Is THE LODGER David Bowie's best record?

I'd need more details but I'm pretty sure that a remix isn't necessary.

According to the liner notes Bowie heard and emphatically approved at least three tracks, it doesn't actually say if he lived to hear the rest, they were working on Blackstar at roughly the same time.

Also it seems like it's not a completely radical remix but not exactly a subtle tweak either.

Actually thinking about it, Lodger is probably the Bowie album that's aged the best.

Actually thinking about it, Lodger is probably the Bowie album that's aged the best.

i have never had to think about it.
and yeah, its supposed to be a subtle touch up i.e. remove some of the clutter
but ... i like the clutter.
its the clutter that makes the album different and brilliant.

Otm

fantastic voyage is one of the best bowie songs ever

For some reason, I don't think this is really a good idea, although it's kinda well known that Visconti has always been dissatisfied with the way that Lodger turned out. Of course, I'm going to listen to it and A-B it as much as any Bowie fan will, but I don't think re-working it is necessary.

If there's any Bowie album I'd like to see re-mixed/re-worked, it's probably hours...

'Fantastic Voyage' has fucked me up every time I've heard it since November. Feels way too on-the-nose.

Yeah, it's definitely one that's had a lot of power recently... particularly over the last couple of years!

It was mentioned just upthread, but in case anyone missed it, Shearwater have done a great cover of the whole album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk4Z7OhpXyw&list=PLbbmBIT_TF6njuC-2IbUiBxom8UxKJdLv

Sorry, that didn't seem to work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk4Z7OhpXyw

Iirc The band said they had been planning to include a song by song cover of Lodger in their set during their last tour before Bowie died, which is crazy.

Yeah that's how it went.

Goddamn anagram, thanks for sharing that. Never heard any Shearwater - that performance is really really impressive
They're clearly having a blast doing it. Goosebumps.

New Visconti remix of Lodger on the A New Career In A New Town box is a revealing curio, as these things usually are - Eno backing vox on "African Night Flight" are particularly interesting...

But man, "Red Sails" done got ruined.

What’s the new box? Diamond dogs through lodger?

https://www.discogs.com/David-Bowie-A-New-Career-In-A-New-Town-1977-1982/master/1244579

(Low through Scary Monsters)

Oh did they already do a box for DD-STS?

these shearwater covers are fantastic.

i enjoy the reversed vocal simulation in move on

No, it's a chaos.

ha I couldn't tell. I thought he might have doing it all himself.

*might have been

no chaos pad required in that scramble

can we change this thread title for the love of god?!?!?!?!!!1111

end the shame of the single word i shouldn't have typed on ilx

Change thread title to THE

Is Roomers Davewood MacBowie's Best Record?

'Roombas' by Fleetwood Vac.

thread title always reminds me of this... from the john peel quotes thread:

As Sonic Youth's "Silver Rocket" fades out..
"I love the way they come romping in with all that feedback in the middle - just like The Pink Floyd."

― everything, Tuesday, October 26, 2004 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Need a companion thread: Is LODGER Alfred Hitchcock's best film?

this thread title is legendary, never change imo

it says literally everyone is fallible, including the person i tend to think isn't

I Agree with Alex in New York: Sure, Lodger is cool and all, but Diamond Dogs is a much more interesting record...and a helluvalot more fun.

― Lord Custos, Saturday, May 11, 2002 8:00 PM

yeah no

this has been a great episode of the lodgers

Lodger is way better than diamond dogs..DD is one of my least favourites aside from 1984

Oh Shearwaters cover is alltime, what is the song where the mic stand collapses? One of my favorite performances for capturing the spirit of a performance. I think he said like "everyone was going so hard and right, I couldn't stop."

Now I'm listening to my rip, I think it's Red Sails.

Nope Look Back in Anger for sure. Sorry, I love the hell out of this and still forgot.

Fuck they rule imo, tho I'm a bit up and down on their discography.

this thread title is legendary, never change imo

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, September 29, 2017 2:26 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's of a piece with are "tim machine" the best thing david bowie ?

Visconti's new mix is...interesting. Lots of little background things are now clearly audible and some things that used to fight for space with Bowie's vocals (i.e Belew's guitar) have been toned down. Sucks the bass/low end seems murky and way too boosted but Dennis Davis is nicely prominent on some of the tracks. What a beast of a drummer.

irl lol at are "tim machine" the best thing david bowie ?

suddenly he break into mouth singing
"time machine! time machine!".

Lodger is great but honestly Bowie has at least 5-6 albums that are wall to wall classic and all in different ways picking just one seem impossible

Kinda weird to see Scary Monsters tacked onto the Berlin trilogy.. Kinda puts a cap on the classic era i guess. I'd love a straight up Berlin trilogy box with studio detritus and stuff..

Well firstly, "Berlin trilogy" has always been a bit of a stupid name for those three albums, and secondly I don't see that period of Bowie's work as being confined to just those three albums. For me, Station to Station up to Scary Monsters is the run. Low and "Heroes" are often cited as being an influence on post-punk/new wave/new romantic, but Station to Station's paranoid funk was just as influential. I can particularly hear Station to Station as being an influence on the likes of Telekon and Empires and Dance.

Yeah I think of station to station through scary monsters as a group

Eno trilogy then.

wow totally disagree, what's "stupid" about it, though?