Taylor Swift Glitchy Snake Gifs thread 2017 - Reputation

http://i.imgur.com/q3Ny1py.jpg

lord that fuckin' GIF meme ugh

it is the best

luv that meme
h8 this song

mark me down as "hate both, will be attending the album release party"

https://s26.postimg.org/kk3kbw7nt/ulysses-swift.jpg

we're through the looking glass here people

apropos of nothing but one clever thing I will concede from the video is how "Red" turns into "Rep" if you flip the last letter

to be fair the "taylor swift is the official pop star of the alt-right" take that's been going around is also wrong and in bad faith -- they tried this exact same shit on depeche mode

― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Wednesday, August 30, 2017 8:32 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, but at least Depeche Mode came right out and denounced the alt-right. Taylor will not.

depeche mode is also about 30 decades past the peak of their career

*years, god

Enjoy Proudgirl Taylor, then.

you're missing the point, which is that the "alt-right" is composed of internet trolls who attempted to astroturf a #notyourshield campaign around Depeche Mode and failed, and are now trying to do the same to Taylor Swift and evidently succeeding

got a real Peaches feeling from this single

Look What You Made Me Do (This Dildo) ^^

lmao Whiney's meme

because it's the reason why "but Kanye *actually* supported Trump!" is an argument so stupid it approaches bad faith

― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Wednesday, August 30, 2017 11:00 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fwiw i made this argument in good faith: i'm just that stupid

https://www.theringer.com/pop-culture/2017/8/31/16234302/taylor-swift-donald-trump-problem

I don't know much (or care) about TS and all the stories, gossips and issues related (and I'm part of the people who only know "shake it off" from her previous work...) but I like the new single.
it's not great or anything but it's enjoyable as a end of summer/back to work track (except the speaking on the phone cringey part).

I just can't imagine Swift as a Trump supporter. She just took a sexual harassment case to court out of principle and to set an example, it's the exact opposite of "grab them by the pussy." Her sex-positive identity on her earlier stuff seems at odds with the antifeminist conservatism of the alt-right.

Anyway what would the actual consequence of Swift coming out to admonish Trump and his supporters? The risk of some lost sales, yes, but would it help her win new ones? Is there an audience who would say I thought I didn't like Taylor Swift but now she is a liberal I guess I will take her seriously? I think her actions say a lot about the person she is. Katy Perry is keen to tell us how "woke" she is but lets not forget that she started her career with "Ur So Gay" and "I Kissed A Girl."

That said, this ticket selling arrangmenet is horrific and this new song is dreadful in a way that goes beyond mediocrity, "losing everything about herself that was special" is OTM.

You mean sex-positive earlier stuff like "She's better known for the things that she does on the mattress"?

Is there an audience who would say I thought I didn't like Taylor Swift but now she is a liberal I guess I will take her seriously?

"Audience" as in CD/ticket buyers? Of course not? "Audience" as in mercenary hacks who will happily write 800 words on exactly that subject for Slate, Salon, The Atlantic, Jezebel, Teen Vogue, etc., etc.? ABSOLUTELY.

Yeah, I think this whole 'Trump voter' thing is kind of dumb, and I mostly agree with the Ringer piece, but it's interesting to me that at least two people have now described her earlier country work as "sex-positive". I don't even think a singer needs to be sex-positive per se but what examples of this are people thinking of? I think I'm fairly familiar with Fearless and Speak Now. xp

The one I always thought was notable was "there's a drawer of my things at your place" - the subtle inference of staying over and all that entails. Or "Wildest Dreams" which is basically about enjoying the thrill and sexuality of a moment without it having to go somewhere. But there's a definite falseness to the early media portrayal of her as this virginal chaste ingenue when actually a lot of her material is, while maybe not overtly sexual, doesn't shy away from ideas of intimacy or attraction.

(and of course that all changed because she dared to go on a few dates with a few different men and then she was a slut, because a woman can only be one of the other eh)

the Ringer piece makes the same mistake all such pieces do: assumes that fixation on celebrities and public figures in the political realm is a unique facet of 2017

...you mean history didn't start two seconds ago?

otoh Fifteen seems to be about how sex as a youth is a regrettable mistake (And Abigail gave everything she had / To a boy who changed his mind / And we both cried) which isn't necessarily conservative but doesn't entirely fit progressive sexual mores.

Shocker that adolescents continue to attach too much importance to their virginity and are a mess about love and romance.

it doesn't "seem to be," it completely is and the fact that this was ever a fact in question is mind-boggling

In the "Taylor is a liberal" evidence column you could add that many of her early songs are about getting the hell out of a small town and moving to a big city

katherine, the difference is that fan-fiction was the purview of teenagers and perverts and now it's done by pundits that make six figures a year

this entire rollout has made music writing read like fucking TV recaps, where everyone's concerns are "how does this fit into the narrative" and "is this woke enough."

And the poptimism flip-flop on Swift probably says less about her as a pop auteur and more about how desperate/scared culture writers are to appear like they fit in to the online discourse of the moment.

Twitter has made everyone lose their fucking minds. Like what type of parasitic holes has Slate wokeness burned in your brain when you hear Taylor Swift pumping herself up with hip-hop dis track bravado on a single and go "wow ... white victim narrative much" instead of "hey, a pop star made a video version of the 'control verse' ... neat"

And then D4rcie W1lder makes a disgusting, moronic tweet and then Noisey et al report on it like it's news.

howdy. im the sheriff of tone. im gon police u tone.

music used to be an autonomous art, man

TSJ weighs in

And then D4rcie W1lder makes a disgusting, moronic tweet and then Noisey et al report on it like it's news.

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, September 1, 2017 10:05 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what does this mean?

the difference is that, much as last year millions of people became convinced nasty campaigns were invented in 2016, the Ringer piece claims 2017 invented "beginning to take pop stars especially seriously," with a couple lazy equivocations like "Trump is not the first famous entertainer to reach high office" and "Running and holding office has always been its own genre of theatrics" that suggest that deep down the writer knew it was bullshit. if ringer dude's sick of taylor swift politics takes he should just say that and leave it there instead of making it a symptom of our era that everyone's gonna nod along with because they, too, are sick of taylor swift takes and of our era

this also applies to music -- godwin said it was ok, so for every bit of "why isn't Taylor Swift speaking out against Neo-Nazis" discourse there's a contemporous bit, then several decades more, of, say, "why is Richard Strauss collaborating with actual Nazis." (not to #slatepitch, obviously the sole reason the VMAs opened with the one Strauss clip everyone knows was because of 2001: A Space Odyssey, but it was still pretty... "funny" isn't the right word, that the walkup music for Katy Perry's Woke Commentary was something by the head of the State Music Bureau)

(now I really want an actual historian to collate the "should this composer be opposing the Tories???" pamphlet crud from the 1770s, I know it's out there)

"Trump is not the first famous entertainer to reach high office

indeed he is not

I searched "the ringer taylor swift" and holy shit they have like 10 million Taylor Swift articles

When I heard they killed off the old Taylor Swift, I was hoping they'd take diversity into account when casting the new version

Netflix Announces Gritty Reboot of Taylor Swift

I didn't really interpret

it is troubling when we begin to take pop stars especially seriously, not because they have demonstrated knowledge or competence but simply because they command massive audiences

as meaning that no one did this before 2017. That said, the part of the Ringer piece that I mostly agreed with was "wgaf about Taylor Swift's political positions?"

TSJ weighs in

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, September 1, 2017 8:33 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

for a brief moment, I thought the Taylor Swift Journal existed

with 33 blurbs, that's basically what it is!

It's true that none of these developments are "new" but it does feel like music criticism as a series of wokeness-assessments is having a 2016-2017 moment. And I do think that this is as much or more about writers establishing their own bona fides, which is maybe kind of why it's so irresistible: if you know that whatever you write about Taylor (or whoever) is gonna be assessed on political or cultural grounds first and foremost, it's very hard to not end up predominantly speaking to that question given the reader-response judgments are gonna be much more dramatic than just "well I like that song rather more than the writer does".

I'm pretty sure Treeship said this somewhere on ILX in the last couple months: "politics is the new taste." people define themselves and judge others based on their opinions and hot takes instead of what bands they like or what patches they have on their jacket

its a natural result of the internet rendering consumable goods immaterial now what matters is not what you consume but your motivation/skill at consuming "correctly"