great graphics Spottie! Surprised ODB was so low, he was my #1
― Neil S, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 07:30 (six years ago) link
amen. graphics more than worth the wait. so stoked for this rollout
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 08:20 (six years ago) link
great graphics idd and woohoo poll is on!
― niels, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 08:49 (six years ago) link
Lol @ ghostface eagle pic
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 15:58 (six years ago) link
Yeah the graphics are great, nice work. GZA seems low but otherwise no real surprises here. I voted RZA #1, kind of biased as I'd been re-reading the Wu-Tang Manual just before voting and was swayed by how much he'd put into creating the mythology as well as the sound and feel of the records.
― Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link
Thanks everyone. Album countdown coming up next. I'll be doing the top 18.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link
RZA - Bobby Digital in Stereohttps://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51JvJVMaBgL.jpg3 votes 9 points
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 16:32 (six years ago) link
thats #18 btw.
Def my least favorite first wave wu release. i had such high expectations for it.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link
#17 Ol' Dirty Bastard — Ni**a Pleasehttps://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_500/MI0001/765/MI0001765836.jpg4 votes 11 points
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link
hadnt listened to this in a long time and had a hard time getting through it. lots of vile stuff on there. production is all over the place.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link
#16 Ghostface Killah — Bulletproof Walletshttps://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61UJAJ%2Bu6hL.jpg 3 votes 13 points
Wallets is p slapdash, feels like a collection of outtakes, but there are some really good tracks on it
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link
yeah it ended up climbing my rankings a bit.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link
It's a lot of fun, but feels lightweight compared to a lot of other Ghost releases
― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 17:43 (six years ago) link
#15 Wu-Tang Clan — Iron Flaghttps://images.genius.com/aa7a18c2a99cfab6093f5c73cc358aab.500x500x1.png3 votes 17 points
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 18:04 (six years ago) link
Iron Flag has aged really well imo.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 18:05 (six years ago) link
their "pop" record, I guess, but I love it.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link
when i bought the cd i got the clean version on accident, so that's what i know, got all the little record scratches and sound fx memorized. was kinda weird hearing it with all the swears for the first time recently.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link
haha the first copy I got of 36 Chambers was also a clean version purchased by accident. Shame on a NUH!
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link
the beginning of Rules on my copy just starts with the horns straight to the drop, no rza intro. much better that way.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link
iron flag has definitely aged well!
― marcos, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link
btw sorry i couldn't get a vote in but i'm trying to pop in here a lil
― marcos, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 18:21 (six years ago) link
Surprised ODB was so low, he was my #1
yea he'd be higher up for me too
odb possibly has my favorite verse on any wu album "here i go / deep type flow..."
― marcos, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link
yeah his delivery is so great on that.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link
#14 Raekwon — Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... Pt. IIhttps://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61YJrYppPDL.jpg5 votes 19 points
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link
great album, much better as a whole than the sum of its parts
― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link
yeah this was better than it should have been for sure.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link
benefits from all the songs being fairly short imo, all killer no filler
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link
also avoided sounding pastiche.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link
#13 Gravediggaz — 6 Feet Deephttps://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8031/7989053788_207bab5851.jpg8 votes 23 points
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:15 (six years ago) link
never really liked this as much as I expected to, it's alternately too goofy and too gross
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link
production is A++ though
― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:30 (six years ago) link
never registered as gross to me. just straight up funny in the best way possible
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:34 (six years ago) link
#12 Method Man & Redman — Blackout!https://bonuscut.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/blackout.jpg5 votes 28 points
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:07 (six years ago) link
^^ banger after banger
― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link
yeah pretty much perfect album.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link
This album needs to be polled separately
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:59 (six years ago) link
might be sacrilege but it may be my favorite from both artists
pretty big point jump for the next one. the next six were all really tightly scored.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link
#11 Method Man — Ticalhttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ZeaUfyrLL.jpg10 votes 51 points
this album is a subwoofer murderer
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 21:18 (six years ago) link
Release Yo Delf has been a staple on my workout/pump-up playlists for like 20 years.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link
― Spottie, Wednesday, November 15, 2017 3:59 PM (forty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It's definitely my favorite by Meth. Blackout! 2 was unfairly overlooked, imo, even though it doesn't have the hit-to-miss ratio of the original, it has some jams,
― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link
yeah BO2 was pretty good!
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 21:56 (six years ago) link
#10 Ol' Dirty Bastard — Return to the 36 Chambers: The Dirty Versionhttps://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51mErOnfYcL.jpg10 votes 59 points
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:00 (six years ago) link
this next one is TOO LOW
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:45 (six years ago) link
#9 Wu-Tang Clan — Wu-Tang Foreverhttps://lastfm-img2.akamaized.net/i/u/ar0/d9218d08725343839af3ff15e1133c36 10 votes 60 points
waaaaaaht that is def too low
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link
It's acutally tied with the next one but the next one had a first place vote and more voters(!). this run are all within a handful of points.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:49 (six years ago) link
Babies is great
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 07:18 (six years ago) link
Full list up through 125
#1 Points: 496 Wu-Tang Clan - C.R.E.A.M.#2 Points: 426 Ol' Dirty Bastard - Shimmy Shimmy Ya#3 Points: 383 Wu-Tang Clan - Shame on a Nigga#4 Points: 379 Wu-Tang Clan - Bring Da Ruckus#5 Points: 369 GZA - Liquid Swords#6 Points: 359 Raekwon - Incarcerated Scarfaces#7 Points: 326 GZA - Shadowboxin’#8 Points: 304 Wu-Tang Clan - Protect Ya Neck#9 Points: 301 Wu-Tang Clan - Da Mystery Of Chessboxin’#10 Points: 301 GZA - 4th Chamber#11 Points: 269 Wu-Tang Clan - Triumph#12 Points: 242 Wu-Tang Clan - I Can't Go to Sleep (f. Isaac Hayes)#13 Points: 241 Ghostface Killah - Nutmeg#14 Points: 241 Ol' Dirty Bastard - Got Your Money (f. Kelis)#15 Points: 239 Method Man - Bring The Pain#16 Points: 209 Wu-Tang Clan - Can It Be All So Simple#17 Points: 206 Wu-Tang Clan - Wu-tang Clan Ain't Nuthing Ta F' Wit#18 Points: 199 Raekwon - Glaciers Of Ice#19 Points: 189 Ghostface Killah - One#20 Points: 186 Method Man & Redman - Da Rockwilder#21 Points: 183 Wu-Tang Clan - Gravel Pit#22 Points: 177 Raekwon - Criminology#23 Points: 174 Raekwon - Knowledge God#24 Points: 171 Wu-Tang Clan - Method Man#25 Points: 165 Ol' Dirty Bastard - Brooklyn Zoo#26 Points: 153 GZA - Duel of the Iron Mic#27 Points: 153 Ghostface Killah - Winter Warz#28 Points: 145 Ghostface Killah - Run#29 Points: 144 Ghostface Killah - All That I Got Is You#30 Points: 143 Raekwon - Verbal Intercourse (f. Nas & Ghostface Killah)#31 Points: 141 Ghostface Killah - Daytona 500#32 Points: 138 Wu-Tang Clan - Reunited#33 Points: 137 Ghostface Killah - Apollo Kids#34 Points: 137 Ghostface Killah - Buck 50#35 Points: 131 Wu-Tang Clan - Protect Ya Neck (The Jump off)#36 Points: 130 Method Man - Release Yo' Delf#37 Points: 126 Gravediggaz - 1-800 Suicide#38 Points: 125 Wu-Tang Clan - Careful (Click Click)#39 Points: 125 Wu-Tang Clan - It's Yourz#40 Points: 118 Ghostface Killah - Shakey Dog (Fishscale track)#41 Points: 113 Raekwon - Ice Cream (f. Method Man)#42 Points: 111 Ghostface Killah - Whip You With a Strap#43 Points: 105 Ghostface Killah - Walking Through the Darkness#44 Points: 103 Wu-Tang Clan - Tearz#45 Points: 102 Ghostface Killah - Iron Maiden#46 Points: 97 GZA - Cold World (f. Inspectah Deck)#47 Points: 97 Method Man - All I Need#48 Points: 92 Ghostface Killah - Be Easy#49 Points: 92 Raekwon - Guillotine (Swordz)#50 Points: 87 Raekwon - Rainy Dayz#51 Points: 84 GZA - Swordsmen#52 Points: 82 Ghostface Killah - Kilo#53 Points: 81 Ghostface Killah - Tooken Back (f. Jackie-O)#54 Points: 80 Wu-Tang Clan - Cash Still Rules/Scary Hours #55 Points: 80 Ghostface Killah - Assassination Day#56 Points: 78 Wu-Tang Clan - Uzi (pinky ring)#57 Points: 77 GZA - Living in the world today#58 Points: 75 Ghostface Killah - Maxine#59 Points: 74 Wu-Tang Clan - As High As Wu-Tang Get#60 Points: 70 Ghostface Killah - Mighty Healthy#61 Points: 70 Wu-Tang Clan - Clan in Da Front#62 Points: 69 Killah Priest - B.I.B.L.E.#63 Points: 66 Wu-Tang Clan - Let My Ni**as Live (f. Nas)#64 Points: 63 Wu-Tang Clan - The M.G.M.#65 Points: 62 Ghostface Killah - Cherchez La Ghost#66 Points: 62 Wu-Tang Clan - Rules#67 Points: 59 Ghostface Killah - R.A.G.U.#68 Points: 58 Ghostface Killah - 260#69 Points: 58 Ghostface Killah - The Forest#70 Points: 57 Wu-Tang Clan - Impossible#71 Points: 56 Ghostface Killah - Fish (f. Raekwon & Cappadonna)#72 Points: 55 Wu-Tang Clan - Visionz
#73 Points: 55 Ghostface Killah - Wildflower#74 Points: 53 Gravediggaz - 2 Cups Of Blood#75 Points: 53 Mobb Deep - Right Back at You (f. Ghostface Killah, Raekwon & Big Noyd)#76 Points: 53 Raekwon - Knuckleheadz#77 Points: 52 Raekwon - Heaven & Hell (f. Ghostface Killah)#78 Points: 52 Raekwon - New Wu (f. Ghostface Killah, Method Man)#79 Points: 51 Ghostface Killah - Save me dear#80 Points: 51 GZA - Gold#81 Points: 50 Ghostface Killah - Guest House#82 Points: 49 Ghostface Killah - Wu Banga 101 (f. GZA, Raekwon, Cappadonna and Masta Killa)#83 Points: 47 Method Man & Redman - Y.O.U.#84 Points: 46 RZA - Mantis (featuring Masta Killa & Tekitha)#85 Points: 45 Ghostface Killah - Motherless Child#86 Points: 45 Ghostface Killah - Saturday Nite#87 Points: 43 Ghostface Killah - Ghost Deini#88 Points: 43 Wu-Tang Clan - For Heaven's Sake#89 Points: 42 Wu-Tang Clan - Hollow Bones#90 Points: 40 Ghostface Killah - The Sun (f. Raekwon, RZA, & Slick Rick)#91 Points: 40 Raekwon - Ice Water#92 Points: 39 Shyheim - On and On #93 Points: 38 Masta Killa - Iron God Chamber (f. U-God, Method Man and RZA)#94 Points: 38 Ol' Dirty Bastard - Nigga Please#95 Points: 37 Ghostface Killah - Biscuits (f. Trife da God)#96 Points: 36 Ghostface Killah - You Know I'm No Good#97 Points: 35 RZA - Black Widow Pt. 2 (f. Ol' Dirty Bastard)#98 Points: 35 Wu-Tang Clan - Heaterz#99 Points: 34 Raekwon - Wisdom Body#100 Points: 34 Wu-Tang Clan - Radioactive (Four Assasins)#101 Points: 33 Raekwon - House of Flying Daggers#102 Points: 33 Wu-Tang Clan - Wu-Revolution#103 Points: 32 Ghostface Killah - Big Girl#104 Points: 32 Ol' Dirty Bastard - Snakes#105 Points: 32 Raekwon - 10 Bricks#106 Points: 31 Cappadonna - Slang Editorial#107 Points: 31 Ghostface Killah - The Watch (f. Raekwon)#108 Points: 31 Raekwon - Spot Rusherz#109 Points: 31 Texas Featuring Wu-Tang Clan – Say What You Want (All Day Everyday)#110 Points: 30 Ghostface Killah - The Champ#111 Points: 30 Pras - Ghetto Superstar#112 Points: 30 Wu-Tang Clan - Wu-Tang: 7th Chamber#113 Points: 30 GZA - Amplified Sample#114 Points: 29 GZA - Killah Hills 10304#115 Points: 28 Ghostface Killah - Camay#116 Points: 28 Method Man - Tical#117 Points: 28 Ol' Dirty Bastard - I Can't Wait#118 Points: 28 RZA – Sunshower#119 Points: 27 Method Man & Redman - City Lights (f. Bun B)#120 Points: 27 Wu-Tang Clan - One of These Days#121 Points: 25 Ghostface Killah - Black Jesus#122 Points: 25 Ghostface Killah - Do Over#123 Points: 25 Masta Killa - Old Man (f. Ol Dirty Bastard)#124 Points: 25 Wu-Tang Clan - Severe Punishment#125 Points: 24 GZA - Breaker, Breaker
― competitive shooter - - - - (Spottie), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link
thanks for doing this spottie!
― while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link
np it was fun, sorry it took me so long...
― competitive shooter - - - - (Spottie), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link
Some random thoughts from doing this:
– Inspectah Deck is really underrated. it's too bad he didn't get any of Rza's best work from the first wave to do some solo stuff with– I think Beneath the Surface deserves a spot in the lower-upper ranks of the wu canon. Same with Meth's Tical 2000 (I thought Break Ups 2 Make Ups would place). After this exercise I've decided I prefer Tical 2000 to Tical.– Neither of the 7th Chamber tracks got much love, seems surprising– I'm kinda sad I couldnt get a Sunz Of Man song to place, or a Killah Priest song outside of bible. – Iron Flag is top notch wu i came away from this loving it even more
― competitive shooter - - - - (Spottie), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link
good poll spottie, nice to bring a little bit of order to an awesomely chaotic catalogue
― voodoo chili, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link
re: tical 2000, it didn't make my cut for this poll but i will personally stan hard for "torture"
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:51 (six years ago) link
Love the beat on Suspect Chin Music and I listened to Retro Godfather a ton in college. RZA showing his range between those two.
― competitive shooter - - - - (Spottie), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 21:39 (six years ago) link
ha yeah suspect chin music is my close #2
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 7 December 2017 02:51 (six years ago) link
How did you assign points for each ballot, Spottie? IOW, how many points would someone's #1, #2, #3 and so forth earn? I'm trying to figure out just for myself what the results would've looked like had I submitted a ballot.
― Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Thursday, 7 December 2017 03:14 (six years ago) link
1 502 453 414 385 366 357 348 339 3210 31
and so forth down to pick 36 which was worth 5 pts.
― competitive shooter - - - - (Spottie), Thursday, 7 December 2017 03:36 (six years ago) link
thanks for running this poll, Spottie - good stuff! I for one did not mind the tempo at all
― niels, Thursday, 7 December 2017 07:02 (six years ago) link
surprised Camay didn't place
― video2000, Thursday, 7 December 2017 08:50 (six years ago) link
thanks Spottie, top work!
this is my favourite Killah Priest thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMHZTauB-uY
― Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Thursday, 7 December 2017 09:27 (six years ago) link
Yeah, would have loved to see that one and one of the early Sunz of Man tracks on the list :)
― Frederik B, Thursday, 7 December 2017 12:32 (six years ago) link
This Method Man feature is so good - about halfway through it becomes less about the songs and more about regrets and anxieties: http://www.complex.com/music/2011/10/method-man-25-essential-songs/
― JoeStork, Friday, 8 December 2017 06:08 (six years ago) link
oh yeah lots of good stuff in there thx.
“Dirty took all their shit and made it his own and GZA ain’t say shit. Most of [Dirty’s verses] was GZA’s shit. I remember GZA and ODB got in an argument one night and GZA was like, ‘Nigga most of that shit on your fucking album is mines anyway!’“ODB wrote ‘Brooklyn Zoo’ though. I could go through the discography I could tell you which ones he wrote. Like ‘Dog Shit’ on Wu-Tang Forever? The fucking, ‘Calling me a dog/But leave a dog alone/Because nothing can stop me from burying my bones,’ I wrote that when I was 15 years old.
“ODB wrote ‘Brooklyn Zoo’ though. I could go through the discography I could tell you which ones he wrote. Like ‘Dog Shit’ on Wu-Tang Forever? The fucking, ‘Calling me a dog/But leave a dog alone/Because nothing can stop me from burying my bones,’ I wrote that when I was 15 years old.
― Spottie, Friday, 8 December 2017 22:55 (six years ago) link
yeah it's great
listening to that strange, strange Texas remix I'm reminded of a quote I once heard paraphrased, where RZA describes not knowing the concept of musical keys when starting out as a producer, which, if true, may explain some of the off-ness abt songs like Can It Be All So Simple
― niels, Saturday, 9 December 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link
Thanks for running this poll, Spottie! Unfortunately work kept me from being on ILX during the final half of the rollout, but it was really great to re-engage with the clan. Even though my ballot was all old favorites, the nomination process introduced me to some great tracks I wasn't familiar with
― intheblanks, Saturday, 9 December 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link