Or a tendency to favor experimentalism in say Song Cycle and the United States of America over other psychedelic albums
― timellison, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link
(Academic experimentalism, more accurately)
― timellison, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link
Not that I don't like both of those albums, I do. But I also like the Strawberry Alarm Clock.
(I actually prefer the Strawberry Alarm Clock, but I am willing to chalk that up to personal preference. What I'm unwilling to chalk up to personal preference is the idea that Van Dyke Parks or the U.S.A. are in any really obvious way better.)
― timellison, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link
KLF, kinda bonkers
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link
I hadn't listened to SF Sorrow in forever and I did a while back that record is such a psych classic, bonkers like Piper at the Gates of Dawn and (may I say IMHO) better songs
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link
There's maybe a tendency to favor records with some kind of edge. There's no real flower power. The Sonics and not the Seeds, etc.
the Bee Gees get no respect
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:51 (six years ago) link
country entries also totally pedestrian/predictable apart from the Mickey Newbury
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link
is that Lesley Gore album really that good? (not being sarcastic I only know her oldies radio hits)
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link
xpost dunno how you leave Buck Owens off this list
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link
― Οὖτις
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link
Odessa is a great fucking record.
scott what are the everly bros I need to hear
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:56 (six years ago) link
I don't think any of their 60s records are consistently great tbh
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:56 (six years ago) link
(bee gees I mean)
dunno how you leave Buck Owens off this list
also, yes
what did the p4k equivalents enjoy back in 60s? not this?
― dyl, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link
A Date With the Everly Bros. is a solid record
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link
oh man 60s everly brothers records are so solid. seriously. i've never actually heard a bad record by them. for 60s: It's Everly Time, A Date With The Everly Brothers, The Everly Brothers Sing, Roots.
some of the 60s records are themed . i don't listen to those as much. but they're cool. like the country hits one. and rock 'n' soul. where they do popular songs of the 50s and 60s.
i would say go with Its Everly Time and A Date With...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 20:53 (six years ago) link
they can be so much fun and then they break your heart. so beautiful. and the production is always amazing.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link
i have a beautiful mono copy of Gone Gone Gone here at the store and I just put it on. I like that record a lot. "Lonely Island" is so beautiful. it's so worth getting clean original mono copies of their early records.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link
i've been playing Phil's Mystic Line record a LOT lately. it fits my mood. but that's 70s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuP9rTkL3-0
― scott seward, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link
The real poptimism power move would have been to make the Rhino Girl Groups box number one.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 22:49 (six years ago) link
159. Ray Barretto - Acid (1968)
yea baby
― flopson, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 23:00 (six years ago) link
"The real poptimism power move would have been to make the Rhino Girl Groups box number one."
"Peanut Duck" alone is better than any Randy Newman album.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 23:15 (six years ago) link
Newman does have a song on that box as a writer tbf
― Number None, Thursday, 24 August 2017 06:49 (six years ago) link
Many, many xposts - my go to Everly's 60s is Two Yanks in England.
Co-sign the Mingus piano record: it's fantastic.
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, 24 August 2017 09:22 (six years ago) link
This 60s list is good. But Mississippi John Hurt "Today" is a huge omission. He is a giant of music that has yet to be discovered by a larger audience.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 24 August 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link
I think people don't realize how great the first two Joan Baez albums are. I didn't until I bought these beautiful copies of them in a thrift store a couple of years ago.
― timellison, Thursday, 24 August 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link
her voice is nails-on-a-chalkboard
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 August 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link
Joan Baez generally is underrated, though she can also be insufferable
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 24 August 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link
more like Joan Bias right there
― Evan, Thursday, 24 August 2017 16:31 (six years ago) link
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi),
like most people imo
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 August 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link
Dylan from Chronicles - "The Vanguard record was no phony baloney. It was almost frightening - an impeccable repertoire of songs."
― timellison, Thursday, 24 August 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link
You said something similar about Grace Slick, I think.
https://debuk.wordpress.com/2016/03/12/the-taming-of-the-shrill/
― timellison, Thursday, 24 August 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link
yes she is also terrible
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 August 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link
thx for the irrelevant link tho
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 August 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link
ie we are discussing aesthetics, not politicians and yes I have aesthetic preferences regarding what voices I find pleasant to listen to, regardless of gender. As I'm sure every listener does.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 August 2017 17:18 (six years ago) link
grace slick is awesome. a fierce fiery freedom fighter of a singer. there was nowhere she wouldn't go in her quest for freedom! nowhere!!
― scott seward, Thursday, 24 August 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link
goddamn shakey Grace Slick is an incredible singer. i just saw A Serious Man for the first time last night & loved the recurring Jefferson Airplane motif
― flappy bird, Thursday, 24 August 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link
Grace Slick as a singer is not even anywhere near in the same league as Joan Baez. Grace just has a big voice. But unless I'm wrong we're arguing this point w/a dude who'd call Lou Reed a good singer so let's not worry too much
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 24 August 2017 17:42 (six years ago) link
With so many shithole people in the world of entertainment, I really respect the way Joan Baez has conducted her life, we should all aspire to do as much. I think she has a lovely voice, she didn't blend super well with my man Bob but that's no crime. Not my particular jam but there's always been something about the vitriol pointed at her that is Yoko-esque imo.
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 August 2017 17:43 (six years ago) link
Grace Slick as a singer is not even anywhere near in the same league as Joan Baez.
Few are!
― timellison, Thursday, 24 August 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link
plenty of baez i like, ums otm too
― marcos, Thursday, 24 August 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link
also she does a good dylan impression
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCyQ7GW8QFk
― marcos, Thursday, 24 August 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link
i really appreciate Baez and have come to like her, she has a nice blending of American and some darker strains of UK folk, at least that's what i hear in her.
― nomar, Thursday, 24 August 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link
Thanks for the Everly Brothers picks, scott! I'm listening to Sing.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 August 2017 17:49 (six years ago) link
I love that Dylan impression so much. I think Judy Collins is a better singer than Baez but Baez is a greater musician, she really knew her shit. I suspect she taught Bob Dylan much of what he knows about traditional folk.
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 24 August 2017 17:49 (six years ago) link
she is an amazing singer imo
― marcos, Thursday, 24 August 2017 17:49 (six years ago) link
"diamonds and rust" makes me tear up a lil tbh
― marcos, Thursday, 24 August 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link
yeah those early 60s vanguard records are very good overall. maybe a little less impressive once you've heard her sources, but still good (tho i get the complaints about her vocals).
― tylerw, Thursday, 24 August 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link