i listened to 3 emo albums in my life at present, including this one lol
― flopson, Saturday, 21 October 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link
i loved atdi in hs but ito rock shit i was p much excluse the 'garage' scene (broadly defined) in my early twenties, no regrets as i had the time of my life playing and going to shows twice a week. the only ppl i knew into emo then were more about the mathy/post-hardcore end of it; i think i wasn't fully aware of how fully good emo bangs as conventional rock music
― flopson, Saturday, 21 October 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link
i havent listened to much "emo" music in like a decade, so maybe the scene itself has changed, but if science fiction is seen as an emo album it probably has more to do with the band's historic association with that scene than it does with the actual music
― k3vin k., Saturday, 21 October 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link
i mean this is just a rock album
― k3vin k., Saturday, 21 October 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link
it's post-emo
― flopson, Saturday, 21 October 2017 20:46 (six years ago) link
chorus of same logic is straight emo imo
― flopson, Saturday, 21 October 2017 20:47 (six years ago) link
yeah there's some touches for sure
― k3vin k., Saturday, 21 October 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link
JUST JEALOUS CAUSE WERE YOUNG AND IN LOVE
another note from the show - lacey played 'soco amaretto lime' but changed the lyrics from "you're just jealous cause were young and in love" to "i'm just jealous cause you're young and in love"
― Mordy, Saturday, 21 October 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link
the enunciation of the "boy we gave you every opportunity" part is super emo
― Flogging Mommy (diamonddave85), Saturday, 21 October 2017 23:20 (six years ago) link
― Mordy, Saturday, October 21, 2017 7:01 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah i noticed this from a youtube recently, i like the change. also on a mostly unrelated note he sings "i am paid to make you boys panic while i sing" in "spin light" these days -- i get the feeling he realizes some of his earlier lyrics were kind of, to use a contemporary term, a little problematic
― k3vin k., Saturday, 21 October 2017 23:43 (six years ago) link
it was just striking to me along w/ the other stuff that it's a much darker more pessimistic gloomy take
― Mordy, Saturday, 21 October 2017 23:45 (six years ago) link
yeah no idea what kind of place jesse is in but he's always been outwardly pretty troubled
― k3vin k., Sunday, 22 October 2017 00:07 (six years ago) link
the old stuff is good for what it is (music for kids) but it's not something i can really imagine listening to all the time anymore
fwiw i understand why you and presumably lacey feel this way but i think deja entendu continues to contain some of their most direct, affecting + memorable work. but i never think that "music for kids" is necessarily a limitation on popular music (i still listen to pet sounds too)
― Mordy, Sunday, 22 October 2017 00:07 (six years ago) link
there were signs all over the venue when you entered that said that there would be no crowd surfing at the show and anyone who crowd surfed would get ejected. when the concert started the band played the first few songs behind a gate/fence that spanned the entire length of the stage like they were in jail. i was thinking "oh my god he is so freaked out about the audience he is playing behind a gate now" but it lifted after the first few songs i felt whew
― Mordy, Sunday, 22 October 2017 00:10 (six years ago) link
sort of feel like if i were a band of brand new's popularity i'd be performing behind something bulletproof
― k3vin k., Sunday, 22 October 2017 00:40 (six years ago) link
Jesse Lacey threw his guitar last night. What an icon pic.twitter.com/gqCdo9Y1Ud— Thiqq Goth GF (@valisneckdeep) October 22, 2017
― Mordy, Friday, 3 November 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link
Lets all go and meet our makerWon't matter whose side you're onWe're so afraid, I prayed and prayedWhen God told me to love the bombhttps://i.imgur.com/fwoNXZm.jpg
― phenibut rock (rip van wanko), Friday, 3 November 2017 18:31 (six years ago) link
so this is looking pretty much like my aoty and unlikely to be dethroned
― Mordy, Friday, 3 November 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link
same
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 3 November 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link
yep
― k3vin k., Friday, 3 November 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link
Not there yet but I might have to resign to the fact that come December, this will be true for me as well. Pacing in that direction.
*dreams of Brand New winning the EOY poll*
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 3 November 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link
Will def be a top 5
― Spottie, Friday, 3 November 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link
my new favorite part of this album is the solo in “137”
― k3vin k., Saturday, 4 November 2017 01:13 (six years ago) link
The guitar solo in "137" is the most glorious musical moment of 2017.― ArchCarrier, Friday, October 6, 2017 11:47 AM (four weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ArchCarrier, Friday, October 6, 2017 11:47 AM (four weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 4 November 2017 12:30 (six years ago) link
Yeah that whole song is great but I'm always waiting for that bit.
The album is currently my 2nd-favourite of the year behind Paramore.
― Gavin, Leeds, Saturday, 4 November 2017 13:55 (six years ago) link
both will be in my top 5 as well for sure
― Simon H., Saturday, 4 November 2017 14:07 (six years ago) link
so
― 龜, Friday, 10 November 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link
https://www.facebook.com/briankeithdiaz/posts/10155933792623552
― 龜, Friday, 10 November 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link
pete wentz prob has an upcoming reckoning too
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 10 November 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link
yeahhhh
― Simon H., Friday, 10 November 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link
sigh
― Simon H., Friday, 10 November 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link
i was aware jesse was an asshole for 1000 years but not that much of one
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 10 November 2017 18:27 (six years ago) link
Brand New is cancelled and I'm here to remind you that you can't separate the art from the artist. pic.twitter.com/aa8SmJkA4z— Autumn Lavis (@AutumnLavis) November 10, 2017
― na (NA), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link
oh that's contained in the facebook thread. sorry.
― na (NA), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link
lesser light
― ur-oik (rip van wanko), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link
i like the music but this guy wears patagonia hats ppl
― ur-oik (rip van wanko), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link
well damn :/
― ufo, Friday, 10 November 2017 22:49 (six years ago) link
i’ve been flagging more posts than usual today
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 10 November 2017 22:55 (six years ago) link
it’s almost always some asshole making a joke out of sexual assault
https://www.facebook.com/BrandNew/posts/10155923794753023
jesse basically admits to it without actually addressing it
don't recommend the comments
― ufo, Sunday, 12 November 2017 03:40 (six years ago) link
Felt like some of the powers that be were dragging their feet about permanently writing these guys off, but those new allegations should be the nail in the coffin. Truly horrific.
There was some other Warped Tour band a few years back accused of some similar grooming, right? Can't remember which one they were, but it makes me wonder if this is a trend that's particularly common in this scene. Seems like a toxic confluence of technology/fan access + song subject matter perfect for drawing/earning the trust and sympathies of vulnerable young fans. It recasts the band's entire discography in a sinister light, knowing that their albums were effectively a trap used to lure victims.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 16:14 (six years ago) link
It recasts the band's entire discography in a sinister light, knowing that their albums were effectively a trap used to lure victims.
i think this is a weird conclusion to arrive at but it sure is popular
anyway yes this band is basically dead to me
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link
http://flavorwire.com/528083/pop-punk-keeps-forgiving-sexual-harassers-to-the-detriment-of-its-teen-girl-fanbase
― na (NA), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 17:28 (six years ago) link
Great piece. Also this one from 2015 hints at how vast the scope of the problem is: https://medium.com/cuepoint/warped-behavior-sexual-violence-on-tour-8ad218d50bc9
Gotta imagine there's a reckoning coming. How many dozens of bands must have known this stuff went on and turned a blind eye to it?
― Evan R, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link
i was once at a green day show when i was about 15, i was getting a ride home from these friends of a friend's older brother and they were huge nerds who wanted to stay and meet the band afterwards, which i wasn't really interested in but they were my ride home. tre cool (who would've been late 20s at the time) spent the whole time trying to convince a 15/16 year old girl to get on the tour bus with him, and pulled his cock out at some stage with some really flimsy pretext.
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link
jesus fucking christ
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link
When I was in university taking a shuttle bus between campuses, I randomly overheard a girl (roughly my age at the time so I'd say 18-20) talking about how she'd had sex with someone from GD after a show. That's pretty second-hand, obviously, but it's always stayed with me.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 14 November 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link
Have other band members responded yet?
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link
Not that I've seen.
I finally brought myself to read the Pitchfork piece and jfc
― Simon H., Wednesday, 15 November 2017 13:36 (six years ago) link
If anyone ever wants to write a piece about #MeToo and artist fandom, which someone probably should, they'd do well to start with the wildly divergent (and still-unraveling) reactions on the Brand New subreddit.
― Simon H., Friday, 18 May 2018 01:58 (six years ago) link