Pazz and Jop.

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Not surprisingly, since the city is so moribund the only good rap is 40ish year (Griselda crew being younger as the exception) old practitioners of the lost art, but basically taking the Sean P (RIP Decepticon Sean)/MF Doom mode of doubling down on commerically unviable 90s styles, but pushing them even farther into dark back alleys, lost in multisyllabic rhyme scheme gun talk hall of mirrors, cooking down the most cryptic and morbid elements of The Infamous and Cuban Links into Spartan nearly drumless heartbeats (Ka and Roc Marci especially), scraping together enough dough through moderately attended club dates and 5k guest verses on songs by lyrical nobodies in the Midwest. If hip hop is dead, they are the Templar knights forced to guard the cup of Herc for all eternity

― Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown) Compelling description!! Almost makes me want to start reading comic books again and the movies made of them and catch up with this radically reactionary sound of de trop---hope to manage some of this last.

dow, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 04:11 (eight years ago)

or maybe just try the Dr. Yen Lo album or Honor Killed the Samurai; they're both great.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 05:27 (eight years ago)

yeah i'd start w/dr. yen lo or honor, also marcburg by roc marciano and sean p's jesus price superstar and conway the machine's reject 2

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 16:28 (eight years ago)

i guess marcburg is kind of a landmark album at this point, and sean price kind of pioneered the whole "brokest rapper you know" lane but he is [was :( ] def more gregarious and "fun" than the others

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 16:30 (eight years ago)

The Night's Gambit was also pretty great

Dan S, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:47 (eight years ago)

first time voter, anything i should keep in mind in my picks/points/comments? was thinking about writing a short little essay about what i feel ties all my choices together, but i also don't know how much people read those.

austinb, Sunday, 31 December 2017 02:46 (eight years ago)

I'd read it!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 31 December 2017 02:46 (eight years ago)

When I used to write squibs, I'd alternate one- and two-sentence zingers with paragraph-length observations.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 31 December 2017 02:47 (eight years ago)

Write whatever you want to write, austin, however you want to write it, then post it somewhere, on a blog or somewhere. That's really what year-end polls have been for me since the early '90s; an organizing reason/excuse to write about my favourite songs each year (more than ever the past three or four years, now that P&J basically stopped printing random comments).

clemenza, Sunday, 31 December 2017 02:51 (eight years ago)

alright, just went for it! https://medium.com/@abrown512/pazz-and-jop-2017-and-my-year-in-music-e07393ce889c

austinb, Monday, 1 January 2018 23:04 (eight years ago)

My login isn't working. I emailed them. Hope they fix it tomorrow... :(

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 02:55 (eight years ago)

(xpost) Good job. If they print your comments and not mine, though, I take it all back.

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 04:17 (eight years ago)

clemenza, I just sent you a Facebook friend request. Would like to see about fixing my P&J issues.

Thanks!

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 14:32 (eight years ago)

Didn't get it--in any event, I'm just a voter and don't have anything to do with the Voice or the poll. You're supposed to e-mail them directly, no? They must keep regular hours today. I didn't have any trouble with my own code.

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 14:37 (eight years ago)

Sorry, I thought you were more involved. Never mind.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 14:41 (eight years ago)

I'm about as less-involved as it gets.

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 14:43 (eight years ago)

I emailed them wrt my log-in issues just a few days ago and they had me straightened out in a matter of a few hours.

evol j, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 14:56 (eight years ago)

*fingers crossed*

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 15:00 (eight years ago)

error here, just emailed them

evol j - did they just say "try again" or did they tell you to do something different, like, idk, "type your number, don't copy/paste it" or something like that?

alpine static, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 15:01 (eight years ago)

they gave me a new ID number.

evol j, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 15:01 (eight years ago)

Now that I read this thread, I think they are sending out new ID numbers although I have an apostrophe in my name which often fouls up internet forms such as this.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 15:02 (eight years ago)

Yeah, a new ID did the trick. Go me.

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSjRCkTWkAI4bE0.jpg:large

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 17:07 (eight years ago)

my ID doesn't work either -- hopefully it isn't too late to get it fixed

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 20:16 (eight years ago)

i wrote them like 3 hours ago and got it fixed, you'll be fine

alpine static, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 20:20 (eight years ago)

yeah, they just emailed back

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 20:22 (eight years ago)

(six minutes ago)

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 20:22 (eight years ago)

Sorry, I thought you were more involved. Never mind.

you guys could still be friends tho

j., Tuesday, 2 January 2018 20:28 (eight years ago)

Well, my friend request was still there.

No pressure though.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 01:52 (eight years ago)

I emailed on Xmas evening, got a response the next morning.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 02:32 (eight years ago)

Anyone know when it's running? I threw out my email which might have had that information and I am too lazy to scroll up and see if someone mentioned it.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 13 January 2018 01:56 (eight years ago)

Film ballots were due last week, so I'm not really sure. I expected that poll's results this week.

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Saturday, 13 January 2018 02:04 (eight years ago)

I got an email about an unveiling event in New York this coming Thursday. Instead of canceling the poll they're going all out! Complimentary beverages will be served.

geoffreyess, Saturday, 13 January 2018 22:16 (eight years ago)

Took a quick look to see if the poll was up, and I was baffled by the current layout. I had to go through three screens to find a music piece. Unless I'm not navigating correctly, there doesn't seem to be a music section anymore. There doesn't seem to be sections of any kind anymore.

clemenza, Thursday, 18 January 2018 02:02 (eight years ago)

hover over "the culture" >> click on "music" in the subnav >> music stories

alpine static, Thursday, 18 January 2018 02:16 (eight years ago)

granted, they should really move that subnav w/ "film tv music theater" up above the three features articles. that would make a lot more sense (to me, who is not a website designer)

alpine static, Thursday, 18 January 2018 02:18 (eight years ago)

*featured not features

alpine static, Thursday, 18 January 2018 02:18 (eight years ago)

lmao

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 19 January 2018 02:54 (eight years ago)

as a former social media editor, just posting the number ones on twitter is such a boring move. thread the respective top tens, or release some saucy ballots ahead of time even.

austinb, Friday, 19 January 2018 02:56 (eight years ago)

olol

dyl, Friday, 19 January 2018 03:00 (eight years ago)

blahdak yellow

maura, Friday, 19 January 2018 03:05 (eight years ago)

yello > bodak yellow

maura, Friday, 19 January 2018 03:06 (eight years ago)

boDAMN yellow

austinb, Friday, 19 January 2018 03:07 (eight years ago)

as a former social media editor, just posting the number ones on twitter is such a boring move. thread the respective top tens, or release some saucy ballots ahead of time even.

― austinb, Thursday, January 18, 2018 8:56 PM (eighteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

2.5 hours ago, and these tweets only have like 5 retweets and 5 likes. I don't know if that says something about the Village Voice these days, or the state of music criticism, or what. Also, the #sonosstorenyc hashtag is super lame.

Beret McKesson (jaymc), Friday, 19 January 2018 03:18 (eight years ago)

I went to the thing because it's about two blocks from my office and why not, and the vibe was super weird, starting with the whole thing taking place beneath a large alexa ad

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Friday, 19 January 2018 03:37 (eight years ago)

what was "the thing"

Beret McKesson (jaymc), Friday, 19 January 2018 03:49 (eight years ago)

there was a “launch event” panel discussion

maura, Friday, 19 January 2018 03:51 (eight years ago)

they got christgau, surprisingly(?)

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Friday, 19 January 2018 03:54 (eight years ago)

Not with a Bangs, but with a Twitter.

clemenza, Friday, 19 January 2018 05:05 (eight years ago)

Hi Katherine, Maura, did the thingers happen to mention when the results will be posted? Found Music Event etc. listings just now pretty easily, but didn't see anything about issue (or whatever we should call it now) date---seems like if it's worth a launch event, worth mentioning on site---a video coming at me or whatever.

dow, Friday, 19 January 2018 16:36 (eight years ago)

a facebook post from another attendee indicated that the results would be up early next week.

maura, Friday, 19 January 2018 21:08 (eight years ago)


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