Greatest Rap Album of all Time?

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like i said in the company flow thread underground mcs are 90% shit, i usually only stoop to them for the beats. all of my dream pairings aren't timbaland and aceyalone but rather nas and madlib. well okay i want timbaland and aceyalone too.

ethan, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

ten months pass...
Dave q was correct: DEATH CERTIFICATE. There.

matt riedl (veal), Sunday, 13 October 2002 14:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

i still want nas and madlib!!

s trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 13 October 2002 21:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

i didnt notice any votes for 'Ill Communication' here yet...so HERE. IT. IS.

blueski, Sunday, 13 October 2002 22:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hey er I loved the hell out of that album in high school but the best parts that aren't "Rootdown" and "Get it Together" are either crazy punk rock shit or Meters-on-ether funk. And that mashed potatoes line.

What hasn't been mentioned yet? RUN-D.M.C.'s debut?

Nate Patrin, Monday, 14 October 2002 01:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Am I allowed Adam F? Hope so, cuz that's my choice...

Charlie (Charlie), Monday, 14 October 2002 01:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, and where are the women? Reckon I'd put Kaleidoscope right up there, with strong supporting arguments for A Salt With A Deadly Pepa and Fanmail/CrazySexyCool.

Charlie (Charlie), Monday, 14 October 2002 01:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

patrin surely you also check for the lukewarm funk of flute loop !! i actually still really like get it together :-/

s trife (simon_tr), Monday, 14 October 2002 02:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Coincidentally, a mailing list I'm on just featured a playlist of recent hip-hop classics. How's about these?

1. Mos Def - Black On Both Sides - Powerful stuff
2. Latyrx - The Album - Deep, dark disco rock and mind bending linguistics.
3. Black Eyed Peas - Behind The Front - Solid singalong stuff, a lot different to the Elephunky demos we've heard.
4. Roots Manuva - Brand New Second Hand - He's crazy but he's Hip Hop's knight in shining armour.
5. anything by DJ Vadim - as one reviewer recently wrote, he makes it blunted but not boring.

Agreed re: Latryx - classic in my head at least...

Charlie (Charlie), Monday, 14 October 2002 02:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

sigh

s trife (simon_tr), Monday, 14 October 2002 02:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

its so incredible how they rap at the same time on that one song...so groundbreaking..

boxcubed (boxcubed), Monday, 14 October 2002 03:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

tcha. fie on the lot of you. I still adore The Herbaliser's "8 Point Agenda", whatever brickbats you may throw...

Thoughts on Sage Francis please?

Charlie (Charlie), Monday, 14 October 2002 03:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

"get it together" is a good song. Q tip shows up all the beasties.

bnw (bnw), Monday, 14 October 2002 03:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

man i was so fucking twee on old-ilm.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 14 October 2002 03:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

jess how many times are you planning to drop the 'g code bomb'?? so far youve shocked by declaring it better than de la soul, anticon, funcrusher plus, blackalicious, deltron, the beastie boys, outkast, and tribe called quest, what sacred cow will fall next at your hand@!!

s trife (simon_tr), Monday, 14 October 2002 03:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://members.aol.com/dubplatestyle/mase.jpg

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 14 October 2002 04:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

it doesn't even have solja rags on it

boxcubed (boxcubed), Monday, 14 October 2002 04:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

Haha, my choices for best rap rekkid would induce "indie guilt"... K.M.D.'s "Mr Hood.", Leaders Of The New School's "A Future Without A Past", The Coup's "Kill My Landlord" or the UMC's "Fruits of Nature"

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 14 October 2002 04:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Vol 3 and Broken Silence are the only ones I listen to regularly anymore. Also Pain Is Love, but is that even really rap as we know it?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 14 October 2002 04:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

oh sterl where has your love for hiphops syd barrett gone...

s trife (simon_tr), Monday, 14 October 2002 04:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

and who would that be, simon?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 14 October 2002 15:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

Common's best album, and my favorite hip-hop record ever, came back when he was called Common Sense, and it's called Resurrection. It loses ILM points because it has no guest shots by dirty-southeners or rogue wu-tangsmen, but gains 'em back because "I Used to Love H.E.R." started a feud with Ice Cube that almost got some people shot and had to be mediated by that level-headed individual Louis Farrakhan.

Matt C., Monday, 14 October 2002 15:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

three months pass...
totally krossed out sounds great in a car too

minna (minna), Thursday, 23 January 2003 18:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ah! A thread resurrection! Threasurrection!

Phrenology has leapt onto my all-time greatest list, as has Blazing Arrow. You don't have to agree, this is MY list, cockgoblins! It'll include albums by Latyrx, Tribe, Fugees, B-Boys, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Wu-Tang, Outkast, NWA, Goodie Mob, Spearhead, Disposable Heroes of Hiphopracy, Blackalicious, The Roots, Kool Keith under various monikers, De La, Public Enemy, Pharcyde, Eric B. & Rakim, Del, El-P, Atmosphere, Dre, Dose One, and will NOT include any Jay-Z, P. Diddy, Nelly, MC Hammer, Vanilla Ice...and it's MY list, so SCREW YOU GUYS!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 23 January 2003 19:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

"cockgoblins"? My god!

Anyways. Listened to Ill Communication again recently and was startled by how much I liked it. There's so many great little touches the way everyone yawps "we din't start the FIRE!" on "Do It", the weird "underwater megaphone" pseudo-dub effect that shows up on a lot of the tracks (like "The Update"), the whole muddy "rare groove" feel to the majority of the album that feels even more distinct once the ultra-slick "Sabotage" bursts out the gates.

I keep hearing bits and pieces of the Slim Shady LP and I've come to the conclusion that I probably should have bought it when it came out instead of letting my skepticism get the better of me.

Supreme Clientele. DAMN. A lot of the beats on here were already familiar to me the first time I heard this ("Saturday Night"=Pharoahe Monch's "Mayor"; "Cherchez La Ghost" = BDP's "Jack of Spades"; "Buck 50" = er... the Chemical Brothers' "Playground for a Wedgeless Firm") but for once I don't care. I love that insane stream-of-consciousness style and "Nutmeg" is classic x1000.

Oh yeah: Beauty Party. MAJESTICONS TAKIN' OVER IN '03

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Thursday, 23 January 2003 19:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

at the moment for me it's something by mobb deep. probably Hell on Earth.

Honda (Honda), Thursday, 23 January 2003 19:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

krumble x - the time i ate your soup

zemko (bob), Thursday, 23 January 2003 19:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

ice cube - the predator?

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 23 January 2003 19:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

The marshall mathers LP is like the hip-hop equiv. of slint's EP.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 23 January 2003 20:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

That's funny, I don't remember Slint's EP being the one that received absurd critical praise while it affirmed that they had nothing worthwhile to say or anything worth listening to to contribute to the history of music.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 23 January 2003 20:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

By which I mean put it on in the dark and listen intently and it captivates and scares the shit out of you like some sort of emotional equiv. of scrubbing yrself with pumice.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 23 January 2003 20:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, right on. Sorry.

That album just really really bugs the crap out of me, makes my skin CRAWL...but I'm quite a weirdo; I put the Latyrx album on my greatest-of-all-time, what's that say about me?

;D

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 23 January 2003 20:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

no mention of Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded ? probably still my fave after all these years

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 23 January 2003 20:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm surprised Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... has only gotten like one mention so far. It's a record I can listen to in its entirety every time I put it on, never gets old... it sums up everything good about Wu-Tang Clan in one album. I love it.

Bobby D Gray (bedhead), Thursday, 23 January 2003 23:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

A second (or is that fourth?) vote for Midnight Marauders, which only gets better with age. It doesn't hit you like the best rap album of all time, but I'm starting to believe it might be (or at least tie with It Takes a Nation in my heart of hearts...).

Pete Scholtes, Friday, 24 January 2003 05:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

The Majesticon album is that good, too. It's so annoying that ethan's right all the time!

Dan I., Friday, 24 January 2003 07:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

greatest as in most exciting to listen to today:
ODB - N***a Please
Dre - Chronic 2001 (miles above the original chronic altho I guess it won't go down in history as such..)

Fabfunk (Fabfunk), Friday, 24 January 2003 09:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

greatest as in best ever:

illmatic
the infamous
ENTER THE WUTANG : 36 CHAMBERS (hello?)
ready to die
CAPITAL PUNISHMENT (hello?!?)
ironman
blueprint

gi66y, Monday, 27 January 2003 15:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

Eric B and Rakim - Paid In Full
EPMD - Strictly Business

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I do agree with the _Midnight Marauders_ talk, but it makes me sad that people don't agree that _The Low End Theory_ is just as good.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

I personally hold all Tribe albums (except that last one...blargh!) in the highest of esteem amongst all albums evah.

BTW, I think Run DMC's Raising Hell has been mentioned far too few times in this thread.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

The Low End Theory is grebt. Audio Two had a great debut.

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 27 January 2003 16:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

i really can't understand all this tribe luv

gi66y, Monday, 27 January 2003 17:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

'Fear of a Black Planet'. From the meagre number of rap albums I've heard, at least.

But 'Low End Theory' would make my top 5.

James Ball (James Ball), Monday, 27 January 2003 17:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

There's tons of Tribe luv because Q-Tip, Phife and Ali Shaheed Mohammed are geniuses.

_Fear Of A Black Planet_ is the best PE album, although _Nation of Millions..._ is very, very, very, very, very good (if only for "Night Of The Living Baseheads").

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 January 2003 17:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yo! Bum Rush the Show! was fucking brilliant too. My Uzi Weighs A Ton!

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 27 January 2003 17:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Low End is GRATE but CLASSIQUE? Like no way. Go for sth Kool Keith (Ultra Mag MCs) or Public Enemy

nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 27 January 2003 17:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

_Low End.._ is a stone classic. That album and _De La Soul Is Dead_ changed my life.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 January 2003 17:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dre - Chronic 2001 (miles above the original chronic altho I guess it won't go down in history as such..)

Why do you think so? I like 'em both about the same. Only thing is the first Chronic is easier to listen to since it has all its great tracks loaded up for the first half of the album, while 2001 has them scattered about. (more skipping around, see?) But it doesn't really matter since I just listen to a mix-cd of both of them anyway.

Capital Punishment is good, yes.

original bgm, Monday, 27 January 2003 18:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Eminem The Marshall Mathers LP
L'Trimm Drop That Bottom
The Beastie Boys License to Ill
Cypress Hill
The Real Roxanne

But rap/hip-hop is not an album genre, so this list is not representative of my taste in Roxannes.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 1 February 2003 21:00 (twenty-one years ago) link


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