Music Criticism in Video Form

how about R&M? a hit show where a running joke is the lead character commits genocide and its justified because he is smarter than all the idiots

Idk if rick is shown to be justified...

Huge self-own to make this thread about clowning vlogger dorks about defending Rick & Morty

I assume you probably lean a little alt-right if you've ever watched more than one episode of Rick & Morty

well you're kind of a moron so that don't surprise me

"everyone here is old. but shit, you can draw a straight line from a lot of this shit back to chris morris, jerry sadowitz... lenny bruce"

people have sold me old national lampoons at the store and after not seeing them since i was a kid i was kinda stunned at how angry and full of misogyny and racism they are. like really really really mean and beyond over the top. and not isolated stuff. entire issues. and i used to buy them when i was a kid at the supermarket! my parents had no idea. just some good old fashioned ivy league white guy lols. totally reminds me of the worst internet stuff.

i don't wanna feed this sidetrack but what exactly is altright about rick and morty

How is that not feeding the sidetrack?

scott otm this shit ain't new

well you're kind of a moron so that don't surprise me

― frogbs, Friday, October 6, 2017 12:12 PM (forty-five seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the dude out here defending RYM and Rick and Morty, watching The Orville, posting all over Zappa and TBMG and Magic the Gathering and Norm MacDonald threads, writing treatises on vaporwave... you may want to take a look at the people in your immediate circle there, dogg

Going back to Maura's point, I don't often worry that people aren't seeing the differences I'm seeing between things like the better episodes of South Park/Your Pretty Face/Rick and Morty and the worst episodes of South Park/MDE/the bad Tim and Eric stuff because I don't often discuss those shows with other people; in a vacuum, everyone is interpreting them the same way I am (particularly since the people I do sporadically talk to about them view them the same way I do). That isn't giving me a clear picture of how they're actually going over in the wider culture.

i don't wanna feed this sidetrack but what exactly is altright about rick and morty

― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, October 6, 2017 12:14 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The Venn Diagram between "smug nerd 'fandom'" and "calling women cunts on Twitter" gets closer to a circle every day.

+ oh cool someone agrees w/ me about r&m
- it's whiney (j/k dude)

lol

idk if I really buy Whiney's guilt-by-association treatise there cuz um a bunch of those things are not like the others (TMBG? wtf)

BAZINGA

the dude out here defending RYM and Rick and Morty, watching The Orville, posting all over Zappa and TBMG and Magic the Gathering and Norm MacDonald threads, writing treatises on vaporwave... you may want to take a look at the people in your immediate circle there, dogg

oh please do unpack this for me and point out who in my "immediate circle" is leaning alt-right because a non cosmic-brain genius like myself isn't quite so good at discerning stuff like that out of a post like "I watched 20 minutes of the Orville and didn't get the point of it"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow-nuHCTA5E

Vaporwave is alt right?

"I watched 20 minutes of the Orville"

― frogbs, Friday, October 6, 2017 12:27 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the dude out here defending RYM and Rick and Morty, watching The Orville, posting all over Zappa and TBMG and Magic the Gathering and Norm MacDonald threads, writing treatises on vaporwave... you may want to take a look at the people in your immediate circle there, dogg

― Whiney G. Weingarten

whiney, i'm glad you've managed to reorient this thread to what it really needs to be about: killing all the nerds.

It's kind of fitting that this thread would devolve into white dudes playing "who's the real racist here?"

If everything is problematic then nothing is problematic

also lmao that the dude who draws a paycheck for rushing out clickbait like "The 50 Greatest Tom Petty Songs: The Definitive Guide" is now clowning on someone for using RYM

Yes, it's definitely NOT nerds who are out here writing treatises about how women shouldn't work in tech, and building Uber apps that make taxi drivers sleep in grocery store parking lots so white weekend warriors can earn some more Xbox money, and propping up/funding systems like Google and Facebook and Twitter that basically escorted a white nationalist into the white house. Yeah, better defend these people right away!

do they listen to TMBG though

some of the more reflexively cognisant vaporwave is sheerly brilliant and necessary. some is bad-creepy. sometimes it's hard to tell which is which at first, although I set my vaporwave standards high which tends to weed out the nefarious shit

for some reason r&m gives me the creeps where something like south park doesn't. maybe it comes down to personal aesthetic choice, maybe it's because parker and stone for all their outrageousness have an obvious moral centre*. but is it old paradigm to have morals idek any more

*if someone wants to argue r&m has morals rather than endless nihilistic anguish then be my guest

This isn't a nerd problem. This is a white people problem.

Stop blaming your sub-tribal affiliations for your across-the-board shittiness.

because parker and stone for all their outrageousness have an obvious moral centre*

lol no they don't

This isn't a nerd problem. This is a white people problem.

*ding ding ding*

people of color and women can also be nerds, they just tend to not be these assholes but the ones whose lives are directly affected

literally every subgroup dominated by white people manifests racist tendencies when put into positions of power
literally every subgroup dominated by men manifests sexist tendencies when put into positions of power
literally every subgroup dominated by heterosexuals manifests homophobic tendencies when put into positions of power

are you seeing a pattern here yet or do you want to keep pretending that getting rid of all the software engineers will bring about social utopia

nah, you're right,

i'm just less right. http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

you just get "nerds" being used as part of the online army. if it was a strictly nerd issue you wouldn't have a Trump presidency that has made america a safe space for opinions and platforms and policy decisions that would have been a bit more career-ruining in times past (though maybe not as much as we'd like to imagine, tbh.)

that buzzfeed story is crucial bc you can see how calculated it all is, how it actually crosses political lines and involves purportedly liberal white dudes, all of whom are pushing back against everyone else as they feel their power slipping.

xp: If this whole sidetrack was just a setup so you could make that joke, I'm hopping a bus so I can punch you in the arm

literally every subgroup dominated by white people manifests racist tendencies when put into positions of power
literally every subgroup dominated by men manifests sexist tendencies when put into positions of power
literally every subgroup dominated by heterosexuals manifests homophobic tendencies when put into positions of power

are you seeing a pattern here yet or do you want to keep pretending that getting rid of all the software engineers will bring about social utopia

― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Friday, 6 October 2017 16:49 (five minutes ago) Permalink

so the problem isn't whiteness, men, or heteronormativity.. it's power?

great thread

I've completely lost track of the debate here. Can somebody sum this all up?

Hopefully in a video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkUxFB6jbDc

Upper Mississippi, Katherine and djp OTM, many of the rest of you not so much to are you fucking kidding me

i don't wanna feed this sidetrack but what exactly is altright about rick and morty

isn't his entire thing stating outright that most people are inconvenient and it's fine to dispose of them because you are biologically superior

Won't someone please think of the man-children?

I had to google Rick and Morty. It didn't help.

lol Evan

I love how half this thread is "actually it's about ethics in music criticism in video form" gtfo of here with that nonsense, guys a fucking racist, fuck him, end of story

I've never really watched Fantano's videos, is he legit alt-right or is it a Whiney-esque "he's crypto alt-right because he likes TMBG/Magic the Gathering/other nerd stuff" type thing?

i recommend you read the article that kicked off this discussion http://www.thefader.com/2017/10/03/needle-drop-deleted-youtube-channel-this-is-the-plan

i recommend you read the article that kicked off this discussion http://www.thefader.com/2017/10/03/needle-drop-deleted-youtube-channel-this-is-the-plan

― Erotic Wolf (crüt)

and then ignore everything subsequent to it unless you are interested in debating whether or not magic: the gathering is a gateway drug to fascism

can we please light this thread on fire and burn it