Panda Bear- Person Pitch

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Boomkat review kind of confirms my feelings about this...

I’m not trying to say ‘Person Pitch’ is devastatingly original, rather that Panda Bear has done what so many other fail to do; take an encyclopaedic musical knowledge and translate that into genuinely great fresh compositions. This sentiment is even echoed right down to the album’s packaging which instead of giving you the usual bland liner notes/lyrics/praise be to the creator crap shows you a giant list of influences ranging from minimal techno to dub, to hip hop, to kraut-rock and beyond and you know, if you listen carefully you can hear it all. The first thing that comes up when people begin chattering about Lennox’s productions is Brian Wilson, and that’s an apt comparison at surface level, but listen a little closer and you’ll hear Kraftwerk, Autechre, John Lennon, Lee Perry, Stockhausen, Timbaland, Konono No.1, Arvo Part and so much more.

it's actually really pretty nice as well, but I can't shake the notion that in the end, it's little more than the musical equivalent of a magic-eye picture :/

I get the impression they're (this and AC) heaps of fun to write about, and that they're good at firing peoples own imaginations, but I'm sort of sceptical about how much weight any of it carries musically. I do really like it all as an art project though... maybe I'll find my way in to it on a bit deeper level eventually.

― fandango, Friday, 23 March 2007 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

"like it as an art project, but it's underwhelming as music" could be my motto though frankly, considering how much ILM (and IRL) endorsed stuff provokes that sort of mild disinclination and not-quite-enthusiasm feeling in me this decade...

― fandango, Friday, 23 March 2007 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

through "bros," this album is awes - thats as far as i am

― 69, Friday, 23 March 2007 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

This has grown on me (not to a 9.4 though!) I think you have to be a really inured indie person for the "dance" & repetitious stuff in here to actually feel in any way relevant though :/ that angle on it really doesn't grab my ear as much as I'd like...

"musical equivalent of a magic-eye picture" ok, I think what I'm trying to say is this record would appeal to just about anyone, but in a weird way that let's everybody take an entirely different impression home of what it's got going on. It's kind of an interesting trick. Also, it is really, really pleasant and nice for sure... I sort of find that's as far as it goes w/r/t my emotional response though. I wish it got under my skin a little more, I mean, yeah it's sunshiney but it's no "Aerial" is it?

― fandango, Monday, 26 March 2007 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

does anyone fancy transcribing the liner notes? i'd love to read the list of influences.

― rio natsume, Monday, 26 March 2007 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

how can you people complain these songs are too long. get with the fuckin program fellas.

― artdamages, Monday, 26 March 2007 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

wait, there is gonna be an animal collective box set? thats a must have.

― artdamages, Monday, 26 March 2007 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

wait, there is gonna be an animal collective box set? i need that. i think box sets are going to be the only cds i buy anymore.

― artdamages, Monday, 26 March 2007 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

It's good but I need a few more listens. I love "Ponytail" instantly btw.

― zeus, Monday, 26 March 2007 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

does anyone fancy transcribing the liner notes? i'd love to read the list of influences.

you really could just buy a copy y'know

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=56837#unread

― Milton Parker, Monday, 26 March 2007 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

not to be a hypocrite -- I've downloaded tons, even if it hasn't impacted my spending -- but sometimes it seems like liner notes are the one remaining perk left of throwing your money down

― Milton Parker, Monday, 26 March 2007 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

"omg Ned, u r such a namedropper"

not as Panda Bear himself: whats the deal with this list?
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/iyiiki/panda_bears_person_pitch_list/

― Zeno, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

it's a good list

apologies to rio m for my shitfit yesterday, that other ILM thread had really gotten me down

― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

Ha! I heard some Police in the vocals, and now I see that list.

― zeus, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

hey no worries man, i kinda forgot that you can still buy cds tbh. yr shitfit inspired me to buy it anyway. i guess the list is kinda like a less obscure nurse list for 07 or something

― rio natsume, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

sample source list?

― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

wow, this record is a treat.

maybe it helps though that i don't listen to music like this very much (techno having consumed my life ala trees)

― jergïns, Monday, 2 April 2007 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha I came to post the same thing exactly as jergins.

but it really is a thing of wondrous beauty.

― Tim F, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

I got over this pretty fast to be honest :-/

I found the melodies & harmonies very addictive, but otherwise it's sort of unengaging. The songs don't add up to a great deal, though they are very nice. The loops and sonic backing kind of bug me. First few plays I thought it was really inventive but after not too long before it just sounded like one long ever-rolling tickertape of bitty-ness.

A lot of reviews have been making comparisons to dance music in the way it's created.. but frankly, I don't hear much that's on the same level of interest (to me) or commitment here.

It's ok though, definitely better than a lot of other things!

― fandango, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

i hate to make a typical cynical anti-pitchfork comment but i feel like hardly anyone would care about this album without that glowing pitchfork review. i had just looked at it the day before the review on amazon and it was something like #930 in overall sales, and the day of the pitchfork review it shot up to around #250.

― Reatards Unite, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

"Bros" is fantastic. The rest is only ok for me. It's certainly not terrible, but like a lot of the animal collective stuff just strikes me as ok.

Also, I get so confused everytime I click on this thread and see that picture in the first post. What the hell is that? What is happening there? Jesus it's distracting.

― mcddcm, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

It an okay CD. After the first couple of cuts it falls off a bit. I was going to post something silly about ghosts of Beach Boys past but then thought better of it. I didn't want to come off like Simon Reynolds and the Junior Hauntology crew. Mostly it just makes me want to play Pet Sounds.

― leavethecapital, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

"hardly anyone would care about this album without that glowing pitchfork review"

yeah animal collective barely has any fans. good thing pitchfork is around to boost PB into the top 300 of web sales.

― dmr, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

Agree with the disagree about interest in this being some kind of Pitchfork artifact. Pitchfork may focus attention, boost sales for a week, but writing all interest in this record off to PF's supposedly massive commercial influence is just lazy. Buzz was there before the review appeared. Songs seem to be selling folks on their own.

― Pye Poudre, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

Compare dates of early comments on this thread with date Pitchfork review appeared.

― M.V., Wednesday, 4 April 2007 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

ilx certainly hasn't had animal collective threads for almost five years now

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

The only Pitchfork reviews which get charged with influencing ILM are reviews written by ILXors anyway (not mine - Mark's, Jess's, Dominique's, Philip's etc.)

― Tim F, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

i'm surprised nobody has drawn the obvious di comparisons yet

― rio natsume, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

DI?
http://www.midi-classics.com/i/p30660.jpg

― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

DI?
http://myspace-374.vo.llnwd.net/00806/47/38/806988374_thumb1.jpg

― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

i mean much of it sounds alot like "a night on the tiles" (is that the one i mean? the swing jazz loop one (art of actual forgetfulness)) but with beach boys vocals, and the whole samples as narrative vehicle thing that ian crause used to talk about is kind of implicit (though i haven't listened/cranked it hard enough yet to notice). xp.

― rio natsume, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 22:41 (nineteen years ago)

nice

― blueski, Thursday, 5 April 2007 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

i'm surprised nobody has drawn the obvious di comparisons yet

I've been thinking more that this was the type of album that an indie type would create because the Avalanches hadn't released a second album.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 April 2007 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

the beach boys vibe/aura puts me in mind of wild honey or friends more than the stone cold Brian classics like Pet Sounds; for me, it's the first BB-flavoured modern alb that comes anywhere near to matching the vocals/songwriting/vibe of the post-Smile recs, and the mantras and repetitions and samples evoke devotional sunshine bliss w/out being explicitly 'religious' - v clever and beautiful

― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 5 April 2007 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

The cover. Really. My fave album cover of 2007.

― Capitaine Jay Vee, Thursday, 12 April 2007 10:15 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

I like this live download thing more than Person Pitch. More beats!

― mizzell, Thursday, 7 June 2007 01:37 (nineteen years ago)

what live download thing? (this is my album of the year so far btw)

― braveclub, Thursday, 7 June 2007 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

Paw Tracks is selling a live show from 2004 on itunes. it's got a couple of the songs from PP and two other ones. It's shorter than the album.

― mizzell, Thursday, 7 June 2007 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

four weeks pass...

I had a spell of loving this...then not listening to ages. I waited to get the vinyl and finally scored it last week...it's blowing me away more than it ever did.

I suffer from sleep difficulties, I average 4ish hours per night...when I go into work at 9am with the first three tracks off Person Pitch on my headphones, I feel like I could wrestle an elephant and win.

― Mister Craig, Thursday, 5 July 2007 00:42 (eighteen years ago)

does the vinyl sound as trebly/tinny as the cd? or is that his "aesthetic?" the Jane <i>Berserker</i> cd sounds the same way. i was thinking of buying the vinyl...

― nerve_pylon, Thursday, 5 July 2007 02:43 (eighteen years ago)

er, i mean Berserker

― nerve_pylon, Thursday, 5 July 2007 02:44 (eighteen years ago)

where can one find the vinyl?

― Preview of the Matrix 12, Sunday, 8 July 2007 01:13 (eighteen years ago)

here

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 8 July 2007 01:24 (eighteen years ago)

oh.

― Preview of the Matrix 12, Sunday, 8 July 2007 01:44 (eighteen years ago)

i find track 3 on the "people ep" to be weirdly melancholy, even if it does sound like a chorus of deaf horses.

― the next grozart, Sunday, 8 July 2007 02:40 (eighteen years ago)

five months pass...

album of the year?

― Moka, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 05:22 (eighteen years ago)

If you wish it, it is no dream.

― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 09:08 (eighteen years ago)

I agree with everything Ned says on this thread.

― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 09:15 (eighteen years ago)

thrilling revive.

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 18 December 2007 09:18 (eighteen years ago)

I agree with Ned aussi.

― W4LTER, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 09:26 (eighteen years ago)

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