that's p much what i'm getting at.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 23 November 2017 09:33 (six years ago) link
they clearly stated that they thought the hierarchy reinforced through their lists was harmful because it reinforced certain power dynamics in the dance community xpost to D-40
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 23 November 2017 14:33 (six years ago) link
agreed that they're admitting discomfort with their readership, but the response to the decision in the comments is overwhelmingly positive. which is weird b/c the last time i remember reading comments on RA a few years ago they were mostly terrible
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 23 November 2017 14:36 (six years ago) link
yeah same, not familiar with the site at all these days really.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 23 November 2017 18:05 (six years ago) link
1) I've never heard of Dixon
2) deej that's just silly, there won't be a lack of headlining acts just because there no ranked poll
3) Ranked lists are the patriarchy
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 23 November 2017 22:34 (six years ago) link
Dixon was #1 on their “best dj” polled list from 2013-2016
― mh, Thursday, 23 November 2017 22:55 (six years ago) link
I’m pro ranked lists & anti the results, it’s the results that are patriarchal not the lists themselves
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 24 November 2017 00:12 (six years ago) link
I don't know, not to over-generalize, but I think of an obsession with ranking and scoring things as an extremely male trait.
Btw I've only started reading RA in the last year or two, but I get a lot out of it. The comments however are hilarious/terrible, of course. And people seem bent on interpreting the review scores as objective across the site (as in "you really think record A is better than record B, that has a lower score?!"), when it seems pretty clear that it's usually situated within the context of an artist's previous work, or the maybe the genre they're working in.
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 24 November 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link
flag on the play. essentialism. offense number 79. 15 yard penalty. automatic 1st down
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 24 November 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link
if only tim had done a poll
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Saturday, 25 November 2017 01:36 (six years ago) link
i'm fairly sure i don't like much of what dixon has been playing for the last 3/4 years, tho not paid much attention, most of that crew seem to have gravitated towards a sort of prog nouveau
equally i think it's good he became massively popular solely on the basis of djing with barely any production along the way - for a long time he was one of the best selectors and 100 times better than the producer-centric crap that passes for dance music or dj sets on this board.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Saturday, 25 November 2017 01:39 (six years ago) link
don't read much on the site but pod + https://www.residentadvisor.net/tracks are essential
i didn't realize their eoy lists were crowdsourced/reader polls; surprisingly good if that's true. but re these concerns they should just switch to editorial list and hire more non-whitemale writers
― flopson, Saturday, 25 November 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link
otm
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 25 November 2017 03:44 (six years ago) link
the top dj list is a complete ouroboros, much like a lot of dj lists. there’s no easy solution, but when high profile events feel they have to have top-ranked djs, and then the attendees are the same who vote in polls for top dj, just creates a death spiral. uncreative promoters who have large events and have money but no curation skills aren’t helping
― mh, Saturday, 25 November 2017 04:44 (six years ago) link
Not really sure who you mean by that last sentence but while he was an amazing DJ I'm not sure he'd have been able to build his rep in the same way if he wasn't so closely associated with Innervisions. Like he was a fantastic remixer (the Mark E mix in particular I still love), but it feels like he was able to come up at least partly off the back of Ame and Henrik Schwarz's production works, before completely eclipsing them as a DJ.
Dunno what he's playing now but if I had to guess he's moved towards a more Tale of Us-type festival friendly thing?
Can we have a Search & Destroy on the podcasts from this year? I think I listened to every single one up until about April or May and then tailed off. A lot of fairly nondescript grey warehouse techno in there.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 25 November 2017 11:59 (six years ago) link
still not the same, to me, as the usual route of becoming famous for a few productions and then becoming a hugely popular dj for being okay at it. he was doing it for a long time before the huge popularity too. he dj'ed his way to the top more than many of the rest of these lists.
as i say, don't care for him now but he's done enough good stuff to merit respect.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Saturday, 25 November 2017 12:28 (six years ago) link
Yeah fair enough, I just looked at their 2016 list and it's full of those sorts of names, unsurprised they canned the poll tbh. I guess production means a shortcut onto the festival circuit for a lot of these guys and that's how they end up there. The overlap between that poll and the group of DJs who seem to be on every other European festival bill is massive as well.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 25 November 2017 12:43 (six years ago) link
Can we have a Search & Destroy on the podcasts from this year?
I've not really connected with any of the podcasts in a long while, even the ones from DJ's I like (Saoirse, Del Garda). Whenever it does pop up that there's a new podcast it always seems to be someone called Blarg or Morlock playing DVS1 records. This is what happens when you let people have black and white photos for their profile
― saer, Saturday, 25 November 2017 12:44 (six years ago) link
thank u saer for giving me some possible dj aliases if I ever get a gig
― mh, Saturday, 25 November 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link
― mh, Saturday, 25 November 2017 15:55
Have a scan at the Brighton teamsheet today if you need any more
Dunk, Gross, Proepper, Knockaert and Bong
― saer, Saturday, 25 November 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link
I don't get into many of the podcasts either, the only ones I remember from this year are Egyptrixx and M.E.S.H. (both great). I really like their features and interviews though.
Some of the Exchange podcasts are worthwhile too.
― change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 25 November 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link
I listened to a bit of the one with Janina, but it as people talking and I started to feel tense so I turned it off again
― saer, Wednesday, 29 November 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link
I don't think this is an issue of RA's demographics so much as the demographics of readers of music sites in general. almost all readers' polls end up like this
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link
there's definitely something self-selecting about the people who love to rank things as opposed to people who just like to share impressions and talk about stuff they like
― mh, Wednesday, 29 November 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link
No headphone today but I see Etienne has done number 602. I liked his record on Undersound last year so hopefully this has some cheeky miscreants downing pints in deckchairs or failing that some records with moody dockers with dangerous dogs is also acceptable as long as they have a heart of gold and hats askew
― saer, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 11:44 (six years ago) link
https://www.residentadvisor.net/podcast-episode.aspx?id=610
― the late great, Monday, 5 February 2018 03:48 (six years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZcZwgsWsAAXb6b.jpg:large
― map, Friday, 30 March 2018 18:08 (six years ago) link
Tomorrows is very good - especially the second half, hats off!
― saer, Sunday, 8 April 2018 11:44 (six years ago) link
yes mate
https://www.residentadvisor.net/podcast-episode.aspx?id=619
― saer, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 01:23 (six years ago) link
wasn't sure what thread to put this in but the new mix from TRAXX is essential
https://www.residentadvisor.net/podcast-episode.aspx?id=627&comments=1
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 14:37 (six years ago) link
would you say it's an... essential mix?
― the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 20:52 (six years ago) link
yes i would
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:06 (six years ago) link
I'd second that
― mh, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 21:08 (six years ago) link
ok I'm 10 min in and it's just been lots of chopped up samples that feel kinda clunky, is it like this for 2 whole hours?
― the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 8 June 2018 14:52 (six years ago) link
you kids and your goddamn seamless mixes
― mh, Friday, 8 June 2018 15:02 (six years ago) link
nvm it got good
― the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 8 June 2018 15:35 (six years ago) link
the opening track ! one of the most extreme on-u sound productions.I have actually blown speakers with that track.
― mark e, Saturday, 9 June 2018 09:07 (six years ago) link
https://www.residentadvisor.net/podcast-episode.aspx?id=632
loving this from Raphael Top-Secret: nothing particularly innovative and for a "digger" I was familiar with more of the songs/artists than I would have expected, but it's a really nice vibe
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 10:01 (six years ago) link
Yup enjoying this. Want to like a lot of the RA poddies but most too clubby for an old bastard like me.
― millmeister, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 14:44 (six years ago) link
New John Gomez one feels akin to Raphael Top Secret in many ways - a "digger" putting something sunkissed together - but its got a much more obscure vibe and feels very global in its reach
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link
LIL
MOFO
BUSINESS
― the late great, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 03:53 (five years ago) link
^^^ this isn't a style I normally listen to but sweet jesus that mix is amazing
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 13:22 (five years ago) link
OBJEKT https://www.residentadvisor.net/podcast-episode.aspx?id=650
Can you tell us about the idea behind the mix? In my sets over the past year or two I've grown increasingly comfortable going into extended wormholes where I'll spend 30-40 minutes layering all kinds of broken, trippy, floaty, confounding, sometimes polyrhythmic tracks on top of one another—tracks that still have a danceable pulse but where the rhythms shift focus, and you sometimes you can't even tell where the "1" is at all. If I follow this thread to its most self-indulgent extremity I end up in my "no-kick rollers" folder, which contains what it says on the tin—propulsive club tracks with no kick drum—and I've had a lot of fun recently, when faced with an adventurous enough crowd, delving into this folder and trying to keep people dancing for as long as possible without playing any tracks with kick drums. It's not a new concept—techno producers have been making arpeggio tracks for decades and Barker made a particularly stunning EP earlier this year specifically consisting of tracks like this. But I've been collecting material in this vein for a few years now and have always wanted to make a full-length mix of it—and have only recently felt I might actually have enough tracks to make it work. Stringing tracks like this together in a musically coherent way is quite challenging, since without the kick drums you're often entirely reliant on melodic elements to keep the momentum going, which poses difficulties not just in maintaining a steady energy level but also making sure you can avoid horrendous key clashes and so on. It also really helps if you can mix tracks in on 3+ turntables to allow you to fill in the gaps left by the lack of kicks. So it took quite a lot of planning and quite a few takes to get it right. The result is, IMO, probably not something you'd wanna stick on over dinner—it's a more challenging listen and less obviously "party" than other mixes I've done, and it gets quite sparse at some points and intense at others. But it's definitely unlike any mix I've done before and I'm really happy with it as a piece of music and a proof of concept.
In my sets over the past year or two I've grown increasingly comfortable going into extended wormholes where I'll spend 30-40 minutes layering all kinds of broken, trippy, floaty, confounding, sometimes polyrhythmic tracks on top of one another—tracks that still have a danceable pulse but where the rhythms shift focus, and you sometimes you can't even tell where the "1" is at all.
If I follow this thread to its most self-indulgent extremity I end up in my "no-kick rollers" folder, which contains what it says on the tin—propulsive club tracks with no kick drum—and I've had a lot of fun recently, when faced with an adventurous enough crowd, delving into this folder and trying to keep people dancing for as long as possible without playing any tracks with kick drums.
It's not a new concept—techno producers have been making arpeggio tracks for decades and Barker made a particularly stunning EP earlier this year specifically consisting of tracks like this. But I've been collecting material in this vein for a few years now and have always wanted to make a full-length mix of it—and have only recently felt I might actually have enough tracks to make it work. Stringing tracks like this together in a musically coherent way is quite challenging, since without the kick drums you're often entirely reliant on melodic elements to keep the momentum going, which poses difficulties not just in maintaining a steady energy level but also making sure you can avoid horrendous key clashes and so on. It also really helps if you can mix tracks in on 3+ turntables to allow you to fill in the gaps left by the lack of kicks. So it took quite a lot of planning and quite a few takes to get it right.
The result is, IMO, probably not something you'd wanna stick on over dinner—it's a more challenging listen and less obviously "party" than other mixes I've done, and it gets quite sparse at some points and intense at others. But it's definitely unlike any mix I've done before and I'm really happy with it as a piece of music and a proof of concept.
― Sad Dad House (Thee Macallan 18 Year), Thursday, 15 November 2018 23:14 (five years ago) link
Love that mix
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 15 November 2018 23:18 (five years ago) link
Oh wow, I've kind of stopped checking for these but Objekt is phenomenal.
― Matt DC, Friday, 16 November 2018 12:36 (five years ago) link
It's a cracker, looking forward to the new album too
― paolo, Friday, 16 November 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link
been listening to that one today, some fine ear candy!
― calzino, Friday, 16 November 2018 15:24 (five years ago) link
https://www.residentadvisor.net/features/3386
so, they're killing the comment section. can't blame them, because to effectively have comments on a site you need: a.) a defined policy on what's allowed/disallowed and b.) consistent enforcement, meaning someone has to keep an eye on things and act in a way that's subject to review
(b) is really difficult, especially if you're lacking the resources for community management (or it's not your primary goal, since you're publishing reviews/editorial). but I cynically think that (a) comes into play because while they're 100% in the right to advance views from diverse voices and argue for inclusion, a lot of discussion that was well-meaning got nuked because no one has time to sort through all that nonsense
― mh, Thursday, 3 January 2019 15:22 (five years ago) link
99% of comments on any website are trash and I think part of the reason Pitchfork has continued to assert dominance in the online music review world is that it has never allowed comments. The RA comments were always particularly dispiriting, "keep identity politics out of dance music it has no place", "actually Ten Walls should be allowed to express an opinion", "who cares if Nina Kraviz can't DJ she is hot"
― boxedjoy, Thursday, 3 January 2019 19:51 (five years ago) link
yupthere were some good ones here and there, but the moderation was so scattershot that a couple stray misogynist comments meant the comments were turned off for the thread in the last few months imo they need to whack the fb comments on their posts too lol
― mh, Thursday, 3 January 2019 20:23 (five years ago) link