Rolling Metal 2017

aaaah

Oh the new Godflesh is quite lovely...

WHAT

https://sumac.bandcamp.com/album/american-dollar-bill-keep-facing-sideways-youre-too-hideous-to-look-at-face-on

Regarding anti-Islamic black metal yes I think the context is a lot different if the band/artist themselves are from the middle east rather than, say, someone like Amalie Brun having "concerns" about Muslims in Europe. After all these people usually face prison or worse if caught playing that stuff and take great care to hide their identities. I'm mostly thinking of acts like Al-Namrood and Abu Lahab, I don't know much about Ayat though.

lmao at the Sumac/Haino tracklist

Love the simple addition of "Pt. 2" after that long ass Haino title :D

seandalai prefers metal poll early before xmas as A) he wants to enjoy his xmas and b) after xmas is when he does big poll etc.

So it may be that it's we do it so it rolls out before xmas or not at all but when would be the best time for ALL of you? before or after xmas.

How could we improve the poll and get more participation?
Does anyone feel the poll has gone stale? Lots of people who used to take part dont now.

Would you all be more likely to vote if it was a bit fresher with somebody new running it? I've no problem handing it over if it will help the poll.

how many voters did we get last time?

cant remember but it seemed to be mainly lurkers! its gone down ever year though and lots of posters on this thread, who the poll is for, have either lost interest in metal or at least voting in the poll so I assume it's gone a bit stale for them somewhere and I'm wondering what we could do to get more participation.

the #1 got 33 votes so I'm assuming at least 40 - that seems like plenty to me.

alas I cannot offer a prize this year

we get voters but a fair amount never seem to post on any of the poll threads. It's odd.

maybe the artist polls are skewing my thoughts but it has felt that ilx in general is older and less into new music, this thread suggests otherwise because it's mainly about new albums , so maybe people are just tired of lists and polls?

if there's anything we can do to improve the poll please say

I don't have any bright ideas for more participation but you do a great job Odysseus and I don't see how it could be improved by someone else taking over.

I'm as bad as anyone but there never seems to be much discussion about music anywhere on ilm these days unless someone's done something shitty and/or criminal, or if people are talking about something from The Real Music Canon for billionth time.

I had a rad time with the poll last year and I expect to again this year, even if turnout drops a bit again

I'm as bad as anyone but there never seems to be much discussion about music anywhere on ilm these days unless someone's done something shitty and/or criminal,

that is about the tenth time I've heard that POV the past few weeks.

I think we are all getting old and getting into other things?

I really love the polls and count me in for a ballot, but I don’t have time to post as much on the rollout threads as I’d like to.

That said, 2017 is an exceptionally weak year in metal so far for me. I’ve listened to a lot of albums with good reviews from various sources but almost nothing has stood out. All the usual channels are failing me, I’m very annoyed.

How could we improve the poll and get more participation?

I always think it's been a weak year till the campaigning thread starts going

I have no idea who the frontrunners even are this year.

I’m sure Converge and Chelsea Wolfe will be contenders. Enslaved, Ruins of Beverast, Pallbearer and Wolves In The Throne Room too.

I’m rarely in touch with the ILM consensus but I like the poll all the same.

I just found out that shredding post-punk/punk/indie rockers Screaming Females will be touring with Thou. Also on the bill HIRS whose Facebook page says "LGBTQIA, anti-authoritarian, bullshit thrash with PUNK ethics. NO GODS//NO COPS//NO BROS."

This is a perplexing yet awesome bill! However I worried that Thou might attract some of the more mookish metal dudes and that they may not be as respectful to the other bands as they should.

Mind you, I really don't care if some assholes who deserves it gets their asses kicked. But I really hate to think about a tour where fellow metal fans make the rest of us look like intolerant assholes by association.

This Facebook post and response was how I found out about the tour:

http://scontent.fphl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23517714_10159617321130597_7700053452464390942_n.jpg?oh=2a4cd8f9118d28cd36c26b11cc763f47&oe=5AAFB631

I know, small sample size. Do I have a reason to be worried here or am I a little paranoid?

don't know yet but I would happily attend that tour tbh

Wait until the year ends so we can spend a little quality time with December releases.

― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative),

we usually have to run it by xmas because of seandalai.
Would people still be up for participating if we have the rollout in february after the main poll, that seandalai has to do as well as this?

otherwise if we start in january we might only have 1 week for noms and 1 week for voting so we can fit it in before the big poll. Im not sure if johnny fever will delay that poll a week to accommodate us

Thou was nice enough to allay my fears on Twitter...

http://scontent.fphl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23519090_10159617410845597_7603188348204271647_n.jpg?oh=24b5150956851a975314ab7716a6a8f7&oe=5AAD212E

I volunteer to help run the poll if it will help our timing issues

Ideally we would wait till after year's end and have at least three weeks for voting and campaigning

take over completely or do the tabulating with a fancy program that Glenn did and seandalai does since?

if there's a program to make it easier that would be nice lol

I would have zero problems tabulating it although with my schedule only Monday is ever free.

it's seandalai's own program and he often stays up and does tabulation when the poll finishes so we can start the results right away.

I look forward to the poll all year. Whenever you want to hold it is fine by me.

all Neanderthals purged from metal

:((((((

lmao

seandalai says it's ok to hold it after xmas if that's what you guys want. If you want a 3 week voting period however we would need to hold the run out after big poll. But im fine with that if that's what people want.

All Cro-Magnons purged from metal

except the Cro-Mags

I hardly go to shows anymore but Thou/Screaming Females is definitely a cool idea I would be more likely to see than Thou/other sludge band.

Simon your offer to help out in the jjj role still open?
You needn't worry about tabulation or setting up forms as seandalai takes care of that.

the jjj role would just be handling the rollout?

and demanding photos of Spider-Man

no, the jjj role was keeping the threads top of sna by keeping chat going, enforcing the "those bands arent metal" stuff and you get to see the results when i do. (you can also do blurbs n stuff should you wish)

what's 'not metal' this year we wonder

oh there was a Dälek album haha

omg I pledge to be the laxest metal enforcer ever, please let me do that

I can grab press clippings and stuff

good man. We need to be in contact tho, are you on FB?

yep, ILXmail me and we can link up

done