In A Similarly Silent Way

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right on! i'll check it out tonight

yeah tbh i've meant to dig into the other stuff, it just all seems so daunting and massive.

brimstead, Friday, 27 October 2017 16:58 (eight years ago)

yeah, not to say there isn't plenty of "out" playing and general freakiness, but especially in 74-75, I've found a bunch of subtler/gentler stuff creeping into the live shows.

tylerw, Friday, 27 October 2017 17:08 (eight years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnnBifdSbqA

DPRK Nowitzki (lpz), Friday, 27 October 2017 17:29 (eight years ago)

^ Oof, tasty. Kind of Sextant + IASW, in 15/8/time!

This Circle feat. Verde album sounds like a meditation on IASW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEnzGI_vXBQ

Noel Emits, Friday, 27 October 2017 17:46 (eight years ago)

three months pass...

Heard Freddie Hubbard's Red Clay for the first time last night through a friend's really nice sound system, and it was spectacular and in a similarly silent way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT9aGUom3Bk

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:04 (eight years ago)

I really like the version of that song on the CTI Allstars California concert lp played by the stripped down band
Freddie Hubbard (trumpet), Stanley Turrentine (tenor saxophone), George Benson (guitar), Johnny Hammond (keyboards), Ron Carter (upright bass), Billy Cobham (drums), Airto Moreira (percussion).

Stevolende, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 20:34 (eight years ago)

Title track of Red Clay is still one of my fave CTI jams

doug watson, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 21:06 (eight years ago)

A friend gave me Red Clay on vinyl a few years back; I played it once and filed it away. I'm listening to it now via the link above and it's better than I remember. Doesn't have IASW's languid spaciness, though.

Supporters Fear Dan's Post Will Lack The Edge They Love (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 21:34 (eight years ago)

that mal waldron track upthread is radical. annoying that copies of that record are so pricey (appears to be on spotify though).

tylerw, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 22:13 (eight years ago)

was gonna mention that julian priester "love,love" embedded above - what an extraordinary cut (side one esp but both are huge)

umsworth (emsworth), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 00:38 (eight years ago)

The Call by Mal Waldron is so excellent, and I think sadly it's his only material where he plays electric piano.

calzino, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 00:42 (eight years ago)

If anyone needs another hot version of Red Clay (and truthfully they're all pretty hot) - Freddie & Joe Henderson guest on Charles Earland's 'Leaving This Planet' and it rips. About a decade later there's a Hubbard LP titled Classics that has Henderson again along with Bobby Hutcherson and it's choice. Well worth seeking.

As for the thread topic I would second The Jewel In The Lotus. Just a great, great record.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 02:57 (eight years ago)

Red Clay and Straight Life are both excellent albums; so is Stanley Turrentine's Sugar, which also has Hubbard, Benson, and Carter, plus Lonnie Liston Smith on keyboards.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 03:10 (eight years ago)

damn is there a CTI thread? every time I get a CTI rec it sends me down a smooth, big budget rabbit hole

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 03:12 (eight years ago)

This whole album is beautiful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huurRUUBl7M

DPRK Nowitzki (EMEL), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:14 (eight years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgGaxJ3glLo

DPRK Nowitzki (EMEL), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:16 (eight years ago)

Think Benny Maupin's "Jewel in the Lotus" is pretty reminiscent and has other Miles veterans besides himself playing on it (H. Hancock; Buster Williams; Billy Hart etc.).

ellaguru, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 21:29 (eight years ago)

that Harvest Time by Sanders upthread is spectacular

niels, Thursday, 22 February 2018 18:04 (eight years ago)

Great record, one of his best. Too bad it’s so scarce without a legit reissue.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 22 February 2018 20:15 (eight years ago)

So much great stuff in this thread. I'd add that many versions of "Dark Star" played by the Grateful Dead in 1973 and 74 give off strong "Shh/Peaceful" vibes with their mellow fusion-oriented improv in the mixolydian mode and Keith Godchaux on Fender Rhodes.

Prime example from 8/1/73:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QsoDMEXFXM

J. Sam, Thursday, 22 February 2018 20:38 (eight years ago)

Is there a Godwin's for Grateful Dead? :)

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 23 February 2018 17:36 (eight years ago)

Radiohead seem to have some sounds lifted from Miles electric era particularly from In A Silent Way/Bitches Brew. E.g Trumpet line in “Bloom”, electric keyboards in “Subterranean Homesick alien”, Kinetic even samples Miles Davis iirc... they seem to like Miles Davis and Mingus a lot (but then again who doesn’t?)... can’t think of any more specific examples but there’s some textures and production choices from OKC onwards which seem to be sprinkled with influeces from Miles’ electric era.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 23 February 2018 22:31 (eight years ago)

Shuggie Otis (this was a bonus track on the Luaka Bop reissue of Inspiration Information) Freedom Flight is def in the silent way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws7iWxvl6sY

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 February 2018 23:19 (eight years ago)

two months pass...

don't think this has been mentioned yet, Idris Muhammed "Peace"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls0nFVV58Xg

mizzell, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 15:54 (eight years ago)

https://open.spotify.com/track/0yFSGJ79Id2e1EENqmVeWA
A.D. Buchanan's Armchair Gospel from Danish trumpet player Jacob Buchanan fits - featuring Jakob Bro on guitar and Marilyn Mazur (who played with Miles) on drums

such a jam

niels, Sunday, 13 May 2018 12:10 (eight years ago)

three months pass...

Another one not named: Terje Rypdal's song Ghostdancing is almost surely an homage (and has hints of Pharaoh's Dance).

Pataphysician, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 21:53 (seven years ago)

Excellent UK post-jazz band Dinosaur's latest album has some great Silent Way type moments on it. I recommend. I also recommend their more immediate previous album

https://i2.wp.com/www.birdistheworm.com/wp-content/uploads/Dinosaur-Wonder-Trail.jpg?fit=355%2C355&ssl=1

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Friday, 24 August 2018 08:44 (seven years ago)

^ These ppl annoy me for A) never having heard of J Mascis and B) not being legally obliged to amend their band name.

Ward Fowler, Friday, 24 August 2018 09:07 (seven years ago)

They're very nice people though and come across very lovely on stage

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Friday, 24 August 2018 09:23 (seven years ago)

^ These ppl annoy me for A) never having heard of J Mascis and B) not being legally obliged to amend their band name.

where are the former members of jefferson airplane when you need them?

canary christ (stevie), Friday, 24 August 2018 09:34 (seven years ago)

I can't tell who's joking or what but isn't that 60/70s band the reason that Dinosaur Jr had to add the "Jr"?

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2018 12:35 (seven years ago)

oh wow never mind I looked it up so this is another new band haha I'd never seen the original 60s one and that cover could be from whenever

so they'll be Dinosaur Jr Jr

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2018 12:38 (seven years ago)

I always take a token brit-jazz Mercury prize nom as an indelible stain on a band's character, much more than whatever the heck their bloody name is!

calzino, Friday, 24 August 2018 12:57 (seven years ago)

The Dinosaurs were ex members of several ballroom scene SF bands at least one of whom had legal training and sued the Amherst band over use of their name,. I think that was after the 2nd lp, & they actually played in London under the original non-augmented name at the end of 87.
Surprised me that this jazz band could come along and use the name without comment but maybe the people who brought the late 80s lawsuit are retired or dead

Stevolende, Friday, 24 August 2018 13:03 (seven years ago)

Dinosaur UK?

doug watson, Friday, 24 August 2018 13:35 (seven years ago)

this is why the arthur russell project became "dinosaur l", right?

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Friday, 24 August 2018 13:44 (seven years ago)

Sanctuary from Bitches Brew sounds a good deal like ISW.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 24 August 2018 17:09 (seven years ago)

one year passes...

"Nowhere" by Bob Moses (recorded in 1967-68 but shelved until 2003) gives off strong proto-IaSW vibes. shame it doesn't continue for another 15 or 20 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdnqcOwMjb0

nothing in the dialog (unregistered), Friday, 3 January 2020 00:38 (six years ago)

four months pass...

this track by Luis Gasca starts off sounding like IASW rip, the rest of the album, For Those Who Chant, has other stuff going on (Carlos Santana, chanting etc)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVMV2VyiKr4

mizzell, Thursday, 14 May 2020 21:56 (six years ago)

I love that album. The personnel is amazing: Gasca on trumpet, Joe Henderson on tenor sax, Hadley Caliman on flute, Carlos Santana and Neal Schon on guitars, Richard Kermode on organ, George Cables, Gregg Rolie and Mark Levine on piano and/or electric piano, José "Chepito" Areas on vibes, Stanley Clarke on bass, Lenny White and Michael Shrieve on drums, Carmelo Garcia and Coke Escovedo on timbales, Mike Carabello and Victor Pantoja on congas, and Garnette Mims, Joan MacGregor, Rico Reyes, and Snooky Flowers on other percussion.

It's only ever been released on CD once, in Japan, and the prices on Discogs are far more than I'm willing to pay.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 14 May 2020 22:19 (six years ago)

Brand-new music from Anthony Nemet, who's collaborated a bunch with Meg from U.S. Girls and her husband Max Turnbull--this is In A Supersilent Way, but IMO he nails it, maybe uncannily so but man I love this sound (another band from here in Toronto that I'd also recommend to folks, who are friends of/peers with Anthony but come from the Soft Machine/prog end of jazz fusion, would be Zacht Automaat):

https://tonypriceto.bandcamp.com/album/interview-discount

call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Thursday, 21 May 2020 21:02 (six years ago)

lol, “Zacht Automaat” looks like a failed English-to-Dutch translation of “Soft Machine” (correct would be “Zachte Automaat”)

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:07 (six years ago)

It is--the bandleader, Carl Didur, is a huge Softs fan

call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:44 (six years ago)

this tony price record is crazy

is he sampling or did he actually manage to get a band to sound like this or is it both ?

budo jeru, Friday, 22 May 2020 03:17 (six years ago)

He has good/interesting horn players on the session (Daniel Pencer on bass clarinet plays live with Andy Shauf; Andy Haas on sax was in Martha & The Muffins early on and now plays in the Cosmic Range), which helps IMO, and obv treated the sounds (electric keys, etc.) for max Teology

call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Friday, 22 May 2020 03:39 (six years ago)

https://aquariumdrunkard.com/2020/05/26/tune-in-zone-out-silent-ways/

tylerw, Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:52 (six years ago)

two years pass...

Eddie Henderson's Sunburst

― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, October 15, 2008 10:11 AM

his two mid-70s blue notes (sunburst and heritage) are so appropriate for this topic. more polished and funky than what miles had done, but the more i hear those two albums through the years, the better they sound. there's a very opaque quality to them that i just can't articulate - there's moments on both that still don't sound like anything else to me.

ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 16:23 (three years ago)

also here's a fun late 70s eddie henderson tune-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk1GDzvHtMI

"connie" (1977)

ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 17:29 (three years ago)

All but one of Henderson's '70s albums are good to great. For those who don't know, Realization and Inside Out are basically Mwandishi albums released under Henderson's name, and then Sunburst, Comin' Through, Heritage and Mahal are all slick jazz-funk gradually evolving into disco. He made one more album, 1979's Runnnin' To Your Love, that I've never heard, but he's lying down shirtless on the cover, caressing a flugelhorn, and I think I'm safe in passing on it.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 17:55 (three years ago)

four weeks pass...

there's a donald byrd record from the late 60s called Kofi

just getting around to this. excellent.

budo jeru, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 23:48 (three years ago)


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