2017 end of the year lists

idk if the "pivot to video" now includes lists, but it seems that Pitchfork's Top 10 songs are contained in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR7P_nS9twI

10 Charli XCX "Boys"
9 Kelela "Frontline"
8 Future "Mask Off"
7 King Krule "Dum Surfer"
6 Frank Ocean "Chanel"
5 Lil Uzi Vert "XO Tour Llif3"
4 SZA "Love Galore feat. Travis Scott"
3 Lorde "Green Light"
2 Kendrick Lamar "D.N.A."
1 Cardi B "Bodak Yellow"

i forgot about 'boys'

https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/the-100-best-songs-of-2017/ full list is up

usually there's at least something interesting i'd overlooked to find from the p4k list but i've already heard nearly everything from it this year, oh well. it hasn't really been a great year for singles looking at most of these lists

i still don't understand all the love for bodak yellow, it's fine but doesn't really stand out as 'song of the year' material to me at all

The b in bodak stands for boring.

it's a good song

From the 4 hip hop songs in the top 10, ‘bodak yellow’ is the one that doesn’t leave me any strong impression. Would’ve preferred Kendrick, Future or Lil Uzi to get the #1.

That said, King Krule in the top 10 is more wtf for me. I still don’t get the appeal.

Also I love Charli XCX but Boys must be one of her weakest and less subtle singles.

Boys is great, way better than most of her post-True Romance singles, like Break the Rules and After the Afterparty for example are pretty dire

PopMatters albums

now I understand why these lists start coming out in Nov. When you're the first list out with Lorde and Kendrick in the top spots, cool. When you're the 50th...

pitchfork established the narrative, the crushing dull inevitability of their lists is their grand validation. here's yr canon, nerds! eat it up!

feels like that used to be true, but now it kinda feels like they what for twitter/other media to establish the zeitgeist then they just confirm it.

it feels like they're listing the things people are supposed to like, rather than making a list out of the things their contributors are passionate about.

exactly, that too. also lol @ broken social scene getting in there amongst all the hip choonz - 2004 pfork may be dead but they still look out for their own

anyone know of a consolidated google doc tracking the major EOY lists? I know someone did this the last couple of years.

try this? ----> http://www.albumoftheyear.org/list/summary/2017/

helpful, thanks. if anyone knows the google doc owner and can share, i'd appreciate it.

i guess i ultimately liked the vince staples (and i think bagbak was a top ten single) but it's weird seeing an album released that early in the year over and over again as the token also-ran to Kendrick when there were so many other great hip hop albums; migos at least really needs to be in there somewhere.

If that aggregate list is to be believed, there were only five hip hop albums in the consensus top fifty... jay-z, tyler and RTJ being the others. So in a year when hip hop was the dominant sales force, it only amounts to 1/10th of the dominant critical consensus?

rob mitchum has a spreadsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-uY5_BeeKH_e2-XROri85qpV8s_5hMEEoFoxigci61I/htmlview

big fish theory which i regularly accidentally refer to as big bang theory was one of the more disappointing things i heard this year, staples replacing any blush of personality he had with production pyrotechnics. its placement on these lists feels extremely arbitrary to me

Richard Dawson is 1st on Quietus list, 2nd on Wire's and now another top ten position on Cracked's, damn, who would have thunk.

― damosuzuki, Tuesday, December 5, 2017 1:45 PM (six

Still trying to figure this one out

TY stritram!

kinda surprised to not see OMB Peezy on any track lists

Feel like there is disappointingly little room for the weird, niche or genre music in any of these lists, apart from the ones that contain nothing else.

So in a year when hip hop was the dominant sales force, it only amounts to 1/10th of the dominant critical consensus?

Not to disagree with the underlying point but critics lists full of best-sellers from any genre wouldn't really be that useful.

"sales"

big fish theory which i regularly accidentally refer to as big bang theory was one of the more disappointing things i heard this year, staples replacing any blush of personality he had with production pyrotechnics. its placement on these lists feels extremely arbitrary to me

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, December 11, 2017 11:56 AM (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, big step down from Summertime '06

So in a year when hip hop was the dominant sales force, it only amounts to 1/10th of the dominant critical consensus?

Critics actually being critical?

kinda surprised to not see OMB Peezy on any track lists

on The Fader's

substitute "spins" for "sales" if u wanna, that's what everybody's pretending to do anyway

As someone who has Guppy as their AOTY, p4k putting that corny ass DJ Khaled/Santana mashup right above Charly Bliss in the bottom of the list felt like their way of specifically trolling me

"Wild Thoughts" rules fuiud

yeah, no

big fish theory which i regularly accidentally refer to as big bang theory was one of the more disappointing things i heard this year, staples replacing any blush of personality he had with production pyrotechnics. its placement on these lists feels extremely arbitrary to me

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, December 11, 2017 11:56 AM (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, big step down from Summertime '06

― voodoo chili, Monday, December 11, 2017 11:17 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

agreed, and summertime 06 was my runaway #1 in 2015. favorite thing on bft is the kendrick verse on yeah right.

The b in bodak stands for boring.

― how's life, Monday, December 11, 2017 1:15 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's a good song

― flopson, Monday, December 11, 2017 1:51 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Is it tho 🤔

nah

and it’s certainly more of a reflection of the mindset that turned trump into a viable candidate than an insurgency against the status quo. worthingtons law people

She's literally also a reality TV star too!

when you lose the poptimists

https://daily.bandcamp.com/2017/12/11/the-best-bandcamp-albums-of-2017-100-81/

itt: people surprised anew that consensus lists reflect consensus and not individual taste

Melkbelly at 91 on bandcamp list. Too low but I'll take it. (Maybe if I listen to enough of the rest of the list I will find it's not too low.)

can u believe that poptimism is more nuanced than people paint it 🙄

and it’s certainly more of a reflection of the mindset that turned trump into a viable candidate than an insurgency against the status quo. worthingtons law people

― maura, Monday, December 11, 2017 1:36 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you're going to have to unpack this for me, how do you get from point A Trump to point B Bodak Yellow?

One who has more money is of greater value than one who has less?

People saw them on tv and decided they would be cool with nukes

Trumps rap debut Bodak Orange is all set to drop in Jan 2018 iirc

this isn't even a particularly poptimist year for lists. even discounting the usual caveat that actual poptimism would involve liking Ed Sheeran

would it?

maybe it's time the American poptimists of ILX gave Rag'n'Bone Man a chance