed in recording it? I'm obv. happy to pay costs.

― neil simpson (neil simpson), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

they are better live for sure, 'cept the vocals sometimes, poor Trish, but i wuv her

if i manage to record the gig ok it will be online. CD copy also possible (tho i am horribly slack with burning and posting discs as the 'post your 700mb cd of stuff you love' thread will testify)

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)

The Vocals were dead on on friday. the only flaw wa that they did one too many encores. CD would be preferable if it's not to much hassle as I won't have download access for another 2 weeks.

― neil simpson (neil simpson), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)

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