Albums you own or used to own from artists that turned out to be awful people.

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My laptop side bellend census isn't up to date, apologies for the oversight...

Doran, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:15 (eight years ago)

Nah, I totally get what Doran was saying. Like this is what has rendered R. Kelly totally unlistenable to me, when he's singing about all that freak sex stuff you now know exactly what sort of person he's doing it to. His music is inseparable from the person. There's a reason why Michael Jackson's "Childhood" creeped people out where his other music didn't. Gary Glitter wrote a sports anthem with no real lyrics and had virtually no hits otherwise. When I hear it I don't really think "Oh no, Gary Glitter..."

frogbs, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:21 (eight years ago)

Gary Glitter wrote a sports anthem with no real lyrics and had virtually no hits otherwise.

LOL Americans

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:23 (eight years ago)

https://genius.com/Gary-glitter-rock-and-roll-part-2-lyrics

this is killing me

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:23 (eight years ago)

Cageian.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:24 (eight years ago)

Yeah, what Tom D said - Glitter had several huge hits here, including the one where he repeatedly asked if you (the listener) wanted to be in his "gang" ...

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:26 (eight years ago)

Let's not forget the one where he asked if you wanted touch him. Where? There.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:27 (eight years ago)

yeesh

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:27 (eight years ago)

You should hear his albums.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:28 (eight years ago)

I'm gonna pass on that one

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:29 (eight years ago)

i only listen to the version by philadelphia industrial rock legends executive slacks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgTHmlVmP78

scott seward, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:29 (eight years ago)

as you Tom already said, the Glitter Band was way better

the intentional phallusy (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:30 (eight years ago)

re Gary Glitter - would suggest avoiding "Happy Birthday"

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:30 (eight years ago)

"I wouldn't buy any of Glitter's records new because of the financial implications but I'll still listen to them on YouTube, buy them from a second hand record shop or download them for free."

John Doran, honourary member of Gary Glitter's gang

JB, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:31 (eight years ago)

what the fuck is your problem you shit wannabe wight dorke

imago, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:32 (eight years ago)

don't feed the raccoon.

scott seward, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:34 (eight years ago)

hahaha that must be the quickest I've ever disregarded my own advice

imago, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:36 (eight years ago)

I actually don't own any Gary Glitter albums but, in theory I wouldn't have a problem in buying them second hand. I listened to Rock And Roll part one a load of times when I was reading Simon Reynolds' glam book and researching an interview with him. It's an astonishing record.

Doran, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:22 (eight years ago)

Wasn't the Glitter sound mainly down to Mike Leander anyway?

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:32 (eight years ago)

Yeah, sure absolutely. That's absolutely what my fascination is about.

Doran, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:35 (eight years ago)

I think Mike Leander played most of the instruments on those early Gary Glitter records too.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 21:29 (eight years ago)

glitter so lazy; probably also had other people molest children for him too

akm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:02 (eight years ago)

i used to really like rock'n'roll christmas when i was a kid

-_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:03 (eight years ago)

i like 'doctorin the tardis' more than Rock N Roll

akm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:06 (eight years ago)

Thought of another one which is not cool:

Wyclef Jean accused of stealing money from Haiti charity fund

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/wyclef-jean-faces-criminal-probe-over-haiti-charity-8209814.html?amp

http://www.factmag.com/2016/02/15/wyclef-jean-reddit-ama-haiti-yele/amp/

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 16 November 2017 00:41 (eight years ago)

i owned a gary glitter 10" once but i spilled liquor on it and threw it away

brimstead, Thursday, 16 November 2017 02:18 (eight years ago)

Most spirits have a pH around 7, close to water, and should pose no threat to Gary Glitter records

ur-oik (rip van wanko), Thursday, 16 November 2017 03:35 (eight years ago)

Those Gary Glitter glam singles sound incredible imo. An amped up metaller version of Lennon's Spector era records.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 November 2017 04:10 (eight years ago)

cardiacs, ugh

mookieproof, Thursday, 16 November 2017 04:20 (eight years ago)

lol

imago, Thursday, 16 November 2017 11:12 (eight years ago)

The thing about those early Gary Glitter singles is that they were as much of an influence on a certain generation of artists as David Bowie's glam stuff was. I'm thinking acts like the first incarnation of The Human League (who covered one of his songs in the early '80s) and Depeche Mode, amongst other new wave/synthpop/New Romantic acts.

I've seen recent interviews with Heaven 17's Glenn Gregory and Depeche Mode's Martin Gore where, when asked about their early influences, cite that early Gary Glitter stuff, but you can tell they're shocked and very much embarrassed by this - not because of anything to do with the music itself, but the actions of the person who fronted those records.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 16 November 2017 20:28 (eight years ago)

^^^Spot on. I think prior to H17, Gregory (and Ware) worked with Glitter on a track for B.E.F. They described him to me as "a lunatic"... just generally speaking, no hint of the utter wrongness.

Doran, Thursday, 16 November 2017 21:58 (eight years ago)

huh I hadn't made the connection to DM, HL and other NewRos, but you sure can hear his stuff in the Chinn/Chapman productions, the Runaways/Joan Jett, tons of poppier punk/metal stuff going into the 80s

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 November 2017 22:01 (eight years ago)

And beyond on other English bands like Earl Brutus and The Fall.

Doran, Thursday, 16 November 2017 22:12 (eight years ago)

Adam & the Ants.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 November 2017 22:13 (eight years ago)

Yeah, BEF put Gary in the studio with the Glitter Band, they had never recorded together.

Mark G, Friday, 17 November 2017 00:07 (eight years ago)

G&M's Russell Smith picking up the counterpoint:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/good-art-by-bad-people-why-it-shouldnt-be-thrown-away/article37006883/

doug watson, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:08 (eight years ago)

Yeah, Adam and the Ants too. Basically, if you got rid of all the music those early singles influenced, it'd leave a huge black hole in pop music.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 17 November 2017 15:13 (eight years ago)

lol, what did Adam and the Ants do? I have no knowledge of them.

how's life, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:19 (eight years ago)

ruined a picnic

President Keyes, Friday, 17 November 2017 15:23 (eight years ago)

Ruined Eve.

nickn, Friday, 17 November 2017 17:32 (eight years ago)

Explains the lack of pants

Evan, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:02 (eight years ago)

I couldn't disown The Smiths as they made some of the best pop music ever (cliched but true!) and Johnny Marr's contributions are generally my favourite aspect of the group's songs anyway. Different story with Morrissey's career but I don't think I'd even like it much if he hadn't made the racist comments he has.

R Kelly is a difficult one for me. Knowing just some of the details regarding his repugnant behaviour doesn't stop me enjoying some of the songs, albeit a little less predisposed towards them than beforehand. I suppose I definitely find it easier to disown bad behaviour if I haven't known the artist's songs for years before finding out about it.

Custard Cream, Friday, 17 November 2017 19:43 (eight years ago)

Adam and the Ants being another new wave act influenced by Gary Glitter, obviously.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 17 November 2017 19:54 (eight years ago)

*have known the artist's songs

Custard Cream, Friday, 17 November 2017 19:56 (eight years ago)

they held up a carriage at gunpoint iirc

President Keyes, Friday, 17 November 2017 19:58 (eight years ago)

don't drink don't smoke, what did they do?

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Saturday, 18 November 2017 13:22 (eight years ago)

subtle innuendo follows

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Saturday, 18 November 2017 13:22 (eight years ago)

must be something inside

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Saturday, 18 November 2017 13:22 (eight years ago)

not sure how awful but a buddy of mine witnessed steven tyler go over to a girl at a restaurant and sit down next to her, pretending to be upset that she'd snapped a pic of him, then he was getting in her personal space and squeezing her and kissing her on the cheeks and she eventually got up and left, visibly uncomfortable, without eating any of her food. i saw some photos he took of it, she was "laughing it off" in the way that many women have described their reactions to unwanted advances but he was really, really in her space in a bad way. and at first my friend thought he was a crazy random sexual offender and not a rock star, he recognized him after a couple minutes.

omar little, Saturday, 18 November 2017 20:13 (eight years ago)


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