ariel has been a reactionary prick forever, i kind of thought this was well known?
― marcos, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link
I don't think anyone is shocked, it's just another installment. & obviously even more stark & nauseating given the timing
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 17:42 (six years ago) link
Yea the chapel is small. We was packed like sardines in there until half the crowd dipped
― sunkengarden, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 21:02 (six years ago) link
glad my long-held assessment that this guy's music sucks also applies to his personality
― akm, Friday, 20 October 2017 12:57 (six years ago) link
would you not prefer it if it was just the former of those two options
― PaulTMA, Friday, 20 October 2017 14:07 (six years ago) link
Some record store in Atlanta stopped selling AP's music and he's feuding with them on twitter
Another day of being attacked by Ariel Pink and his legion of enablers.— Indie Vinyl Den (@indievinylden) October 20, 2017
This is just a sampling of how many people are defending public actions of Ariel Pink (of which even he call gross conduct.) pic.twitter.com/ISqWksKSai— Indie Vinyl Den (@indievinylden) October 20, 2017
― flappy bird, Friday, 20 October 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link
I have one ticket to the Philly show on Friday Nov 3rd, looking to sell it for face value (which is less than I wound up paying with fees added in). Anyone in the Baltimore area want to buy it from me?
Just realizing that I'm not up for all the driving needed to see it, especially when there are other things I need to do timewise and no one I know (other than one performer) will be attending.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 29 October 2017 22:21 (six years ago) link
i had never really listened to much cabaret voltaire before but right now i have red mecca on and jeez this is like 90% of ariel's early sound huh
― marcos, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 21:10 (six years ago) link
... no?
― brimstead, Thursday, 16 November 2017 01:55 (six years ago) link
definitely in there but no 90%
― flappy bird, Thursday, 16 November 2017 02:06 (six years ago) link
i think it's just.. lofi
― brimstead, Thursday, 16 November 2017 02:10 (six years ago) link
Yeah I wouldn't even say 50%. Here's a 90% playlist:
Calice - Shaking Romance (1984)Charles Smith and Jim Tollan - Taktent (1984)The 6ths - Rot In The Sun (1994)Lives Of Angels - Imperial Motors (1983)Martin Newell - Gamma Ray Blue (1985)
― 3×5, Saturday, 18 November 2017 01:45 (six years ago) link
Imperial Motors is maybe 75--80%
― 3×5, Saturday, 18 November 2017 01:48 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhJvGJhKxGM
― brimstead, Saturday, 18 November 2017 02:17 (six years ago) link
this, which is the first track on his FACT mix, sounds so much like him it's nuts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbGiSsE0Y0s
― brimstead, Saturday, 18 November 2017 02:19 (six years ago) link
Wow
― calstars, Saturday, 18 November 2017 02:50 (six years ago) link
I was looking for that band, but I couldn't search for it because I don't know Cyrillic. Good call though, brimstead. Also Оборотень Лис
― 3×5, Saturday, 18 November 2017 16:04 (six years ago) link
Anyone ripped these?
― calstars, Saturday, 18 November 2017 19:59 (six years ago) link
It doesn’t sound that much like his own music but threadc reminded that I really liked this from that same FACT mix AP did a few years ago.
https://youtu.be/h_O0cDszcuE
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 20 November 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link
that was reissued on this amazing comp last year: https://www.discogs.com/Various-Sky-Girl/release/8684302
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 21 November 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link
Julian Casablancas: I Strive To Build A World Where… Ariel Pink Is As Popular As Ed Sheeran
― flappy bird, Monday, 12 March 2018 16:56 (six years ago) link
SSION – “At Least The Sky Is Blue” (Feat. Ariel Pink) Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to9ggdpiSyk
― flappy bird, Monday, 12 March 2018 17:01 (six years ago) link
really good song, listened to it 4 or 5 times in a row on thursday. sneaks up on u
Every generation gets the David Bowie it deserves.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 12 March 2018 17:08 (six years ago) link
not sure about the outro but otherwise quite enjoyable! who is SSION?
― niels, Monday, 12 March 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link
don't know but that hook is killer
― flappy bird, Monday, 12 March 2018 17:21 (six years ago) link
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, March 12, 2018 1:08 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yuppies deserved prince?
― flappy bird, Monday, 12 March 2018 17:22 (six years ago) link
wow that washed over me with zero effect
― zalstarz (calstars), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 01:35 (six years ago) link
try again took me a couple tries I was skeptical at first
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 02:20 (six years ago) link
ssion - my love grows in the dark was a kinda big song like 4 or 5 years ago i think.
― dynamicinterface, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 02:42 (six years ago) link
the good bit is where it interpolates Neil young's Neil Young's Hey Hey, My My (Into The Black) from 4 minutes in. I like it though.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 02:43 (six years ago) link
i like the video
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 02:46 (six years ago) link
i like Ariel Pink but he is in no way the Bowie of this generation. Bowie had a solid 15 years of radio hits singles and mass appeal (despite Julian's dumb fantasy tons of people knew who Bowie was in the 70's). Pink has't even gotten to his Space Oddity yet.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 11:11 (six years ago) link
that’s exactly what JC is saying though right? In a better world “Round and Round” would’ve been a radio hit. All the records this decade have as much mass appeal as Bowie imo - “Only in My Dreams,” “Baby,” “PYNIMP,” “Another Weekend,” “L’estat,” “Kinski Assassin,” “Feels Like Heaven”... and “Space Oddity” was only a hit years later after Ziggy.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 15:30 (six years ago) link
All the records this decade have as much mass appeal as Bowie imo
not in the opinion of the masses tho!
― I’m 16 and a member of UKIP’s youth wing, young independence (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 15:36 (six years ago) link
well it's a different era, Bowie was on a major label, exploded in popularity after a performance on Top of the Pops when everyone watched that show no matter who was on because there were so few options on TV
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 16:32 (six years ago) link
Space Oddity saw Bowie temporarily become a one-hit wonder until Ziggy
― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link
sure but again he was on a major label. But it is true AP the man does not have the charisma or stage presence of Bowie. quite the opposite in fact.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link
n a better world “Round and Round” would’ve been a radio hit.
lol whut
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 17:58 (six years ago) link
I remember Ellen Olenska in The Age of Innocence: "Oh, my dear - where is that country? Have you ever been there?"
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link
def could've seen it becoming a crossover hit helped by commercial syncs & a bigger push by 4AD. I'd say the same for Grimes but as has been discussed on her thread, Art Angels performed shockingly poorly on the charts compared to how much acclaim it got & how much people love it. maybe the problem is 4AD.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 18:06 (six years ago) link
Agree about the hit potential for "Round and Round." That fan video with the footage from "Perfect" made it seem like it should be soundtracking crossfit/soulcycle sessions.
― henry s, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 18:30 (six years ago) link
a bigger push in what direction? there's no radio format that's hospitable to the type of music the dude makes.
greater commercial success for an artist like a purity ring just involves getting it in front of people who already like similar music and will immediately understand it. ariel pink's music doesn't really resemble anything that ever has been wildly successful or is wildly successful currently. to get him over the hump, you'd either have to find a way to make his music more commercial without sanding off the edges that make it appealing to fans, or have a legion of his acolytes go forth into the industry and do that work for him by creating commercial music that proudly bears his influence that would provide mainstream audiences with the context they'd need to understand and appreciate what he does.
that's not even getting into any of the personal stuff.
i personally would characterize "round and round" as a song that actually over-performed relative to what the natural demand for this guy's music is, and that the dude's boosters in the media and at his label performed a miraculous act akin to squeezing blood from a stone when they managed to get his name out there as much as they did.
― james brooks, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link
all the songs I listed, esp. 'Round and Round,' could slot in perfectly on pop/rock radio. not to mention every single college radio station in the country. I agree that the main problem is his complete lack of charisma, really an anti-charisma, that shatters the Bowie comparison & his pop chances. and again, even that's not getting into the personal stuff, which is another huge problem. but on the music alone, I could see it in another world.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 18:53 (six years ago) link
Round and Round is a good song that droops under the weight of its deliberate lethargy and lacklustre vocal delivery. A cover of the song could be a hit but this song as it is? no.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:07 (six years ago) link
"round and round" is over five minutes long and takes forever to get to the chorus. the relevant radio formats are overrun by beat-driven comfort food like portugal. the man's "feel it still" and imagine dragons. ariel pink is not LP1 MGMT - what he's doing has no relationship to the type of rock music that's currently doing numbers.
the dude's brand as an underappreciated mad genius or whatever is a perfect match for his actual skillset. he routinely over-delivers relative to the very low expectations his public persona inspires, which keeps a small base of hardcore fans happy. that is the type of career he seems to be able to handle and i don't think anything bigger would work out well for either him or the world.
― james brooks, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:12 (six years ago) link
flappy bird, were you listening to pop radio in 2010 and 2011
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:13 (six years ago) link
"Round and Round" would have fit just fine and Usher-Pitfull, Rihanna, Bruno Mars, and Gaga.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:14 (six years ago) link
MGMT is a great comparison, 5 minute hits are not unprecedented, I'm just saying it could've happened on the same scale as an MGMT. james is right though w/r/t AP's actual skillset and abilities and likely inability to cope with / manage a huge boost in popularity.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:07 (six years ago) link
but MGMT have never had anything close to an American top forty hit.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:17 (six years ago) link