Tusk Vs The White Album

I don't find it creepy either, but who cares anyway?

Great post. Reminds me of the Aram Saroyan book:

http://eclipsearchive.org/projects/BEATLES/html/contents.html

― timellison, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 23:47 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thanks Tim

I dunno if you spotted it but I typed in in ed sullivans staccato style

Nursery rhymes aren't always creepy.

The creepiest thing is the tunelet on side three or four sung by McCartney ("Can You Take Me Back?" or whatever).

The mono version has loads of notable differences - the outro to 'Helter Skelter' which cuts off the end of the song, a different ending to 'Don't Pass Me By' etc.

Turrican is a mean dude; not sure why people give a fuck

i liked it when he called people 'Sheldon'

The creepiest thing is the tunelet on side three or four sung by McCartney ("Can You Take Me Back?" or whatever).

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, November 1, 2017 12:41 AM (twelve hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The very end to 'Long, Long, Long' I'd say, but in either case we're talking a few seconds of a double LP that lasts over an hour and a half.

Ah so now you're saying it IS creepy!?

A few seconds of a double LP that lasts over an hour and a half =/= the whole album. I also said this, like, a zillion posts ago.

Secondly, something about lousy comprehension abilities.

The mono version has loads of notable differences - the outro to 'Helter Skelter' which cuts off the end of the song, a different ending to 'Don't Pass Me By' etc.

― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, November 1, 2017 2:56 AM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's true, there are lots of differences (one song is pitched up a semitone, a la "She's Leaving Home"), I was just saying I don't think any of the songs sound better in mono.

A few seconds of a double LP that lasts over an hour and a half =/= the whole album. I also said this, like, a zillion posts ago.

Secondly, something about lousy comprehension abilities.

― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, November 1, 2017 2:54 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh this is gold

Yes, it's absolute gold that you're not good at either maths or reading.

that's true, there are lots of differences (one song is pitched up a semitone, a la "She's Leaving Home"), I was just saying I don't think any of the songs sound better in mono.

― flappy bird, Wednesday, November 1, 2017 4:54 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think it might be 'Don't Pass Me By' that's actually the one that's pitched up - there's also different blackbird noises on 'Blackbird' and some other things here and there that I've possibly forgotten about... it's been a while since I've heard the mono version!

But yeah, generally everything up to 1968 sounds better in mono and almost everything after in stereo. There's exceptions: I prefer the mono Ogden's Nut Gone Flake to the stereo, for one.

I don't think there was a mono edition of Abbey Road unless it was just some shit fold-down.

I think....I'm coming around to Turrican tbh. At least it's a style.

oh stop, you're coming around to him because he irritates teh music nerds

Absolutely

There's no wrong way to be right

gary must be really fucking bored with ilx/ilm

Aw, look at Ross trying to be provocative.

Anyway, ignoring that (a.k.a. "insert stock response here") - this thread actually got me to have a listen to The Beatles again, and while I still don't think it's anywhere near creepy, I found enough to enjoy amongst the lesser tracks.

So, let's focus on the good stuff, then: 'Happiness is a Warm Gun' and 'Sexy Sadie' are both wonderful, and 'Birthday' may be a generic rocker, but it fucking rawks.

Actually:

Search: all of side 1 (except 'Glass Onion', 'Wild Honey Pie' and 'The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill') and all of side 3, plus the version of 'Revolution' released as a B-side.

Destroy: all of side 2 (except 'I'm So Tired', 'Blackbird', 'I Will' and 'Julia', which can replace 'Revolution' on the B-side of 'Hey Jude') and all of side 4 (except 'Savoy Truffle')

Side four of The Beatles is the weakest side of vinyl the band ever put out.

You would destroy 'Cry Baby Cry' (and 'Revolution 9', no less, the eye-of-the-duck of the album)?

I tried listening to this album yesterday and it just flew right past me. I must have listened to it so much as a younger person it no longer registers

plus the version of 'Revolution' released as a B-side.

That's not on the album?

Side four of The Beatles is the weakest side of vinyl the band ever put out.

Off-the-top-of-my head nominations for that title:

Side 2 of Help
Side 2 of With the Beatles
Either side of Let It Be

Sexy Sadie is filler

'Cry Baby Cry' sounds like a bit of a potboiler/"work song"/song that was forced out.

Ooh, side 2 of Help! has some stinkers on it, but also about 3-4 great songs. One of 'em being one of the most covered songs of all time.

a lot of these white album tunes have slower, sparser alternate versions on anthology 3 that i like way better:

sexy sadie
helter skelter, this one especially, apparently the one on anthology 3 is an edit of a much longer slow-burning jam that i'd love to hear
cry baby cry
while my guitar gently weeps, acoustic version is haunting and doesn't deal with all the clapton bullshit

when i first got into the beatles i was 13 and the anthology series were coming out, so i heard all these versions before i ever heard the white album

'Cry Baby Cry' sounds like a bit of a potboiler/"work song"/song that was forced out.

― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican),

that's what Lennon said

Always thought of it as a highlight myself.

Then again my tolerance for the Beatles' nursery rhyme songs and errant studio experiments is much higher than most

Cry Baby Cry and Sexy Sadie are both highlights for me. The former is one of the few songs that took a while to become a favourite (this thread has made me realise that my opinions on nearly all of the tracks haven't really changed since I first heard the album 17 years ago).

I can imagine kids in the '70s and '80s learning to play guitar listening to "Cry Baby Cry"

Kids called Sheldon.

Bombshell, my real surname isn't even synaesthesia

finally dmac outs himself as a russian agent

lovin anthology 3 sexy sadie, thx marcos

cool!

there's lots of good stuff on anthology 3 (also some strange omissions) but it's crazy how much of it has this draggy and drained vibe, they were really sick of being the fucking Beatles towards the end of '68 an don.

Or on heroin.

well that was just one of them, no?

Ringo.

Octopus' Garden = shooting gallery (8 arms = all four Beatles)

"You said that you would be late
About an hour or two
I said that's alright I'm waiting here
Just waiting to hear from you"

... obviously The Man is being referenced here.

there's lots of good stuff on anthology 3 (also some strange omissions) but it's crazy how much of it has this draggy and drained vibe, they were really sick of being the fucking Beatles towards the end of '68 an don.

― Οὖτις, Thursday, November 2, 2017 5:20 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah - draggy, drained and bored is pretty much the vibe I get from The Beatles and Let It Be period - the excitement of the likes of 'It Won't Be Long' is near-absent. I'm surprised Abbey Road turned out so well, tbh.

that being said the hungover vibe has its own strange appeal imo. TWA benefits from them still having some interest in studio experimentation as well imo.

y'all heard the Esher Demos right? a lot of those were cleaned up and put on Anthology 3, but I prefer the lo-fi sound of the bootleg, double-tracked vocals and guitar gloriously riding in and out of phase... 'Junk' in particular is beautiful...

Tusk Vs The Orange Album

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Beatles-White-Album-ORANGE-COVER-USA-APPLE-Embossed-Numbered-INSANELY-UBER-RARE/182841679894?_trkparms=aid%3D777001%26algo%3DDISCO.FEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D49102%26meid%3D1704c700623e43129906ebf10fe16612%26pid%3D100651%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26&_trksid=p2481888.c100651.m4497&_trkparms=pageci%253A308d1e5b-c00a-11e7-b611-74dbd1800321%257Cparentrq%253A7e5d500c15f0a9c446b20580fffeadb1%257Ciid%253A3

"Junk" has a strong Pixar vibe.