Van Halen C/D?

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Hmm, post DLR? Well, during DLR is was non-stop weed, alcohol and cocaine, for everyone involved, with Michael maybe they least worst off and Alex the worst. Eddie and Alex's father was an alcoholic and they took after him on that front; it scans that in Alex's case, the cocaine mostly made the effects of the alcohol abuse worse - he would do cocaine to stay up to drink more - and in Eddie, maybe the cocaine was the bigger problem, but mostly financially. In DLR's case, neither drugs nor alcohol seem to be a problem, per se, but he was also very physically fit. Post DLR, iirc from the Hagar book, alcohol becomes a huge problem for the Van Halen brothers. At a certain point Alex is just downing bottle after bottle, with a trash can next to his drum set to barf in, and Eddie goes through long stretches of incapacitation. Hagar claims he generally avoided the worst excesses until closer to the end of his tenure, when he dives full in to the worse rock can offer. But Eddie and Alex, they've really got problems that the other dudes don't seem to have. The Hagar book "Red" makes the VH bros sound impossible to deal with.

There are lots of stories, btw, of those early tours opening up for first Ronnie Montrose (solo) and Journey, then later late '70s Black Sabbath. Van Halen apparently got along famously with the Sabbath dudes, even though their crowds were super different (and indulgences on a totally different level).

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 September 2017 01:34 (six years ago) link

Hilarious. I wish I could have been a fly on the wall when ozzy met DLR.

calstars, Monday, 25 September 2017 01:37 (six years ago) link

I think Ozzy knew his time had passed, but then, VH was blowing everyone away. There's some throwaway line somewhere in there about Tom Scholz needing to prove his guitar mettle in the face of Eddie's revolutionary onslaught. Tony Iommi, on the other hand, EVH really respected, even if it's unclear whether he felt threatened by this young virtuoso.

Other takeaways. DLR is pretty smart, the rest of the band less so, but all four are shockingly naive about so many basic things. Like, facts of life things. EVH in particular is just this strange myopic creature who is just constantly toting around his guitar, taking it apart, rebuilding it, and so on, yet almost completely unaware of the world around him. I've heard him claim he stopped paying attention to music not long after Hendrix and Clapton, and I believe him.

Oh! Also shocked to learn that EVH did the "Beat It" appearance for free, refusing payment or points, just because he liked MJ.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 September 2017 01:45 (six years ago) link

Myopic is a perfect word to describe EVH. What would he and his bro have done if they weren't into music?

calstars, Monday, 25 September 2017 01:57 (six years ago) link

Also lol at David being the smartest one, which seems true, but then this is the same guy who got busted in Washington square park for trying to score weed.

calstars, Monday, 25 September 2017 01:58 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

Do we love Crystal Gravy?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 February 2018 03:29 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Van Halen III is 20 years old. Consequently (and for money), I listened to it all the way through for the first time ever.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 16 March 2018 20:11 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

I know there must be tons of stuff out there like this, but I'd never thought to listen to it. Here's a boot of Van Halen live in 1975, the cover-band era:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gMGh0RmOxw

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 July 2019 13:08 (four years ago) link

And then, just a mere three years later, opening for Sabbath (I think) but pretty much fully formed and full of originals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxfysrDRhpw

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 July 2019 13:10 (four years ago) link

That Gene Genie in the first video is great. Also, DLR sounds just like Jeff Spicoli.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Saturday, 13 July 2019 13:22 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Last night I dreamed that I was auditioning to be the drummer for Van Halen but Alex was there too. He asked me where my drums were and I said I didn’t have any so I asked if I could borrow his. He gave me a beat up snare top with a bent up rim and told me not to play it too hard. I hit it twice and it tore apart.

calstars, Friday, 11 October 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link


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