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Oh my god

flappy bird, Monday, 4 December 2017 04:18 (six years ago) link

now if i can just find covers of "yellow submarine", "and your bird can sing", and "doctor robert" i'll have covers of everything on the revolver lp

"Yellow Submarine" is tough/can't come up with anything good by head but I like these covers of the other two:

Susanna Hoffs & Matthew Sweet - "And Your Bird Can Sing"
J Mascis - "Doctor Robert"

willem, Monday, 4 December 2017 05:54 (six years ago) link

That Nilsson track is quite something!

willem, Monday, 4 December 2017 05:55 (six years ago) link

FOUND THE DELETE THE BEATLES MIX!: CDR700GO!: Delete the Beatles

Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 4 December 2017 06:18 (six years ago) link

nilsson rules

In a slipshod style (Ross), Monday, 4 December 2017 06:18 (six years ago) link

Nowhere Man - Vikki Carr
Me and My Monkey - Larry Harlow
Can't Buy Me Love - Ella Fitzgerald
The Word - Jackie and Roy
Drive My Car - Cristina
Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight - Elis Regina
Honey Pie - Barbra Streisand
Happiness is a Warm Gun - The Breeders
Ticket to Ride - Cathy Berberian

Josefa, Monday, 4 December 2017 08:01 (six years ago) link

I've Just Seen A Face is like their best pre-Rubber Soul deep cut

― FREEZE! FYI! (dog latin), Sunday, December 3, 2017 11:51 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

strongly disagree

― sleeve, Sunday, December 3, 2017 11:57 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yup, I strongly disagree too - it's not even the best deep cut on Help! ...

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 08:20 (six years ago) link

That Nilsson track is quite something!

― willem, Monday, December 4, 2017 5:55 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Otm! Beck made a whole career based on just this one song.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 4 December 2017 08:37 (six years ago) link

Yup, I strongly disagree too - it's not even the best deep cut on Help! ...

What are the deep cuts tracks ? Those that weren't singles ?
In that case, I'd go with "YGTHYLA" or "It's Only Love" (I never understood why Lennon dislikes this song so much. I find it great, particularly his vocals !).
"IJSAF" is also great though. Fantastic guitar parts(especially the intro).

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 4 December 2017 10:31 (six years ago) link

IJSAF - love the busy, giddy, slightly claustro enjambment of the verse juxtaposed with the simplicity and release of the chorus. Not a huge early-Beatles fan, but that song is fantastic

FREEZE! FYI! (dog latin), Monday, 4 December 2017 10:48 (six years ago) link

What are the deep cuts tracks ? Those that weren't singles ?

Yeah, but also the tracks that weren't singles that also didn't become a standard at some point (e.g. 'Yesterday', 'With a Little Help From My Friends' etc.)

So, in the case of Help!, stuff like 'The Night Before', 'Another Girl', 'You're Going to Lose That Girl', even 'You've Got to Hide Your Love Away' ...

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 11:14 (six years ago) link

I'll never understand why people who praise stuff like the lacklustre The Beatles or dig the Let It Be stuff often can't get on board with the 1963-1965 stuff... there's far more energy and excitement to the early stuff, and a lot of great Lennon/McCartney originals.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 11:19 (six years ago) link

I've told the story before on here, but once at work I found myself stuck wokring in a room where the first two Beatles albums were blasted out one after the other and it was absolute fucking torture, I hate that stuff.

Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2017 11:23 (six years ago) link

... well, not all of it, it was the cumulative effect of all that head bobbing knee bending Scouse cheeriness.

Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2017 11:25 (six years ago) link

To explain, I never grew up in a household with any Beatles music, I heard the later albums through flatmates, friends or whatever but I'd never heard the early albums because it never struck me as being music I'd be interested in - turns out I was right.

Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2017 11:29 (six years ago) link

I like a lot of "early" Beatles stuff but none of my favourite Beatles' track is from that period I think. Overall, I prefer the songwriting and production of the post "rocknroll" years.
That said, I totally agree that the songs, excitement, energy of these days are great and fresher than the latter ones. Also, ironically, since I much prefer his songs, that's the most dominant Lennon period, when he was more productive than McCartney (with the peak of Hard Day's Night).

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 4 December 2017 11:42 (six years ago) link

The entirety of A Hard Day's Night, but I think it's generally considered to be the best album they made pre-Rubber Soul...

...but...

'I Saw Her Standing There', 'Please Please Me, 'It Won't Be Long', 'All My Loving', 'Don't Bother Me', 'I Wanna Be Your Man', 'No Reply', 'I'm a Loser', 'I'll Follow the Sun', 'Eight Days a Week', 'Every Little Thing', 'From Me To You', 'Thank You Girl', 'She Loves You', 'I'll Get You', 'I Want to Hold Your Hand', 'This Boy', 'I Call Your Name', 'I Feel Fine', 'She's a Woman', 'I'm Down', 'Help!', 'The Night Before', 'You've Got to Hide Your Love Away', 'You're Going to Lose That Girl', 'Another Girl', 'Ticket to Ride', 'It's Only Love' and 'Yesterday' ... all killer.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 11:59 (six years ago) link

And if you want to throw covers into the mix, then: 'Anna (Go to Him)', 'Baby It's You', 'Twist and Shout', 'Till There Was You', 'You Really Got a Hold On Me' and 'Long Tall Sally' all rule.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 12:03 (six years ago) link

Turrican, please stop calling it 'The Beatles'

FREEZE! FYI! (dog latin), Monday, 4 December 2017 12:10 (six years ago) link

"Eight Days a Week"
Lennon's vocals on that one are so good (especially the "oh ohohohh" before one of the choruses) !
Sometimes I wish they had recorded a slower version of "Help!", without the rocknroll arrangements, like Lennon wanted it to be, as he expressed later on....

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 4 December 2017 12:12 (six years ago) link

I Def don't see 'You've Got To Hide...' as a deep cut. Or anything that was on the red/blue albums

FREEZE! FYI! (dog latin), Monday, 4 December 2017 12:16 (six years ago) link

hum. yeah, the red/blue might be a good indicator of what's not deep cuts.

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 4 December 2017 12:17 (six years ago) link

xxxpost:

Yes, let's all stop calling albums by their actual titles.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 12:42 (six years ago) link

I always kinda liked this, noticeably beholden to Husker Dü mind you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxE_JtDGIOI

MaresNest, Monday, 4 December 2017 12:45 (six years ago) link

Everyone calls it the White Album. I'm sure even the fuckin' Beatles don't call it 'The Beatles'

FREEZE! FYI! (dog latin), Monday, 4 December 2017 13:11 (six years ago) link

It's like referring to Metallica's fifth album 'Metallica'. No one in the universe calls it that

FREEZE! FYI! (dog latin), Monday, 4 December 2017 13:12 (six years ago) link

I don't call it anything

Mark G, Monday, 4 December 2017 13:29 (six years ago) link

Calling it "The Beatles" is nice.

Mark G, Monday, 4 December 2017 13:31 (six years ago) link

Calling it either The Beatles or the white album is fine - one is its actual title and the other is an informal way of referring to it. But calling it The White Album with capitals makes no sense - like you don't call the VU & Nico album The Banana Album.

dorsalstop, Monday, 4 December 2017 14:03 (six years ago) link

well, unfortunately, nearly fifty years of usage and millions of people are against y'all on this. fans of weezer and metallica also. :-/

'cause there's always been an it i can't truss (Doctor Casino), Monday, 4 December 2017 14:07 (six years ago) link

also fwiw i get the sense from the way the band members refer to it this way, that they really saw it as having no title, to go with having no cover. that doesn't relate to the capitalization but insisting on "The Beatles" as a title seems quite odd. but it takes all kinds i guess.

'cause there's always been an it i can't truss (Doctor Casino), Monday, 4 December 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link

This is a new low

moyesery loves kompany (darraghmac), Monday, 4 December 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link

Calling it the White Album with capitals is totally fine, 99.999% of people know the album in question and can very possibly cope with the album titled in such an informal manner.

Jesus fucking Christ

Master of Treacle, Monday, 4 December 2017 14:12 (six years ago) link

having no title, to go with having no cover
Ah yes, fair enough. The white album is *untitled*, rather than titled The Beatles - the latter is a very record-shop-database-centric way of looking at it.

(What 99% of people can cope with is of course of no relevance whatsoever.)

dorsalstop, Monday, 4 December 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link

This is a new low

eheh. That said, it's for that kind of unexpected (or wtf) heated debates that ILX is classic !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 4 December 2017 14:19 (six years ago) link

The Beatles - Untitled#1

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 4 December 2017 14:20 (six years ago) link

Metallica has some great stuff on it, but I'd rather save my thoughts on Metallica for a Metallica thread.

The Beatles isn't untitled, it actually says both The Beatles on its cover and its spine. It's the actual title vs. the mythology.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 14:25 (six years ago) link

The Beatles also has a cover - if it had no cover, then that would have been the stupidest idea and would have led to a lot of the records being scratched in transit before they'd even reached the shops.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 14:27 (six years ago) link

fyi the spines of albums often identify the artists responsible for them, but i'm glad you brought this up as it is now clear at last that the title of this LP is Stereo SWBO 101. i'll kindly ask everyone itt to start using that - or are you all too bogged down in mythology? wake up, sheeple!

'cause there's always been an it i can't truss (Doctor Casino), Monday, 4 December 2017 14:29 (six years ago) link

You can call it that if you want, but you'd be wrong.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 14:36 (six years ago) link

Poll!

Frederik B, Monday, 4 December 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link

What's the real name of The White Album?

The Beatles
The White Album
Stereo SWBO 101

Frederik B, Monday, 4 December 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link

Anyway, to steer the conversation away once more from The Beatles' self-titled (and patchy) double album from 1968, and back to what we were originally talking about (how good the early Beatles were) ...

"Eight Days a Week"
Lennon's vocals on that one are so good (especially the "oh ohohohh" before one of the choruses) !
Sometimes I wish they had recorded a slower version of "Help!", without the rocknroll arrangements, like Lennon wanted it to be, as he expressed later on....

― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, December 4, 2017 12:12 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, agreed that the vocals on 'Eight Days a Week' ... I think 'Help!' would have worked well at a slower tempo too, but I'm glad they didn't record it that way. 'Please Please Me' was originally a lot slower, and while it would have worked well that way, I'm glad they ramped up the tempo... a huge part of the appeal of the early Beatles is the way they used to tear into the uptempo numbers with such enthusiasm - compare 'Please Please Me' to the laboured "fun" of 'Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da' and it really isn't a contest.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 14:46 (six years ago) link

I think we've stumbled on the real reason for the Manson Family killings.

Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2017 14:48 (six years ago) link

In fact, 'Please Please Me' is so good - Ringo's drumming, the harmonies, that harmonica line, the way the middle eight brings a whole new dimension to the song, the energy, the enthusiasm... it's hardly a surprise the band caught on with songs and performances like that. Let's not forget that this was the kind of stuff the band made their name with, and there's many good reasons for that.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link

(x-post)

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link

fred i think you're missing some variant capitalization possibilities in that list. but we should take this to one of the many Stereo SWBO 101 threads.

'cause there's always been an it i can't truss (Doctor Casino), Monday, 4 December 2017 14:50 (six years ago) link

if it had no cover, then that would have been the stupidest idea and would have led to a lot of the records being scratched in transit before they'd even reached the shops

https://www.popsike.com/pix/20090821/260465780537.jpg

Ward Fowler, Monday, 4 December 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link

I'll bet that sold about 10 copies to a closet full of people in New York.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link

Well obviously "Help!" is great as it is but I can't help thinking an alt. slowed down version would have been stronger and maybe less dated. It would have suited better Lennon's plaintive and raspy voice, imo.
The actual version is a bit too fast and the arrangements too cheerful for the song.
That said the version I imagine would have been anachronistic at the time it was done.

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 4 December 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link


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