have you descended into madness?
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 28 August 2017 22:52 (eight years ago)
The option before was to prove you weren't a bot through sms...
― Frederik B, Monday, 28 August 2017 22:53 (eight years ago)
these are systems solving two different problems
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 August 2017 22:56 (eight years ago)
What problem do you think is being solved? There's no improvement here, it's taking solutions that were being worked out, and turning them into an exploitative machine aimed at the fans.
― Frederik B, Monday, 28 August 2017 22:58 (eight years ago)
an exploitative machine aimed at fans that just can't help themselves from buying shit
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 August 2017 23:06 (eight years ago)
(also it is incrementally better. you are just the bernie bro of ticket sales systems.)
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 August 2017 23:07 (eight years ago)
What is wrong with you?
― Frederik B, Monday, 28 August 2017 23:08 (eight years ago)
https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Mr-Krabs-Blur-Meme.jpg
― flappy bird, Monday, 28 August 2017 23:11 (eight years ago)
xp eh, I am not trying to be too harsh here, Fred, as we are talking about taylor swift concert ticket dispersal systems.
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 August 2017 23:20 (eight years ago)
and you can marvel at how grumpy i've become but this shit is maddening:"the CD costs $60""the CD costs $15""you must pay $60 to guarantee getting it on release day""you can buy it in stores on release day""but that might not boost my progress bar""you can buy it on itunes on release day and boost your progress bar""i want a CD that costs $15 or less and is available on release day and boosts my progress bar""you sound like a ridiculous human being with v specific consumerist desires that you expect to be fulfilled, but it looks like you can buy it at target on release day and then enter a code on her website to boost your progress bar."
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 August 2017 23:30 (eight years ago)
how much is taylor paying you
― j., Tuesday, 29 August 2017 00:09 (eight years ago)
You mean how many points?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 00:10 (eight years ago)
Do you think if there were a clothing alteration shop called Swift Tailor she would sue them? How about Tailor: Swift.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 00:12 (eight years ago)
i'm only half-following this but i'm sure someone has mentioned that amazon can send you new releases so they arrive on their release day if you preorder for free (or prime shipping at worst) which makes any defense of express shipping an album via ups for $$$ completely absurd.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 00:14 (eight years ago)
taylor is paying me in pupusas (from a shop, Swift Pupusas, which she acquired in a lawsuit)
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 00:18 (eight years ago)
her commercials have her in a bathtub full of pupusas (which is pretty rad for snack iconography)
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 00:25 (eight years ago)
god bless the pupUSA
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 00:44 (eight years ago)
Man, if Swift sold pupusas I would be so there (for points, at least). That's creeping toward Shakira country, though, so there might be some beefing.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:12 (eight years ago)
only victims are the actual fans who buy a bunch of merch they can’t afford and still don’t get good concert tickets, imo
people who paid a shitload to scalpers, or as they’re known today in the era where stubhub and its peers are owned by ticketmaster/etc, “resellers” will still be rich and capable of paying for resold tickets. some of those tickets will be from people who bought merch on this pay for access treadmill, so the money makes it way back to the artist/merch people instead of being pure scalper profit
the private booths, VIP areas that are venue-owned, will keep scamming. this isn’t a huge change in the concert tickets game, it’s just a different gaming of it, and it’s not a system contrived by Taylor Swift’s people!
the pupusas are delicious
― mh, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:18 (eight years ago)
I should say only *new* victims, the real people who are losing out are the fans of artists who can’t afford tickets because the prices are out of control, while some seats are left empty because the system doesn’t care if seats are filled, only tickets sold
they’re as screwed as they’ve always been
― mh, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:19 (eight years ago)
She's the biggest pop star in the world. this will be a lot of fans.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:24 (eight years ago)
imo the only solution is playing venues with only general admission tickets, and letting people who are short, kids, or need to be seated at the front, followed by people in order of height so they can all see
― mh, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:27 (eight years ago)
I was doing some math and I realized the vast majority of people in the world, billions, will be locked out of seeing Taylor, let alone snagging good seats. Taylor Swift, if you are reading this, make this right!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:29 (eight years ago)
by my math she could squeeze in a couple shows in the evening per day by hopping on a jet outside the venue and flying enough time zones west to do another 7pm show
― mh, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:31 (eight years ago)
Or just build a giant Earth-sized stadium.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 01:41 (eight years ago)
Josh's ardent defense of Swift's Ivory Tower obliviousness is bizarre. She is the biggest pop star in the world: she has a responsibility to use that power in a benevolent or, at the very least, benign way. It can't be repeated enough that Swift has said nothing about Trump, Black Lives Matter, equal rights, marches, protest. Beyonce uses her power. So does Kanye. Plenty of musicians with young fans setting very good examples right now. To see Swift emerge for the first time in the Trump era with this stale schtick and repulsive self-referential meta-thing is so disappointing. I really like her pop records. Exploiting your fans and having absolutely NOTHING to talk about but yourself is fucked up.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 03:00 (eight years ago)
Um.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 03:03 (eight years ago)
You got the wrong guy, I'm innocent, there are witnesses.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 03:04 (eight years ago)
yup
― sleeve, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 03:04 (eight years ago)
flappy bird has opened my eyes. i ate the red pupusa.
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 03:19 (eight years ago)
Tay practices proper security culture, and always masks up before engaging in protest.
― voyou, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 10:47 (eight years ago)
Beyonce uses her power. So does Kanye.
lol
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 10:57 (eight years ago)
Kanye and Taylor are basically mirrors of each other at this point
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 10:58 (eight years ago)
i wonder if she's taken one look at what Katy Perry is doing and gone "nah.. "
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/02/22/23/3D8B76FA00000578-4250766-image-a-36_1487807325664.jpg
― piscesx, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 10:58 (eight years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qPWkjk5nNc
― piscesx, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 11:06 (eight years ago)
Boy do I regret naming my two girls Katy and Taylor.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 11:38 (eight years ago)
FYI, I've pre-ordered a few new releases from Amazon and never gotten the physical disc on release day. In the case of the last Metallica album, it didn't hit my PO box until about 10 days after street date. They did give me MP3s of the album on release date, but it took forever to ship and they never offered an explanation.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 11:53 (eight years ago)
in this topic: people shocked that an artist with roots in the country scene is not denouncing the president half their fanbase loves
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 11:57 (eight years ago)
Didn't you hear the news? That Taylor is dead. RIP Old Taylor
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 11:59 (eight years ago)
This would have been the perfect opportunity to slap on a fake mustache and do a Sasha Fierce/Chris Gaines. Then she could have charged for a PPV special setting the two against each other in a cage match, whose conclusion reveals they were the same person all along. And then you have to pay a fee to turn it off, otherwise it will just keep charging you, like a power meter or a promotional magazine subscription that sneakily renews itself.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:01 (eight years ago)
I feel frustrated whenever it becomes a discussion about what Taylor 'should' do. Taylor has proven herself time and time again to be a pop-star exemplar of the white female Trump voter, a woman of privilege who chooses to hold on to her power by self-victimization and lashing out at others, to the point that her first single (her major artistic thesis!) is an expensive and useless takedown of her perceived rival-- a black male auteur. I wish her work would be observed as more of a window into the mindset that produces this kind of North American entitlement rather than people armchairing their own versions of how Taylor could be a better progressive
― fgti, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:57 (eight years ago)
boom
― imago, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:58 (eight years ago)
I like that take, which recasts her rivalry with the self-consciously awakened Katy Perry in a new light.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:58 (eight years ago)
Well, "wokeness" is just white people learning the language of progressive politics in order to maintain white supremacy, and Katy is the new best-cultural-example for that idea since Paul Haggis' "Crash", but whatever
― fgti, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 13:01 (eight years ago)
hell yes
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 13:05 (eight years ago)
irony meter just flickered, TH ;)
― imago, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 13:08 (eight years ago)
My lack of ironic quotes around "awakened" was mostly do to me typing and walking, I don't think Perry's "progressive" politics are worth a shit, I think she's just as facile as Swift, and ultimately just as mega pop star neo fascist (in the "We Will Rock You" Queen sense).
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 13:08 (eight years ago)
but really fgti's take there seems excellent and not just because it justifies my steadfast, never-wavering suspicion and dislike of dead dead dead-eyed taylor swift and her dead-eyed music
― imago, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 13:09 (eight years ago)
I just meant that Swift not saying shit about shit beyond herself is the flip side of Perry saying specifically that she is saying shit about shit beyond herself, even if ultimately both reach the same dead eyed end.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 13:10 (eight years ago)
Ha, dead eyed xpost!