On to the other piece you slippedd in there about, "it's nice to have these in a final definitive CD version before that format starts to slip away," I think you just started a whole new thread there. There probably already is a thread or one million pieces of a thread spread across other threads, but do you think the record industry is heading towards abandoning the cd format? All downloads? No physical form for releases (cause you know majors aren't going to revert to vinyl)? And why did I read that the music industry actually had total higher sales last year that 2005 but since a much higher percent was from paid downloads, "they" still weren't happy because downloads aren't as profitable as physical album sales (or somesuch)? How could that be possible? Where are we headed Ned?
― matt2 (matt2), Friday, 19 January 2007 13:07 (seventeen years ago) link
The Data Migration Thread
So that might be where to turn for further discussion. Where we're headed? Honestly, no idea -- the way I see it, reissues like these are kinda the deluxe 'here's as good as it gets' variant on CDs as such. Depeche wisely are hedging their bets via the complete back catalog on iTunes, just to get that out of the way. And while I was snarking on this in its separate thread, there is actually a chunk of stuff on there which is as yet ungathered in physical form which I do want, so I'll post that here:
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Singles Box Set 7 - DMBX7click to show or hide track listingX01. - I Feel Loved (Single Version) (3.41)X02. - Dirt (Single Version) (5.00)X03. - I Feel Loved (Extended Instrumental) (8.28)X04. - I Feel Loved (Danny Tenaglia's Labor Of Love Edit) (7.59)X05. - I Feel Loved (Thomas Brinkmann Mix) (5.29)X06. - I Feel Loved (Chamber's Remix) (6.16)X07. - I Feel Loved (Danny Tenaglia's Labor Of Love Dub) (12.07)X08. - I Feel Loved (Umek Mix) (4.58)X09. - Freelove (Flood Mix) (4.03)X10. - Zenstation (6.26)X11. - Zenstation (Atom's Stereonerd Remix) (5.36)X12. - Freelove (Bertrand Burgalat Version) (5.30)X13. - Freelove (Schlammpeitziger "Little Rocking Suction Pump Version") (6.53)X14. - Freelove (DJ Muggs Remix) (4.24)X15. - Freelove (Console Remix) (4.44)X16. - Breathe (Live) (5.36)X17. - The Dead Of Night (Live) (5.11)X18. - Goodnight Lovers (3.50)X19. - When The Body Speaks (Acoustic Version) (6.02)X20. - The Dead Of Night (Electronicat Remix) (7.38)X21. - Goodnight Lovers (Isan Falling Leaf Mix) (5.53)X22. - Enjoy The Silence (Reinterpreted by Mike Shinoda) (3.33)X23. - Halo (Goldfrapp Remix) (4.24)X24. - Enjoy The Silence (Timo Maas Extended Remix) (8.45)X25. - Enjoy The Silence (Ewan Pearson Remix (Radio Edit)) (3.34)X26. - Something To Do (Black Strobe Remix) (7.15)X27. - Enjoy The Silence (Richard X Extended Mix) (8.25)X28. - Enjoy The Silence (Ewan Pearson Extended Remix) (8.39)X29. - World In My Eyes (Cicada Remix) (6.19)X30. - Mercy In You (The BRAT Mix) (7.04)X31. - Photographic (Rex The Dog Dubb Mix) (6.23)X32. - Clean (Colder Version) (7.12)X33. - Little 15 (Ulrich Schnauss Remix) (4.58)X34. - Precious (4.10)X35. - Precious (Sasha's Spooky Mix) (Single Edit) (5.46)X36. - Precious (Sasha's Gargantuan Vocal Mix) (Full Length) (9.46)X37. - Precious (Misc Full Vocal Mix) (5.43)X38. - Free (5.12)X39. - Precious (Motor Remix) (6.37)X40. - Precious (Michael Mayer Ambient Mix) (3.39)X41. - Precious (Sasha's Spooky Mix (Full Length)) (10.36)X42. - Precious (Michael Mayer Balearic Mix) (7.20)X43. - Precious (Misc Crunch Mix) (6.55)X44. - A Pain That I'm Used To (4.13)X45. - Newborn (5.34)X46. - A Pain That I'm Used To (Jacques Lu Cont Remix) (7.55)X47. - A Pain That I'm Used To (Jacques Lu Cont Dub) (8.02)X48. - A Pain That I'm Used To (Goldfrapp Remix) (4.43)X49. - A Pain That I'm Used To (Bitstream Spansule Mix) (7.26)X50. - A Pain That I'm Used To (Telex Remix) (3.28)X51. - Newborn (Foster Remix By Kettel) (5.29)X52. - A Pain That I'm Used To (Bitstream Threshold Mix) (6.10)
Singles Box Set 8 - DMBX8click to show or hide track listingY01. - Suffer Well (3.52)Y02. - Better Days (2.28)Y03. - Suffer Well (Tiga Remix) (6.30)Y04. - Suffer Well (Narcotic Thrust Vocal Dub) (6.44)Y05. - Suffer Well (Alter Ego Remix) (6.09)Y06. - Suffer Well (M83 Remix) (4.33)Y07. - Suffer Well (Metope Vocal Remix) (6.29)Y08. - Suffer Well (Metope Remix) (6.53)Y09. - Suffer Well (Alter Ego Dub) (8.49)Y10. - Better Days (Basteroid 'Dance Is Gone' Vocal Mix) (7.12)Y11. - The Darkest Star (Monolake Remix) (5.43)Y12. - Suffer Well (Tiga Dub) (5.32)Y13. - The Darkest Star (Holden Remix) (7.48)Y14. - The Darkest Star (Holden Dub) (7.59)Y15. - John The Revelator (Single Version) (3.19)Y16. - Lilian (Single Version) (3.35)Y17. - John The Revelator (Dave Is In The Disco Tiefshwarz Remix) (7.54)Y18. - John The Revelator (Murk Mode Remix) (7.16)Y19. - John The Revelator (UNKLE Re Construction) (5.02)Y20. - John The Revelator (Boosta Club Remix) (4.50)Y21. - John The Revelator (Tiefschwarz Dub) (8.13)Y22. - Nothing's Impossible (Bare) (4.05)Y23. - Lilian (Chab Vocal Remix) (9.07)Y24. - John The Revelator (UNKLE Dub) (5.49)Y25. - Lilian (Robag Wruhme Slomoschen Kikker) (3.46)Y26. - Lilian (Chab Dub) (7.12)Y27. - John The Revelator (Murk Mode Dub) (8.36)Y28. - Martyr (Single Version) (3.21)Y29. - Martyr (Booka Shade Full Vocal Mix Edit) (6.22)Y30. - Martyr (Paul Van Dyk Remix Edit) (7.18)Y31. - Martyr (Alex Smoke Gravel Mix) (6.40)Y32. - Never Let Me Down Again (Digitalism Remix) (4.38Y33. - Martyr (Dreher & S.M. Art B.N. Reload Remix (5.19Y34. - Martyr (Booka Shade Travel Mix) (6.20)Y35. - Martyr (Booka Shade Dub Mix) (8.17)Y36. - Personal Jesus (Boys Noize Rework) (6.53Y37. - Everything Counts (Oliver Huntemann & Stephan Bodzin Dub) (6.53)Y38. - People Are People (Underground Resistance Remix) (7.22)
Digital Only Remixesclick to show or hide track listingZ01. - Enjoy The Silence (Richard X Mix) (3.32)Z02. - Something To Do (Black Strobe Alternative Mix) (8.27)Z03. - Photographic (Rex The Dog Faithful Mix) (4.42)Z04. - Enjoy The Silence (Timo Maas Instrumental) (8.44)Z05. - Enjoy The Silence (Ewan Pearson Extended Instrumental) (8.36)Z06. - Precious (Calderone & Quayle Damaged Club Mix) (12.09)Z07. - A Pain That I'm Used To (Telex Club Mix) (5.53)Z08. - A Pain That I'm Used To (Telex Remix 2) (3.29)Z09. - A Pain That I'm Used To (Radio Version) (3.27)Z10. - Suffer Well (M83 Instrumental) (4.34)Z11. - John The Revelator (Bill Hamel's Audio Magnetics Club Remix) (7.49)Z12. - John The Revelator (Bill Hamel's Audio Magnetics Dub) (7.49)Z13. - John The Revelator (Bill Hamel's Audio Magnetics Edit) (4.43)Z14. - John The Revelator (Boosta Edit) (3.58)Z15. - John The Revelator (James T. Cotton Dub) (6.04)Z16. - John The Revelator (Murk Miami Remix) (9.20)Z17. - John The Revelator (Tiefschwarz Edit) (3.57)Z18. - John The Revelator (UNKLE Edit) (3.19)Z19. - John The Revelator (UNKLE Instrumental) (5.03)
Previously Unreleased Rehearsal Recordings and Rare Acoustic Performancesclick to show or hide track listing[01. - John The Revelator (New York Rehearsal) (3.40)[02. - Walking In My Shoes (New York Rehearsal) (6.11)[03. - Home (New York Rehearsal) (5.31)[04. - The Sinner In Me (New York Rehearsal) (5.01)[05. - Suffer Well (New York Rehearsal) (3.36)[06. - I Feel You (New York Rehearsal) (7.04)[07. - Goodnight Lovers (New York Rehearsal) (4.02)[08. - Clean (Bare) (3.44)[09. - Surrender (Bare) (4.04)[10. - Waiting For The Night (Bare) (4.22)[11. - Nothing's Impossible (Bare) (4.05)
Rare Early Live Performancesclick to show or hide track listing1. - My Secret Garden (Live in Hammersmith) (7.28)2. - See You (Live In Hammersmith) (4.10)3. - Satellite (Live In Hammersmith) (4.28)4. - Tora! Tora! Tora! (Live In Hammersmith) (4.03)5. - New Life (Live In Hammersmith) (4.12)6. - Boys Say Go! (Live In Hammersmith) (2.36)7. - Nothing To Fear (Live In Hammersmith) (4.28)8. - The Meaning of Love (Live In Hammersmith) (3.17)9. - Just Can't Get Enough (Live in Hammersmith) (5.36)\10. - A Photograph of You (Live In Hammersmith) (3.22)\11. - Shout (Live In Hammersmith) (4.49)\12. - Photographic (Live In Hammersmith) (3.48)\13. - Somebody (Live in Liverpool) (4.27)\14. - Two Minute Warning (Live In Liverpool) (4.36)\15. - Told You So (Live In Liverpool) (4.56)\16. - Ice Machine (Live In Liverpool) (3.45)\17. - Everything Counts (Live In Liverpool) (5.45)\18. - Master And Servant (Live In Basel) (5.40)\19. - People Are People (Live In Basel) (4.23)\20. - If You Want (Live in Basel) (5.15)\21. - Shame (Live in Basel) (4.11)\22. - Blasphemous Rumours (Live In Basel) (5.30)
Rare, Deleted & Promo Only Remixesclick to show or hide track listing]01. - People Are People (ON-Usound Remix) (7.32)]02. - Are People People? (4.28)]03. - Master And Servant (Black And Blue Mix) (8.04)]04. - (Set Me Free) Remotivate Me (US 12" Mix) (8.01)]05. - Flexible (Pre-Deportation Mix) (4.42)]06. - It's Called A Heart (Slow Mix) (4.49)]07. - It's Called A Heart (Emotion Mix) (6.51)]08. - It's Called A Heart (Emotion Dub) (5.31)]09. - But Not Tonight (Margouleff US 12" Mix) (5.14)]10. - But Not Tonight (Margouleff Dance Mix) (6.07)]11. - A Question Of Lust (Flood Remix) (5.10)]12. - Route 66/Behind the Wheel (Mega Single Mix) (4.21)]13. - Route 66/Behind the Wheel (Megamix) (7.51)]14. - Route 66/Behind the Wheel (Megadub) (6.16)]15. - Little 15 (Bogus Brothers Mix) (6.10)]16. - Personal Jesus (Kazan Cathedral Mix) (4.17)]17. - World In My Eyes (Daniel Miller Mix) (4.39)]18. - Walking In My Shoes (Random Carpet Mix (Full Length)) (8.36)]19. - Slowblow (Mad Professor Mix) (5.24)]20. - Rush (Black Sun Remix) (6.02)]21. - It's No Good (Club 69 Future Mix) (8.39)]22. - Dream On (Morel's Pink Noise Club Mix) (7.44)]23. - Dream On (Pink Noise Dub) (7.02)]24. - Dream On (The BRAT Mix) (8.27)]25. - Dream On (Morel's Pink Is Waiting Mix) (4.58)]26. - I Feel Loved (Danny Tenaglia's Labor Of Love Mix) (14.13)]27. - I Feel Loved (Danny Tenagalia's Labor Of Love Instrumental) (13.44)]28. - Freelove (Deep Dish Freedom Remix) (11.46)]29. - Freelove (Deep Dish Freedom Dub) (11.17)]30. - Freelove (Dave Bascombe Mix) (4.06)]31. - Freelove (Powder Productions Mix) (8.09)]32. - Freelove (Josh Wink Dub) (8.51)]33. - Nothing (Headcleanr Rock Mix) (3.31)]34. - Lie To Me ('The Pleasure Of Her Private Shame' Remix By LFO) (6.35)]35. - Precious (DJ Dan's 4am Mix) (9.54)]36. - Precious (DJ Dan's 6am Mix) (9.52)]37. - Martyr (Paul Van Dyk Radio Mix) (3.38)]38. - Martyr (Paul Van Dyk Vonyc Lounge Mix) (7.04)]39. - Martyr (Paul Van Dyk Dub Mix) (10.19)]40. - Martyr (Paul Van Dyk Remix) (10.19)]41. - Everything Counts (Troy Pierce Shadows Remix) (5.59)
Now personally I'll wait on singles sets 7 and 8 in actual form -- no matter what I do with my CD collection over the years, some stuff I'll keep the way it is and Depeche will be one of those acts. But the rest of this I'll snag as I can if, as I presume, they're not going to release it in any other format any time soon.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link
This = awesome, btw.
― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link
Actually there is some word about that -- apparently you're only supposed to be able to buy the whole set and not individual songs or sets, which is annoying. (Even more annoying is that this is Mute's policy, not Apple's.) This is however apparently still being talked about behind the scenes.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link
I want to hear this.
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro, Monday, 2 April 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― stirmonster, Monday, 2 April 2007 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro, Monday, 2 April 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link
Ultra and Exciter finally out and got 'em the other day. And with that final step, I was able to do something which I had hoped would be the case -- get all the reissues for free thanks to dumping promo discs at Amoeba. A more than fair exchange.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 14:59 (sixteen years ago) link
STILL WORKING MY WAY THROUGH THE DIGITAL BOX SET!!!
― Tantrum The Cat, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 17:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Nothing wrong with that.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh, doubtless. It's just a LOT of music to chew through.
― Tantrum The Cat, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 19:01 (sixteen years ago) link
I have yet to invest in "Exciter". Completely pointless as a remaster (after all, what exactly is there to be done with a 2002 recording?), but I guess I will buy it for the documentary and the new surround mixes.
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link
these dvds that come with the reissues are just fantastic aren't they? the early days studio stuff is adorable! i like how they give Daniel Miller and the other key label/production/tour crew bigwigs their due as opposed to the usual round of celebs banging on about what the record means to them and suchlike. some day all reissues would be made this way. a minor gripe is the lack of demos and stuff like you get with The Cure but you can't have everything.
― piscesx, Sunday, 16 January 2011 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link
this is as good a place as any to talk about the new remix box set
M83 are terribad remixers here btw
― anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
ha so no one besides me got this I guess
― DJP, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
Even I didn't. At least, not yet.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
tbh it was worth it just to get "Happiest Girl (The Pulsating Orbital Vocal Mix)" on CD (the version on "World In My Eyes" was an instrumental)
― DJP, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 19:18 (twelve years ago) link
it's all on Spotify by the way.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link
that would be helpful to me if Spotify was available in the US
― DJP, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
also trying to figure out why I never heard the Trentemoller Club Remix of "Wrong" before picking this up
― DJP, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
Huh. I got it but apparently I haven't listened to it yet. In the queue!
― Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
you know what is an underrated album, is Exciter
― The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 12 October 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link
slowly but surely i am getting the basic single cd remastered editions.today i found remastered edition of 'violater' for a coin in a charity shop.not so sure i need 'ultra' to be replaced as i think the original sounds perfectly fine, but should the chance arise then of course i will succumb.the only other remastered edition i really need of the cds i already have is 'black celebration', however, the edition i have has extra tracks on it (breathing in fumes, but not tonight(ext), black day).such a shame they did not add extras to the remasters.that said, i kind of like the fact they stuck to the original albums.i mean my first exposure to MFTM was on cassette, which had a ton of extras, and what i would give to have that edition available on remastered cd now.
― mark e, Thursday, 7 September 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link
black celebration dvd is a thing of beauty and a joy forever; the docu is *an hour* long and features among other treats; The Cure and the the Mode hiding in a van during a riot.
― piscesx, Thursday, 7 September 2017 22:34 (six years ago) link
ultra came out during a period when CDs sounded pretty good, i think. pre-loudness wars, post-"oops got rid of the hi hat". like those great sounding byrds reissues that came around 97/98, i kind of remember those being the first 60s rock reissues that sounded really great and were inexpensive + easy to get. maybe i'm wrong/too young, tho
― brimstead, Friday, 8 September 2017 00:26 (six years ago) link
The original CD issue of Music for the Masses had bonus tracks too, if I recall ('Agent Orange', 'To Have and To Hold (Spanish Taster)', 'Never Let Me Down (Aggro Mix)', a remix of 'Pleasure, Little Treasure' etc.) - I think it was a bit of a ploy by Mute to get people to buy the CD version... same with Erasure's The Innocents which had a couple of bonus tracks on both the cassette and CD versions ('When I Needed You (Melancholy Mix)' and their version of 'River Deep, Mountain High') ...
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 9 September 2017 11:04 (six years ago) link
ultra came out during a period when CDs sounded pretty good, i think. pre-loudness wars, post-"oops got rid of the hi hat"
yeah otm. I mean, I figure it's partially based on what age I was at the time (imagine it sounds dated to a lot of people younger than me), but I love a lot of the way late 90's stuff was produced, before all the squashing. really crisp and clear. Ultra is one of the best-produced albums ever imo
― Vinnie, Saturday, 9 September 2017 13:09 (six years ago) link
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pSozvePvdek
― No angel came (Ross), Friday, 20 July 2018 20:01 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2G7YY8Zr88
― StanM, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:36 (two years ago) link
Start the tape!
Love the modernized trailer.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 16:49 (two years ago) link
I've been watching the various documentaries that came out with the 2006 reissues and occasionally Fletch comes across as the most colossal POS, I don't know much about the inner dynamics of the band, does he have that reputation?
― Maresn3st, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 17:23 (two years ago) link
I remember hearing that what eventually drove Alan Wilder out of the band was his indignation that Fletch took the same share of the band's profits, while making no musical contribution whatsoever
― Vast Halo, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 19:04 (two years ago) link
Definitely part of it. Fletch seems to mostly function as their internal BS detector when it comes to whether the songs work, as I recall right. Combine that with the fact that he was the de facto manager for almost two decades until Kessler finally took the reins and he's part of the story of the band as unit if not necessarily as creative force.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 19:47 (two years ago) link
Yeah, I think he's kind of an important neutral component of the band dynamic.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 19:57 (two years ago) link
My Depeche Mode fan friend used as shorthand for Wilder and Fletcher "the one who does everything" and "the one who does nothing".
internal BS detector
That's what Billy Corgan said about D'Arcy.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 20:00 (two years ago) link
Lol, clearly even when she was in the band she was only modestly effective. At least Fletch has kept DM from ever embarrassing themselves, imo, but that could be as simple as Gore and Gahan lacking the sheer relentless ego of Corgan.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 20:26 (two years ago) link
They had a very unusual band dynamic until Wilder left. Very rare that the lead singer did not really contribute to songwriting, while the songwriter wrote the songs and then left the arrangements up to other people! They really needed each other, I guess even Fletch
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 23:21 (two years ago) link
That's what Billy Corgan said about D'Arcy.Bez’s role in the Happy Mondays and Black Grape was described as being “Shaun’s ears.”
― dark end of the st. maud (sic), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 00:28 (two years ago) link
Belatedly caught their HOF acceptance speech - highly charming stuff, especially when they pay tribute to their influences, hah:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7teQR3B-z8
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 19:11 (two years ago) link
"...the Eagles."
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 19:19 (two years ago) link
But yeah, while it's hard to say one should have COVID-era highlights, this was actually one of them.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 19:20 (two years ago) link
https://www.rhino.com/article/depeche-mode-detail-strangestrange-too-dvdblu-ray-collection
Previously available as individual titles in VHS and Laserdisc formats (now out-of-print and highly collectible), Strange (1988) and Strange Too (1990) are compilations of the provocative and visionary short films lensed by master photographer/director Anton Corbijn, in collaboration with Depeche Mode, to create a new visual iconography for the band and their music.
Available for the first time in DVD and Blu-ray configurations and as a single collection, Strange/Strange Too presents 11 Anton Corbijn/Depeche Mode music films, newly restored from original Super 8mm sources, alongside six previously unseen outtake "vignettes" from the DM archives.
― piscesx, Thursday, 26 October 2023 18:43 (six months ago) link