This new Taylor single flew from dubstep to trap to trop house in like a minute and I'm dizzy and drained.— Craig Bro Dude (@CraigSJ) September 3, 2017
She had Max Martin and Shellback airlift this campaign out the trenches huh— Craig Bro Dude (@CraigSJ) September 3, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 September 2017 12:45 (eight years ago)
much, much better than single 1, but still horrible dead-eyed trash precision-engineered by committee to get the most replays, obv ;)
― imago, Sunday, 3 September 2017 12:59 (eight years ago)
it's a shame the taylor who could write hooks died
― ufo, Sunday, 3 September 2017 13:17 (eight years ago)
During the tour for this album is she going to do the Mr. Rogers thing where she calls the audience her "friends," lies about recognizing them from Instagram, and brings celebrities onstage so the crowd can meet her other "friends"? Because this is what I witnessed when I was taken to a show on the 1989 tour and it was sort of sweet -- it was clear to me her youngest fans loved it and I was happy for them -- but also creepy. I'm sure there are people out there who have a phobia of Taylor Swift.
― Treeship, Sunday, 3 September 2017 13:30 (eight years ago)
There were also video segments where Lena Dunham and Selena Gomez talked about baking cookies at Taylor Swift's apartment. It was like they were trying to convince me she was a normal human being, something I never would have questioned before attending the concert.
― Treeship, Sunday, 3 September 2017 13:32 (eight years ago)
I had to explain to my kids the notion of a curated Instagram account.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 September 2017 13:41 (eight years ago)
I'm now under the impression this whole thing is her Chris Gaines album.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 3 September 2017 13:43 (eight years ago)
Despite it all though, the songs on 1989 are amazing. I really hope the new songs don't portend some moodier, more "2017" sound.
― Treeship, Sunday, 3 September 2017 13:44 (eight years ago)
No joke, even my 10-year old girl has been complaining about Taylor Swift going all "dark" and "goth."
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 September 2017 13:47 (eight years ago)
I mean, I will have to see the finished product. She might have a vision. But it seems kind of forced right now.
― Treeship, Sunday, 3 September 2017 13:52 (eight years ago)
Taylor Swift knows what works better than I do though, obviously.
― Treeship, Sunday, 3 September 2017 13:54 (eight years ago)
Taylor take the wheel
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 3 September 2017 15:06 (eight years ago)
imago otm i think
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Sunday, 3 September 2017 15:34 (eight years ago)
This new song doesn't work at all but Taylor is now failing in interesting ways rather than boring ones, which is an improvement in my book.
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Sunday, 3 September 2017 15:39 (eight years ago)
Taylor is now failing in interesting ways rather than boring ones
ahh man if there's any justice in this world, this will be on the sticker
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 3 September 2017 15:42 (eight years ago)
New song makes it seem clear the degree to which they actively sought a celebrity gossip nightmare with this album rollout bc this would've made a really good opening single, gotten the "harder-edged" message across, etc while pretty much avoiding all that pandemonium.
― You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Sunday, 3 September 2017 16:34 (eight years ago)
This person that literally broke the streaming record last week is failing in interesting ways
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 3 September 2017 16:49 (eight years ago)
This thing just destroyed the internet: http://ew.com/music/2017/08/30/taylor-swift-records-look-what-you-made-me-do/
But, on the other hand, there was also a Noisey article about how she isn't woke enough so maybe she should just shelve the album
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 3 September 2017 16:56 (eight years ago)
I mean who can say
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 3 September 2017 16:58 (eight years ago)
Do you actually like this music or do you just hate the Internet?
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:09 (eight years ago)
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― Neanderthal, Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:10 (eight years ago)
They're not mutually exclusive.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:14 (eight years ago)
Didn't Drake just put out a record where he repeatedly explains why his last record-breaking record was so shitty? Thinking sales is everything is really missing the point in this age of the popstar as brand.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:19 (eight years ago)
Man, I get it, but I hate this sort of metric. I'm not sure what breaking the streaming record even means, beyond the literal. It's just some number, like twitter followers or longest fingernails, that translates to next to nothing in the real world.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:20 (eight years ago)
well nobody cares about longest fingernails, for one
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:21 (eight years ago)
Tell it to Guinness Book and grade school kids.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:26 (eight years ago)
this sounds like wildest dreams
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:38 (eight years ago)
virtually every digital "record" is so gamed, both by bots and by a comparatively small number of fans refreshing/running their own bots/etc, as to be meaningless, at least outside of huge obvious differences
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:41 (eight years ago)
https://media.tenor.com/images/ca0351d04a0d4861f32d006b7449184d/tenor.gif
Bot: "I made that bitch faaaaamous"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:48 (eight years ago)
Without these pesky bots we'd know the truth that Taylor Swift is about as popular as Dent May
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:50 (eight years ago)
Do artists and/or labels actually game their numbers with bots? Or is it just renegade fans?
― Treeship, Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:51 (eight years ago)
probably both tbh
― maura, Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:52 (eight years ago)
not saying she's not popular, just that bots and overzealous fans probably act to boost the tallies to "record-breaking" levels
― maura, Sunday, 3 September 2017 18:00 (eight years ago)
right this is my point from before
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Sunday, 3 September 2017 18:11 (eight years ago)
in some way this is how pop has operated for a long time what was once radio payola is now bots and streaming factories
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 September 2017 18:35 (eight years ago)
i know
― maura, Sunday, 3 September 2017 18:39 (eight years ago)
Thousands of robot doing lines of free coke off Taylor Swift 12 inch singles
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 3 September 2017 18:41 (eight years ago)
lines of code conning young and impressionable youtubes into weekend "business" trips
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Sunday, 3 September 2017 18:44 (eight years ago)
yes, I am aware of this as well
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Sunday, 3 September 2017 18:47 (eight years ago)
glad that's sorted
― k3vin k., Sunday, 3 September 2017 18:52 (eight years ago)
this would have been preferable as a lead single to the other one for sure
― dyl, Sunday, 3 September 2017 19:11 (eight years ago)
how do I hide all uses of "dead-eyed" on ILX?
― Tim F, Sunday, 3 September 2017 19:51 (eight years ago)
dead your eyes
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Sunday, 3 September 2017 19:58 (eight years ago)
But you would risk missing the discussion of this nugget:https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5c/New_Age_Girl_Deadeye_Dick.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 September 2017 20:33 (eight years ago)
anyway the single is alessia cara's "stay" if produced by sleigh bells, which is more than ok
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Sunday, 3 September 2017 20:39 (eight years ago)
A couple things: one, I think the ringer article is good and if you really think there's no new precedent being broken in america's relationship to celebrity that we elected Donald fucking trump I think you might not have thought this through
Second, the source of all the "record breaking streaming numbers" is that more and more people are using steaming. Apple's numbers are climbing quickly, more people use YouTube for streaming music now than did even a year ago... have you guys not noticed that what used to seem like "a lot of views" now is fairly easy to get? The records are always breaking as streaming becomes mainstream
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 4 September 2017 04:46 (eight years ago)
I guarantee that if reality television existed 200 years ago we'd have the equivalent of a Donald Trump, given America's propensity to take seriously candidates famous pretty much just for business, or to elect popular war heroes on the basis of them being popular war heroes and find those presidencies either crashing and burning or full of horrific shit even for the era. the idea that pre-2016 was some halcyon time of decorum in politics is complete bullshit and always has been
point about the streaming numbers is 100% correct though
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Monday, 4 September 2017 04:52 (eight years ago)
There's a huge swath of discursive space between a fantasy halcyon past of decorum and the argument that nothing has changed, I think it's a frankly obvious observation that things have changed to the point where trump is electable & yes the rise of reality tv as a national phenomenon is a part of that.
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 4 September 2017 07:12 (eight years ago)
Fuck I don't get ILX - these last two singles suck. What you made me do sounds more like a response to her controlling A+R dept. than anything else. She's a pawn
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Monday, 4 September 2017 07:44 (eight years ago)
saying anyone's a "pawn" is silly, I'm sure she's making the music and visual statements she wants to makethough I think the sheer amount of debate centered around... almost anything Taylor Swift related other than the actual singles...speaks to their quality
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 September 2017 13:40 (eight years ago)