Obviously it's influenced by the revelations about his behavior but I find a lot John Phillips's "John the Wolf King of LA" disturbing - the unrelenting mellow tunefulness with occasional suggestions that something awful is going on (esp "Let it Bleed Genevieve"). It sounds like someone who's just so constantly fucked up that he's oblivious to the fact that he's become a sociopathic junkie.
― JoeStork, Friday, 22 September 2017 17:15 (eight years ago)
Parallelograms has been kind to me on weed, Ross :)
Hearing 'Automatic Writing' by Robert Ashley on the radio when my guard was down was a very unsettling experience, but that wasn't recreated the second time I willfully put it on.
With things like Coil, Current 93 (the girl screaming DEAD on 'All the pretty horses' gave me a right scare) and NWW, you pretty much know what you are going to get though. The surprise disturbance appeals more to me, narrative wise. Where you least expect it. Or, in Scott Walker's case, unthinkably whack.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 22 September 2017 17:39 (eight years ago)
uh what radio station was that
― frogbs, Friday, 22 September 2017 17:45 (eight years ago)
I forgot about The Conet Project, I have that stuff on my computer which means I've got about 5 hours of number towers recordings that I barely listen to but don't want to get rid of either. The worst part is that people sample it fairly often, so that stuff could pop up in your music collection at any point. It took me a while but I eventually noticed a Conet Project sample on a Plus-Tech Squeezebox song of all things, which was a real oh shit moment.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 22 September 2017 17:50 (eight years ago)
Lol, deserved question. A Dutch classical station that had an experimental avant-garde show on Sunday night for two hours. I was driving a van moving to a new house when a student. I didn't know they had this show on Sunday night, thought it was all just classical. It was crazy. But lead to me listening to it religiously for years (it's now defunct).
xp
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 22 September 2017 17:51 (eight years ago)
can't think of too many songs that freak me out to the point where I never want to listen to them but Ween's "Spinal Meningitis" is one, which is strange b/c I remember someone telling me that they thought that song was hilarious in how cruel it was
"Devil's Triangle" by King Crimson always used to do it though. it sounds like the mellotron is being butchered as it goes on. man were they able to coax some ugly sounds out of that thing.
― frogbs, Friday, 22 September 2017 17:54 (eight years ago)
Listening to 22 Going On 23 is a good way to get a taste of what being clinically depressed feels like if you've never experienced it
― paolo, Friday, 22 September 2017 17:58 (eight years ago)
It was probably on ILM, I remember discussing that song before. I don't think that song is disturbing or hilarious or (wtf) cruel fwiw.
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Friday, 22 September 2017 18:03 (eight years ago)
Slapp Happy - Freedom
(with that spine destroying scream)
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 22 September 2017 18:11 (eight years ago)
possibly more cathartic than disturbing though
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 22 September 2017 18:12 (eight years ago)
*art bears i mean
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 22 September 2017 18:13 (eight years ago)
How many songs have proper jump scares? Like that horrible scream at the end of The Cure's Subway Song.
― MaresNest, Friday, 22 September 2017 18:36 (eight years ago)
xxxp nah it was a friend of mine who is probably even more into Ween than I am. it's a polarizing tune but they play it every show so I guess their fans mostly like it.
― frogbs, Friday, 22 September 2017 18:38 (eight years ago)
How many songs have proper jump scares?
"Cautious Lip" by Blondie. Debbie's scream caught me unawares a few times.
― "Celebration" encourages the listener to celebrate good times. (Dan Peterson), Friday, 22 September 2017 18:45 (eight years ago)
am brainstorming this. will also listen to these choices and vote, eventually
Immortal Technique - Dance With The DevilFoetus - Kreibabe (tt: "This isn't disturbing, this is just edgy crap!")Murcof - Oort (you want jump scares? you want COSMIC jump scares?)KTL - ThemeR.D. Laing - ElevenJudy Henske & Jerry Yester - FarewellPortishead - Half Day Closing The Cure - The Drowning ManGiles Corey - The Haunting Presence
A couple from this year:
Jute Gyte - Oviri (the track) Bedwetter aka Lil Ugly Mane - Haze Of Interference (his track Intent And Purulent Discharge as LUM from 2015 was also terrifying)
― imago, Friday, 22 September 2017 19:44 (eight years ago)
> How many songs have proper jump scares?
pale saints - colour of the skymercury rev - that early, long b-side of car wash hair.
― koogs, Friday, 22 September 2017 19:54 (eight years ago)
the Peel session version of Everybody Is Dead by Microdisney (which, unlike the album version, ends with Cathal Coughlan screaming "I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU") nearly gave me a heart attack the first time I heard to it (via ipod headphones, half asleep on a bus travelling to work at about 6.30 in the morning)
https://youtu.be/gnbbG4Pd-0U
that sudden jarring fanfare on Into the Night by Julee Cruise on the Twin Peaks soundtrack album made me jump a few times
― soref, Friday, 22 September 2017 20:00 (eight years ago)
there's a proper horrible jump scare at the end of The Cure's Subway Song.
― piscesx, Friday, 22 September 2017 20:16 (eight years ago)
I suppose I'm not easily disturbed. There is a style of music that is made up of high-pitched electronic sounds that is very painful for me to listen to. I believe a lot of the artists or musicians are from Japan. I tried Googling the genre to no avail.
I actually quite like The Tower Recordings and some mid-tone noise and ambient, I find it oddly relaxing. It's the extreme frequencies and pitches that I find very painful and, therefore, disturbing.
Also, sliding up and down octaves and pitches very fast and often is also slightly painful or disturbing to my ears (e.g., Penderecki, Stockhausen, etc.).
― the sound of space, Friday, 22 September 2017 20:18 (eight years ago)
Good jump scare on the Swans 'Blind Love' off Children of God iirc
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 22 September 2017 20:25 (eight years ago)
There's a weird Exorcist or something parody at the end of Brad's Shame which put the shits up me the first time I heard it, dropping off to sleep.
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 22 September 2017 20:30 (eight years ago)
Is "the sound of space" the same user as "the tune is space" ie D.D.?
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 22 September 2017 20:36 (eight years ago)
holy shit daredevil is an ilxor?
― Mr. Eulon Mask, urging the UN to ban the "homicide robot" (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 22 September 2017 20:36 (eight years ago)
pj harvey "Taut"
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 22 September 2017 20:38 (eight years ago)
"even the son of God had to die my darrrrrrlin"
― MaresNest, Friday, 22 September 2017 20:42 (eight years ago)
"You Better Run" by Junior Kimbrough
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 22 September 2017 20:47 (eight years ago)
Le Bateau Ivre, I don't know the user "the tune is space" or D.D.
So, unless he or she has magically possessed my body or keyboard without my knowledge, it's fairly safe to say I am not that user.
― the sound of space, Friday, 22 September 2017 21:56 (eight years ago)
Pre- the escape, the cockfighter was the scott walker jump scare tune
Comparison of the former with the man behind winkies is a good one for a few reasons inc daftness and the capacity to unsettle even after multiple listens/watches when you know what's coming
― good art is orange; great art is teal (wins), Friday, 22 September 2017 22:06 (eight years ago)
don't get why 'the escape' over 'clara'
― imago, Friday, 22 September 2017 22:07 (eight years ago)
the donald duck voice surely
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 22 September 2017 22:08 (eight years ago)
Obviously.
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Friday, 22 September 2017 22:09 (eight years ago)
the escape song is weird because Donald Duck is saying something Bugs Bunny says, accompanied by wrangled slide FX that sound imported from Looney Tunes
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 22 September 2017 22:10 (eight years ago)
I listened to that song today because I'm not that familiar with that album but I knew there was a song with Donald Duck on it and I thought "The Escape" was probably it - I still almost leapt out of my chair.
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Friday, 22 September 2017 22:12 (eight years ago)
'clara' is the better & more disturbing piece imo but i shan't list its virtues
― imago, Friday, 22 September 2017 22:12 (eight years ago)
It doesn't have Donald Duck on it though.
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Friday, 22 September 2017 22:13 (eight years ago)
I think Clara is a better song overall but that bit in The Escape is more terrifying.
― Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 22 September 2017 22:51 (eight years ago)
No Penderecki?
― calstars, Friday, 22 September 2017 22:54 (eight years ago)
The Cockfighter is great too and always reminds me of this post of yore:
uh, the first time i listened to Scott Walker's "Tilt" was with my friend whose last musical obsession was Bobby McFerrin. after enduring all his "what is this shit?" and "This sounds like The Phantom of the Opera on crack" comments during the first track, i convinced him to give at least the next track "the cockfighter" a shot. anyway, after turning the volume way up during the first minute or so of indescript mumbling and shuffling noises, we were then blown away by the screaming locust wall of yell and chaos around a minute and a half. we both started screaming, the car started swerving, we almost got into an accident, we had to pull over, and i was never allowed to put another cd on in his car.
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― Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 22 September 2017 22:54 (eight years ago)
Onkyo! - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onkyokei. Can be quite painful, although nowhere near Maryanne Amacher levels. Speaking of which, she gets my vote for actually giving me a panic attack while listening to her Tzadik CD on headphones, due to the frequencies making my inner ear oscillate in an unexpected manner. I forget which piece it was and haven't dared listen again.
― めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Friday, 22 September 2017 23:52 (eight years ago)
this hilarious one was always my favorite from the extreme music comp:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdTS7YDvLBY
didn't know it was its own genre though.
― Philip Nunez, Saturday, 23 September 2017 00:09 (eight years ago)
"need" from kathy heideman's "move with love" also seems disturbing to me
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Saturday, 23 September 2017 01:59 (eight years ago)
vibing up the senile man is pretty awesome, just dudes shouting and ranting against "eerie" noises and stuff
the Maurizio Bianchi stuff I heard on Spotify was excellent, just these reverberating muffled explosion sounds bouncing around, cool as hell
― brimstead, Saturday, 23 September 2017 02:03 (eight years ago)
lol I was gonna post my anecdote about The Cockfighter but I see Gavin has already quoted a post I did about it 11 years ago. nice.
― methanietanner, Saturday, 23 September 2017 03:01 (eight years ago)
100% I think the work of modernist/micropolyphonicists like Ligeti and Penderecki is meant to be religious, that is, comfort music, I'm always amazed at when like Lynch uses this music as a signifier for "DISTURBING!" because the collection of pure acoustic pitches and sound walls just feels to me like gazing into a telescope or reading about Calvinism
Similarly, even though Scott Walker set out to create The Most Disturbing Recorded Piece Of Music Ever with "The Escape"-- and he succeeded-- I don't find anything particularly disturbing about the goosebumps and scare-moments that that song has and will still elicit, it's the aural equivalent of a perfect horror movie and there is nothing disturbing about a piece of music that successfully elicits the emotional sensations the author has attempted to elicit, even if those emotions are "fear"
Surprised that Berg isn't on this list, the final couple scene of Wozzeck are the best examples of "music designed to disturb"
Frankie Teardrop to me is just like a fun roller coaster wheeeee my emotions
What disturbs me I guess is music that makes the very act of music-making and music-listening seem cultureless, and futile, an extension of nationalistic jingoism (patriotic country music), co-opting of political text (nu Katy Perry), exhibitions of laziness-as-depth or personal-anecdote-as-artist-statement (William Basinski)
The most disturbing piece of music in my world is Cat Stevens' "Wild World" I think, or maybe "Party In The USA" or something from Rent. Of this list, I'm voting Magnetic Fields "I Thought You Were My Boyfriend" for the big lie that is that band, and how depressed it makes me about homosexuality and gay culture and New York City and money.
― fgti, Saturday, 23 September 2017 03:16 (eight years ago)
The most disturbing piece of music I've ever encountered was a 2nd-year composition student who was telling me about a piece he'd had performed where one of the movements in this otherwise straightforward non-postmodern exercise was free of content, that the 4th movement was simply left blank, and he was telling me about this piece and it was horrifying to view the expectation of a reaction on his face, and made me feel awful about the musicians he'd had to have put through that ordeal
Oh also Schnittke "Symphony #1" because that asshole wanted to "reconcile pop music and serious music if it killed him" and so he assembled a collection of vignettes of the entire history of 20th century music to be performed by a symphony in a concert hall, removing all history and context of all these genres and museum-ing them for a starched and seated crowd, that is the death of everything I've enjoyed in life and if Alfred wasn't dead I'd probably murder him for making a piece as disturbing and misguided and sociopathic as that piece of music
― fgti, Saturday, 23 September 2017 03:22 (eight years ago)
when it comes to the john phillips thing of "songs by musicians who also happened to be genuinely wicked people", there's bruce haack's "haackula". maybe he wasn't a child molester but whatever he did people aren't willing to talk about, and whenever stuff like that happens i just wind up assuming "child molester", especially since "haackula" is a really messed up album. graham bond was also a child molester, but none of his satan stuff like "love is the law" comes off as evil or disturbing or anything like that, and i think it's a mistake to draw too close an association there. like people think gesualdo's music is "disturbing" because he butchered his wife (actually he made his servants do most of the work, which is a little bit more disturbing than if he'd killed her personally), but from what i can tell it's more that the diatonic system wasn't established yet and that freaks people out.
when i first heard the last couple scenes of "wozzeck" i just thought it was badass. but i was much younger then.
i'm not disturbed by schnittke's first symphony, i just don't like it. i guess i'd be more disturbed if it worked. i like his "concerto for choir" all right.
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Saturday, 23 September 2017 03:27 (eight years ago)
Oh god Schnittke makes me want to find a job vacuuming up the ashes of human remains, I hate him so much. Conductor solos? A sophomoric knowledge of How Harmony Works so that all his pomo bullshit is not just evil, but badly made also? The fact that every string quartet in the world stans for his bullshit non-pomo work and talk about him to impress you? I want to die
― fgti, Saturday, 23 September 2017 03:30 (eight years ago)
I'm meditating right now breathing in "Charles" and breathing out "Ives" because I need some respite rn
― fgti, Saturday, 23 September 2017 03:32 (eight years ago)
otm
rushomancy also otm re: bruce haack
― Erotic Wolf (crüt), Saturday, 23 September 2017 04:38 (eight years ago)
Peter Blegvad - Irma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wn-qyDlcPY
It's like living inside Catherine Deneuve's head in Repulsion
― Hideous Lump, Saturday, 23 September 2017 04:59 (eight years ago)