pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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it's also easier to talk about its influence on various indie types

Number None, Monday, 21 August 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link

i for one would rather not see a love supreme top this list *rehashes entire argument from 2011 over which deej got yelled at a lot*

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 21 August 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

No way a love supreme gets it

I didn't really know "in a silent way" had become so praised either tbh... when I first started on ilx I think the "rock critics know better than 80 years of jazz criticism" pick was "on the corner"

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 21 August 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link

Spiritual hat jazz will def have some strong placings I'm sure

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 21 August 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link

I don't anywhere that makes as big a deal of In A Silent Way as this board tbh

I mean it's a good record but idk if it's become universally hailed or whatever.

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 August 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link

feel like Spiritual Hat Jazz's best stuff/most canonical stuff came out in the 70s but yeah I could see Pharaoh Sanders' "Karma" showing up. I don't really recall Pfork having a lot of love for Sun Ra or Yusef Lateef but who knows. Late-period Coltrane will def be represented.

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 August 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link

They did a spiritual jazz feature, didn't they? Like an introductory playlist or something.

200 albums is a lot, that's twice as much as the 70s/80s/90s lists, so I'm pretty sure they'll include at least something by Sun Ra.

mthrn, Monday, 21 August 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link

the #1 album of the 1960s will be something that can be paired with a delicious dogfish head 90 minute IPA, accompanied by a write-up explaining how the author's first time drinking that beer coincided with a time of renewed appreciation for the album, plus a pun in one of the song titles that relates to something about the brewery

Karl Malone, Monday, 21 August 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link

i assume all of you are regular october readers like i am

Karl Malone, Monday, 21 August 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link

xxpost They gave Sun Ra- Singles a 'Best New Reissue' back in December

President Keyes, Monday, 21 August 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link

In a Silent IPA

Number None, Monday, 21 August 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link

they are going to make #1 the Coca Cola song and the write up will be about how Arcade Fire is still DO YOU SEE about the commodification of music

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), 21. august 2017 21:39 (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it will be extremely bold of them to make the no. 1 album of the '60s a jingle

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), 21. august 2017 21:39 (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Especially one from 1971

Frederik B, Monday, 21 August 2017 20:06 (six years ago) link

lol karl

marcos, Monday, 21 August 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link

the #1 album of the 1960s will be something that can be paired with a delicious dogfish head 90 minute IPA, accompanied by a write-up explaining how the author's first time drinking that beer coincided with a time of renewed appreciation for the album, plus a pun in one of the song titles that relates to something about the brewery

― Karl Malone, Monday, August 21, 2017 1:02 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

white light/white hops then

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 21 August 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link

Hope to see Cosmic Tones for Mental Therapy on there with Sun Ra.

Frederik B, Monday, 21 August 2017 20:10 (six years ago) link

Song Cycle will be in there, but not nearly high enough.

flappy bird, Monday, 21 August 2017 21:41 (six years ago) link

Song Cycle is overrated as hell.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Monday, 21 August 2017 22:40 (six years ago) link

yeah that is a p annoying record

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 August 2017 22:42 (six years ago) link

Oh boy, a woke '60s list. Can't wait. I was actually wondering what their late-August decade list would be bc for some reason I thought they had already featured every possible option.

billstevejim, Monday, 21 August 2017 22:43 (six years ago) link

Discover America is a much more enjoyable VDP record but I'd rather listen to The Mighty Sparrow tbh

Number None, Monday, 21 August 2017 22:48 (six years ago) link

Aug 2019 is obviously when "Best of 2010s" albums and singles are happening.

billstevejim, Monday, 21 August 2017 22:49 (six years ago) link

Oh boy, a woke '60s list. Can't wait. I was actually wondering what their late-August decade list would be bc for some reason I thought they had already featured every possible option.

Really disgusting that they're being woke about the decade of the Equal Pay Act, the Civil Rights Act and the Stonewall Riots

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 00:08 (six years ago) link

A woke list would be much more interesting than having the Beatles/stones/Dylan dominate the top 50

josh az (2011nostalgia), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 01:16 (six years ago) link

A woke list would be much more interesting than having the Beatles/stones/Dylan dominate the top 50

Equally boring. A truly interesting experiment would be making Pfork writers review the 200 most popular albums 1960-69.

grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 01:23 (six years ago) link

review dozens of beatles/stones/dylan albums?

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 01:26 (six years ago) link

"after dylan's motorcycle crash, he holed up in woodstock and stepped away from the "zzzzzzzzzzzz

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 01:27 (six years ago) link

I have a feeling that Forever Changes will win this poll. The Velvet Underground seem like the other obvious contenders but they are more likely suffer from split voting. Personally I'd like to see Scott 4 win.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 01:37 (six years ago) link

I thought we did a good job making an interesting list with this: http://www.spin.com/2013/03/best-100-albums-1960s-sixties-alternative-list?amp=1

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 01:38 (six years ago) link

did someone already post "A Beer for Every Beatles Album"?

https://oct.co/essays/beer-every-beatles-album?utm_source=p4k

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 01:40 (six years ago) link

heh, no, but i kind of referenced it upthread. honestly i think that fell in the so bad it's good category, i read it all the way through

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 01:49 (six years ago) link

Equally boring. A truly interesting experiment would be making Pfork writers review the 200 most popular albums 1960-69.

most popular as in best selling? (which I guess would include lots of original cast albums and easy listening and stuff?) that does sound more interesting than a canonical list.

soref, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 01:52 (six years ago) link

Song Cycle is overrated as hell.

― he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin)

yeah that is a p annoying record

― Οὖτις

http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/2016/04/krabs-meme-th.jpg

flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 01:56 (six years ago) link

wow that beatles beer thing, best music writing 2017

brimstead, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 02:01 (six years ago) link

the #1 album of the 1960s will be something that can be paired with a delicious dogfish head 90 minute IPA, accompanied by a write-up explaining how the author's first time drinking that beer coincided with a time of renewed appreciation for the album, plus a pun in one of the song titles that relates to something about the brewery

― Karl Malone, Monday, August 21, 2017 9:02 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-h2Wpsgq8EeA/T-zGBIgiG9I/AAAAAAAAEoI/xN0uIO--DF8/s1600/Dogfish+Head+Miles+Davis%27+Bitches+Brew.JPG

nomar, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 02:41 (six years ago) link

According to Dogfish founder and president Sam Calagione, the ale is "the ultimate partner for chili or spicy curry chicken" and best enjoyed "sipped cool, not cold, from a snifter or red wine glass while listening to the Bitches Brew album."

nomar, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 02:43 (six years ago) link

hahahaha

i think i've ran across the bitches brew beer before, but didn't realize it was a dogfish joint

hey, i woudn't be mad at bitches brew at #1, though that would never happen

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 02:47 (six years ago) link

full disclosure, we have a bottle of that stashed away

nomar, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 02:48 (six years ago) link

Bitches Brew beer is amazing tbh

tylerw, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 02:53 (six years ago) link

“you gotta here [sic] this one”:

http://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/the-200-best-albums-of-the-1960s/

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 05:38 (six years ago) link

Shit, cat.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 06:27 (six years ago) link

i'm skimmed through 200-140, and i'm liking it so far! this stretch is heavy on the jazz, and it touches on some of my old faves as well as some i've been meaning to listen to but forgot about. looking forward to reading the rest tomorrow.

you gotta here this

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 06:27 (six years ago) link

top 10 p dull

||||||||, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 07:18 (six years ago) link

yeah, but the 69204234-2342340987234091240987123409871234098712340987324098712304987123409817234098127340981274098712340981340987123409871230498712345876540918p273410746571-2093586390457twtth time you read a list of best 60s albums it's hard to surprise anyone

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 07:29 (six years ago) link

the #1 album of the 60 is Spirit of the Golden Juice

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 07:30 (six years ago) link

In a Silent Way is 8 spots too low. Forever Changes not even in top 20.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 08:04 (six years ago) link

Excellent font choice, I will say that.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 08:18 (six years ago) link

I am also surprised at the ascension of In A Silent Way towards the position Best Jazz Album of the 1960s. Is it primarily held in these terms in a rock context?

in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 08:23 (six years ago) link

Yes.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 10:25 (six years ago) link

Anyway, awesome list. I already have at least 30 albums I want to hear and I don't know where to start.

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 10:30 (six years ago) link

The top of the list is not all that distinct from a typical canonical list, though the order is slightly different and there are a few jazz albums sprinkled in

rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 11:34 (six years ago) link


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