this, while not great in its conclusions (the piece doesn't quite separate itself from the Mic position that "social justice" topics are synonymous with clickbait, which... would seem to be the entire reason you'd write such a thing, besides the real reason i.e. inter-media feuds) is a pretty good case study
https://theoutline.com/post/2156/mic-com-and-the-cynicism-of-modern-media
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Saturday, 2 September 2017 20:03 (eight years ago)
I'm taking comfort in the possibility that people are going to move on from these opinions4u so hard the second she releases a googly-eyed love song
― crüt, Saturday, 2 September 2017 22:26 (eight years ago)
It's kinda funny I ran across my vinyl of Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain and was thinking how crazy Pitchfork, CoS, Noisey et al would have gone about Range Life considering all the digital ink spilled over this or Arcade Fire acting like ding dongs imagine the thinking pieces
"Nature Kids DO Have a Function: Pavement's Problematic Anti Ecological Politics"
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 2 September 2017 22:56 (eight years ago)
CRCR debuted in the bottom half of the billboard 200 albums chart and to this date has not even gone gold
in 1994 no clickbait economy would have wasted bandwidth on a pavement headline with everything else that was going on imo
if they could spare whitespace not already devoted to coverage of social media responses to kurt cobain's suicide there might be a graf or two about whether or not beck was guilty of cultural appropriation for doing a tropicalia album or making "where it's at"
― james brooks, Sunday, 3 September 2017 00:02 (eight years ago)
have you seen how much these outlets cover, for example, the various scandals involving Mark Kozelik's behavior, if Pitchfork existed then they would cover Pavement like crazy
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 3 September 2017 00:06 (eight years ago)
plus they were dissing 2 of the biggest bands in the world, i think it's safe to say it would be covered on indie sites
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 3 September 2017 00:08 (eight years ago)
kozelek went after a writer directly, different situation
― james brooks, Sunday, 3 September 2017 00:16 (eight years ago)
Yes. Partly a consequence of music-selection based tribalism falling apart in the social media age.
There are aspects of this I don't mind.
Imagining the 2017 Jack Black High Fidelity character judging each customer on their wokeness level[/].
― Eazy, Sunday, 3 September 2017 00:34 (eight years ago)
http://z100.iheart.com/featured/fresh-pick-mondays/content/2017-09-02-listen-to-a-clip-of-taylor-swifts-new-song-ready-for-it/
― maura, Sunday, 3 September 2017 00:35 (eight years ago)
And then D4rcie W1lder makes a disgusting, moronic tweet and then Noisey et al report on it like it's news.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, September 1, 2017 10:05 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
what does this mean?
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, September 1, 2017 11:42 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
speculation that TS picked her release date because it's the 10th anniversary of donda west's death
― maura, Sunday, 3 September 2017 00:36 (eight years ago)
Imagining the 2017 Jack Black High Fidelity character judging each customer on their wokeness level[
lmao ok holy shit, this is an incredible image
― flappy bird, Sunday, 3 September 2017 00:36 (eight years ago)
haha ugh
― maura, Sunday, 3 September 2017 00:38 (eight years ago)
"Do you even know your daughter? There's no way she likes a band of white cishet males"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 3 September 2017 00:52 (eight years ago)
looooll
― Tim F, Sunday, 3 September 2017 02:15 (eight years ago)
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, September 2, 2017 6:56 PM (four hours ago)
lol matt i love you
― k3vin k., Sunday, 3 September 2017 03:02 (eight years ago)
Song number two
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T62maKYX9tU
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 September 2017 12:34 (eight years ago)
This new Taylor single flew from dubstep to trap to trop house in like a minute and I'm dizzy and drained.— Craig Bro Dude (@CraigSJ) September 3, 2017
She had Max Martin and Shellback airlift this campaign out the trenches huh— Craig Bro Dude (@CraigSJ) September 3, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 September 2017 12:45 (eight years ago)
much, much better than single 1, but still horrible dead-eyed trash precision-engineered by committee to get the most replays, obv ;)
― imago, Sunday, 3 September 2017 12:59 (eight years ago)
it's a shame the taylor who could write hooks died
― ufo, Sunday, 3 September 2017 13:17 (eight years ago)
During the tour for this album is she going to do the Mr. Rogers thing where she calls the audience her "friends," lies about recognizing them from Instagram, and brings celebrities onstage so the crowd can meet her other "friends"? Because this is what I witnessed when I was taken to a show on the 1989 tour and it was sort of sweet -- it was clear to me her youngest fans loved it and I was happy for them -- but also creepy. I'm sure there are people out there who have a phobia of Taylor Swift.
― Treeship, Sunday, 3 September 2017 13:30 (eight years ago)
There were also video segments where Lena Dunham and Selena Gomez talked about baking cookies at Taylor Swift's apartment. It was like they were trying to convince me she was a normal human being, something I never would have questioned before attending the concert.
― Treeship, Sunday, 3 September 2017 13:32 (eight years ago)
I had to explain to my kids the notion of a curated Instagram account.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 September 2017 13:41 (eight years ago)
I'm now under the impression this whole thing is her Chris Gaines album.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 3 September 2017 13:43 (eight years ago)
Despite it all though, the songs on 1989 are amazing. I really hope the new songs don't portend some moodier, more "2017" sound.
― Treeship, Sunday, 3 September 2017 13:44 (eight years ago)
No joke, even my 10-year old girl has been complaining about Taylor Swift going all "dark" and "goth."
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 September 2017 13:47 (eight years ago)
I mean, I will have to see the finished product. She might have a vision. But it seems kind of forced right now.
― Treeship, Sunday, 3 September 2017 13:52 (eight years ago)
Taylor Swift knows what works better than I do though, obviously.
― Treeship, Sunday, 3 September 2017 13:54 (eight years ago)
Taylor take the wheel
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 3 September 2017 15:06 (eight years ago)
imago otm i think
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Sunday, 3 September 2017 15:34 (eight years ago)
This new song doesn't work at all but Taylor is now failing in interesting ways rather than boring ones, which is an improvement in my book.
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Sunday, 3 September 2017 15:39 (eight years ago)
Taylor is now failing in interesting ways rather than boring ones
ahh man if there's any justice in this world, this will be on the sticker
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 3 September 2017 15:42 (eight years ago)
New song makes it seem clear the degree to which they actively sought a celebrity gossip nightmare with this album rollout bc this would've made a really good opening single, gotten the "harder-edged" message across, etc while pretty much avoiding all that pandemonium.
― You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Sunday, 3 September 2017 16:34 (eight years ago)
This person that literally broke the streaming record last week is failing in interesting ways
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 3 September 2017 16:49 (eight years ago)
This thing just destroyed the internet: http://ew.com/music/2017/08/30/taylor-swift-records-look-what-you-made-me-do/
But, on the other hand, there was also a Noisey article about how she isn't woke enough so maybe she should just shelve the album
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 3 September 2017 16:56 (eight years ago)
I mean who can say
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 3 September 2017 16:58 (eight years ago)
Do you actually like this music or do you just hate the Internet?
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:09 (eight years ago)
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― Neanderthal, Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:10 (eight years ago)
They're not mutually exclusive.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:14 (eight years ago)
Didn't Drake just put out a record where he repeatedly explains why his last record-breaking record was so shitty? Thinking sales is everything is really missing the point in this age of the popstar as brand.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:19 (eight years ago)
Man, I get it, but I hate this sort of metric. I'm not sure what breaking the streaming record even means, beyond the literal. It's just some number, like twitter followers or longest fingernails, that translates to next to nothing in the real world.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:20 (eight years ago)
well nobody cares about longest fingernails, for one
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:21 (eight years ago)
Tell it to Guinness Book and grade school kids.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:26 (eight years ago)
this sounds like wildest dreams
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:38 (eight years ago)
virtually every digital "record" is so gamed, both by bots and by a comparatively small number of fans refreshing/running their own bots/etc, as to be meaningless, at least outside of huge obvious differences
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:41 (eight years ago)
https://media.tenor.com/images/ca0351d04a0d4861f32d006b7449184d/tenor.gif
Bot: "I made that bitch faaaaamous"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:48 (eight years ago)
Without these pesky bots we'd know the truth that Taylor Swift is about as popular as Dent May
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:50 (eight years ago)
Do artists and/or labels actually game their numbers with bots? Or is it just renegade fans?
― Treeship, Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:51 (eight years ago)
probably both tbh
― maura, Sunday, 3 September 2017 17:52 (eight years ago)
not saying she's not popular, just that bots and overzealous fans probably act to boost the tallies to "record-breaking" levels
― maura, Sunday, 3 September 2017 18:00 (eight years ago)
right this is my point from before
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Sunday, 3 September 2017 18:11 (eight years ago)