Tusk Vs The White Album

oh stop, you're coming around to him because he irritates teh music nerds

Absolutely

There's no wrong way to be right

gary must be really fucking bored with ilx/ilm

Aw, look at Ross trying to be provocative.

Anyway, ignoring that (a.k.a. "insert stock response here") - this thread actually got me to have a listen to The Beatles again, and while I still don't think it's anywhere near creepy, I found enough to enjoy amongst the lesser tracks.

So, let's focus on the good stuff, then: 'Happiness is a Warm Gun' and 'Sexy Sadie' are both wonderful, and 'Birthday' may be a generic rocker, but it fucking rawks.

Actually:

Search: all of side 1 (except 'Glass Onion', 'Wild Honey Pie' and 'The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill') and all of side 3, plus the version of 'Revolution' released as a B-side.

Destroy: all of side 2 (except 'I'm So Tired', 'Blackbird', 'I Will' and 'Julia', which can replace 'Revolution' on the B-side of 'Hey Jude') and all of side 4 (except 'Savoy Truffle')

Side four of The Beatles is the weakest side of vinyl the band ever put out.

You would destroy 'Cry Baby Cry' (and 'Revolution 9', no less, the eye-of-the-duck of the album)?

I tried listening to this album yesterday and it just flew right past me. I must have listened to it so much as a younger person it no longer registers

plus the version of 'Revolution' released as a B-side.

That's not on the album?

Side four of The Beatles is the weakest side of vinyl the band ever put out.

Off-the-top-of-my head nominations for that title:

Side 2 of Help
Side 2 of With the Beatles
Either side of Let It Be

Sexy Sadie is filler

'Cry Baby Cry' sounds like a bit of a potboiler/"work song"/song that was forced out.

Ooh, side 2 of Help! has some stinkers on it, but also about 3-4 great songs. One of 'em being one of the most covered songs of all time.

a lot of these white album tunes have slower, sparser alternate versions on anthology 3 that i like way better:

sexy sadie
helter skelter, this one especially, apparently the one on anthology 3 is an edit of a much longer slow-burning jam that i'd love to hear
cry baby cry
while my guitar gently weeps, acoustic version is haunting and doesn't deal with all the clapton bullshit

when i first got into the beatles i was 13 and the anthology series were coming out, so i heard all these versions before i ever heard the white album

'Cry Baby Cry' sounds like a bit of a potboiler/"work song"/song that was forced out.

― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican),

that's what Lennon said

Always thought of it as a highlight myself.

Then again my tolerance for the Beatles' nursery rhyme songs and errant studio experiments is much higher than most

Cry Baby Cry and Sexy Sadie are both highlights for me. The former is one of the few songs that took a while to become a favourite (this thread has made me realise that my opinions on nearly all of the tracks haven't really changed since I first heard the album 17 years ago).

I can imagine kids in the '70s and '80s learning to play guitar listening to "Cry Baby Cry"

Kids called Sheldon.

Bombshell, my real surname isn't even synaesthesia

finally dmac outs himself as a russian agent

lovin anthology 3 sexy sadie, thx marcos

cool!

there's lots of good stuff on anthology 3 (also some strange omissions) but it's crazy how much of it has this draggy and drained vibe, they were really sick of being the fucking Beatles towards the end of '68 an don.

Or on heroin.

well that was just one of them, no?

Ringo.

Octopus' Garden = shooting gallery (8 arms = all four Beatles)

"You said that you would be late
About an hour or two
I said that's alright I'm waiting here
Just waiting to hear from you"

... obviously The Man is being referenced here.

there's lots of good stuff on anthology 3 (also some strange omissions) but it's crazy how much of it has this draggy and drained vibe, they were really sick of being the fucking Beatles towards the end of '68 an don.

― Οὖτις, Thursday, November 2, 2017 5:20 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah - draggy, drained and bored is pretty much the vibe I get from The Beatles and Let It Be period - the excitement of the likes of 'It Won't Be Long' is near-absent. I'm surprised Abbey Road turned out so well, tbh.

that being said the hungover vibe has its own strange appeal imo. TWA benefits from them still having some interest in studio experimentation as well imo.

y'all heard the Esher Demos right? a lot of those were cleaned up and put on Anthology 3, but I prefer the lo-fi sound of the bootleg, double-tracked vocals and guitar gloriously riding in and out of phase... 'Junk' in particular is beautiful...

Tusk Vs The Orange Album

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"Junk" has a strong Pixar vibe.

Man, I've been listening again and to me TWA is really the last gasp of Beatle brilliance. The last section of "Happiness Is a Warm Gun," the dynamic contrasts of "I'm So Tired," the final verse of "Piggies" - beautiful and intense stuff.

Listen to the first disc of TWA today. What really stood out to me for the first time is how easily "I Will" could be slotted in alongside the Paul ballads and "'Til There Was You" stuff on the early LPs, even down to the performance and instrumentation.

Yeah, that's true! I think McCartney actually owns the copyright to 'Til There Was You' these days.

ok i like the white album again now

some ppl have said they like, and even attribute some Artistic Ah-Intention to, the sequencing. but my preferred way to think about it is as 3 or 4 different albums, and then to discard the 1 or 2 worst. Alfred was otm 12 years ago that

it's the first post-modern album released at the mass-cultural level: an album as much about a band's ability to absorb any genre and spit it out in its own image

happiness
so tired
birthday
dear prudence
yer blues
monkey
helter skelter
long
revolution 1

in the alt universe where this was released, it would be the obvious rockist beatles album of choice (currently abbey road or revolver?) and def the most /punk/. it's the other 2 bands that throw off the scent. and i imagine these songs are the ones they actually identified with at the time, as blasé stoned 27 year olds. next is a sit-on-the-floors lower east side spoken word café ep:

julia
i will
blackbird
rocky raccoon
mother nature's son
cry baby cry

and round it out with a couple 78s worth of gaudy genre-pop

sexy sadie
martha
honey pie
good night

This is a tricky choice for me because I loved the white album as a kid, but it's diminished for me over the years. Not really one of my favorite Beatles albums despite a bunch of classic tracks. OTOH, I have never truly connected with Tusk, and have only given it any time much later in life. It may well be a better album, but I have more sentimental affection for TWA.

Also, TWA is not a particularly spooky album for me, it has so many silly songs. But I don't know that I could ever feel anger or disgust towards people for finding it spooky. Don't know why it is so important to dismiss or attack what are inherently personal reactions to a piece of art.

that's a good way to organize, it flopson!

and if they would have been in the spirit to make another trippy/experimental magical mystery kind of film in 1968, these songs would be leftover:

Bungaloo Bill
Don't Pass Me By
Glass Onion
Piggies
Ob-la-di
Savoy Truffle
Rev 9

also USSR. as maybe the song you find in the vaults and release sometime in the 21st century

organize, it flopson!

i don't know how that happened

Put "Savoy Truffle" on the rock record for crying out loud

I was about to say.

i don't like it though

same for glass onion

a friend pointed out that if you play only the lennon-composed or mccartney-composed songs from this album, you've just about got a hypothetical solo album for each of them. haven't actually tried this yet but it'd be fun to come up w/ a tracklist that flows well.

savoy truffle is a ridiculous song, and then he decided to put horns on it, my god, man, stop.