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gosh, I didn't know Big Al Downing was alive! like his stuff on those Silver Fox/SSS comps.

it seems all I've done over the last few days is listen to the Kinks and Ray Davies, for something I'm cooking up here. but I have lent an ear to some of Radney Foster's new one "This World We Live In." and I'll say that the first track, "Drunk on Love," is actually funky and rips off Sheryl Crow and Nilsson's "Coconut," and he talks his way thru some of it, has a nice unpretentious voice...altho he does say "bidness" and I'm not sure about that. anyway, what he seems to be going for is pub-rock or the Fab Thunderbirds with Nick Lowe kinda-thing as on "Big Love." it seems to thin out pretty quickly, and I'm not sure that his voice, unpretentious as it is, can really sustain.

thx for the take on Tres, Roy, I must've missed your comments upthread. I don't think the songs are any good, nice "textures."

and I like Daniell Howle's "Thank You Mark." nicely jazzy. which come to think of it might mean not much, but it's pleasant. it's in the stack along with Jessi's record, Shawn Camp, etc.

and I really have grown attached to Jamey Johnson's record. in fact got myself a jones for it for a while. and ended up liking Scott Miller's "Citation" quite a lot, which suprised me. Dickinson's production really helps, of course, but I think his songs are good, especially the one about Sam Houston and the I'm-in-Iraq-but-Jody's-fucking-my-girlfriend song (and Scott'll get her back, Jody, so enjoy it while you can).

finally, I recommend the new Numero female-obscuro-folkie comp "Ladies from the Canyon." the repros of the album covers, and the liners, are worth the price, but shit, some of the music ain't any worse than the folkie stuff that made it out into the world. some better. and Ellen Warshaw, who was the only one to make it to a halfway big label (Vanguard) landed here in Nashville, where she runs a B&B, works as a massage therapist, and still writes songs. her version of "Sister Morphine" isn't really worse than Faithfull's...

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 3 March 2006 15:57 (twenty years ago)

Do you folks know of any forums that mainly discuss the type of music ND covers?

cracktivity1 (cracktivity1), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:10 (twenty years ago)

>gosh, I didn't know Big Al Downing was alive! <

Well, he's not, not anymore. He was in 2003, though.

Here's what I wrote about his last album:

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0337,eddy,46856,22.html

xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 16:15 (twenty years ago)

Edd, could you tell me a bit more about the SSS / Silver Fox stuff? Mostly I know those labels for their soul output, though I have an old UK-released SSS vinyl comp called "Country Gold", which is an entertaining mixture of decent country-pop, light-ish honky tonk and ludicrous novelty records (eg a "Big John" take off called "Big Fanny" which is hilarious to us Brits, as you can probably imagine) plus some rubbish. I'd like to hear more.

Tim (Tim), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:11 (twenty years ago)

Rhoda Towns album is sounding better, especially "Somethin' Better" (which mentions Scooby Doo) and "Those Were the Nights" and "Storm Before the Calm." Doesn't sound like Reba; not sure who it *does* sound like. My new traditionalist countrypolitan-woman comparison chops ain't shit. But the album's slickness has energy and hooks and soul. Only real sore spot for me so far is that she puts her American Idolized "The Lord's Prayer" at #4 when she should have closed the album with it. It lasts less than two minutes, but feels like an eternity. Though apparently she's the daughter of a preacher man, so maybe she had no choice. Thing is, I grew up Catholic not Protestant, so I'm used to forgiving us our tresspassers, not our debtors. Eek.

xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 17:34 (twenty years ago)

RHONDA Towns. Not Rhoda. (Because then she'd be Jewish, and Mary Tyler Moore's friend.)

xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 17:37 (twenty years ago)

duh. 2003 is when that was. that's good on Big Al, Chuck.

*Edd, could you tell me a bit more about the SSS / Silver Fox stuff? Mostly I know those labels for their soul output*

well, that's pretty much what I know, Tim. Sundazed put out two comps last year of SSS/Silver Fox stuff. "My Goodnes, Yes!" is the better of the two, by far, concentrating on Silver Fox material. the big name is Bettye LaVette, who did all her Silver Fox recording with the Dixie Flyers in Memphis. and as far as I'm concerned (having just gotten 3 discs, put together by LaVette's manager/husband, of the bulk of her work from the early '60s thru about '82, with some very nice stuff done on an Atlantic session unreleased in the USA but somehow or another avaiable in Europe) that's her best period. anyway, the other Sundazed comp, "Shake What You Brought," is far less compelling, lots of lame retreads of the fashionable sounds of the era. there's also a Kent 20-cut comp called "Cryin' in the Streets" that contains many songs not on the Sundazed, including Calvin Leavy's "Cummins Prison Farm" which is a great companion piece to Bobby Womack's 1970 "Arkansas State Prison." Shelby Singleton just grabbed up anything he could find, so it's really inconsistent, but "My Goodness" has a couple of really nice Robert Parker Allen Toussaint songs on it.

and George did good on that Hank III record in the Voice. Hank Jr. wouldn't have done it that way.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 3 March 2006 18:18 (twenty years ago)

Thanks Edd, I know the Silver Fox Lavette stuff (back when she was plain ol' Betty!) and the Atlantic CD which (yes) came out in France a few years back, having been legendary lost tapes forever. She did a few good bits & bobs for Epic, I think, and then made an LP for Motown which I've heard good things about but never actually heard.

I'll have a glance at the Sundazed CDs, but I want to know more about the country stuff these people recorded.

What I know about this country soul stuff comes from the sleeve notes of Charly reissues from the 80s, and from Barney Hoskyns's book "Say It One Time For The Brokenhearted: The Country Side of Southern Soul" which isn't faultless but is very useful.

Tim (Tim), Friday, 3 March 2006 18:24 (twenty years ago)

I just bought tickets to see Lee Ann Womack in NYC, and George Jones in Lancaster, PA (both in June). I suppose I'd better book a flight. Holidays! Hooray!

Tim (Tim), Friday, 3 March 2006 18:26 (twenty years ago)

>Do you folks know of any forums that mainly discuss the type of music ND covers? <

Heh heh, hate to do this again, but:

No Depression Top 40 of 2005

xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 18:27 (twenty years ago)

yeah, I don't know anything about the Silver Fox country stuff, Tim. I know there are plenty of country-soul comps out there, but I haven't got any of them, if they contain SSS/Fox material, or if they concentrate on people like Tex and Womack. I think the original David Allen Coe "Penitentiary Blues" came out on SSS in the late '70s. I need to talk to Mike Grey at the Country Music Hall of Fame, he'll know all about it, I reckon.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 3 March 2006 19:14 (twenty years ago)

alecia nugent CD is coffee-house tedium after that first track (which by the way is yet more proof of my "i like every song containing the word 'ponchatrain'" rule.) (second best song is probably "where his wheels left the road," about a drunk driving crash.) people who like alison krauss more than i do will be less bored by the CD than i am.

xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 19:24 (twenty years ago)

right off the bat the new B-Star EP *what we do* is a GIGANTIC improvement over the one from a couple years i mention above from when they were called battelstar and sounded like cake or whoever. to wit (1) first song "bootleg dreams" immediately might be one of my favorite 2006 singles (first tracks of EPs always count as singles); they've clearly been listening to big and rich (the first alt-country band to audibly do so?) and apparently hired their own cowboy troy (except, judging from the photo on the back of the EP, he's much SHORTER). this song is funkier than i would have guessed they were capable of; it rocks. and though the anti religious right stuff and pro union stuff (i ASSUME pro-union; gotta re-listen to that line actually) is fine the funniest part is when they say they're gonna rock down to Atlantic Avenue (since they're from Brooklyn, see); (2) "To Far Gone," girl-sung alt-country that namedropd george jones, otis redding, and nina simone; big deal who doesn't, but i like the hawaiian gutiar break; (3) "yellowbelly," another hick-hop rap, stiff turntables and rapping but funky swamp guitars and fiddles (rhyhmes with "paradiddles"), reminds me of rehab's *southern discomfort* (see link below)**, or maybe a country version of hip hop hoodios, but i end up liking it, anyway they're clearly vying here for a b&r opening spot, good for them, talking about how they're not some cliched hee haw hootenany sassafrass, but damn their DJ has a corny assed scratching technique; (4) "holla atcha," starts out like a '70s funk band, then the rapper comes in; groove gets very country-disco--cool, second best song so far after the opener; rapper shouts out to marvin gaye then he tells the girl he's singing to all the stuff he's gonna do for her tonight, and you hear the alt-country gal a little in the background and eventually there's some picking that pops like say what hot buttered popcorn okay maybe not THAT funky but i still highly approve; (5) slowed down to a whiskeyfied dance drag, "ain't had a job in over a year" -- okay, this reminds me a LOT of A-3 (see: where I talked about battlestar america up above), but this time they're pulling it off, and the guy who's singing makes this sound sweeter and more moving than the girl who sang track two, though her feathery little voice still sounds okay in the background and eventually she gets a little less feathery and sleepy-eyed at which point she improves, and then they stretch it out with fiddles; (6) hambone/thigh-slapping/spoon-playing beats mixed into scratching that sounds better now, sorta like young mc's "bust a move" in fact (or maybe that's the drums), then singing in rhythm from both the guy and gal ("i can't spring for drinks at these new york bars, i don't have fun there anyway...got my furniture off the street...i can't go out like i used to, my apartment ain't got no heat," so she's gonna visit him all the time, yeah this sounds like boho brooklyn in '06 to me.)

** - http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0148,couch,30258,22.html

xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 22:32 (twenty years ago)

oops, track 5 is called "recession"; track 6 is "someone like me."

xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 22:39 (twenty years ago)

> they're gonna rock down to Atlantic Avenue <

A la Eddy Grant, if that wasn't already obvious.

Turns out the Cowboy Troy soundalike rapper, Dolio the Sleuth, IS also their turntablist, and he's probably not as inept at the latter as I suggest above; his scratching sounds less clumsy on subsequent listens. Six other people (all lighter skinned than Dolio) in the band. Singers are Rench (male) and Veronica Dougherty (female). Bass player is named "gAOl."

xhuxk, Saturday, 4 March 2006 18:10 (twenty years ago)

I just returned Carrie to the library (from where I'm posting now); only gave her a couple of spins but I think she's got something, even if the something hasn't evolved into a personality and even though Dann Huff productions like this do tend towards the ho-hum. Best track is the one where she takes her key and cuts a big gouge in the cheaters car; he may cheat on the next one but won't cheat on her again. The singing on that one is basically blues, even if the song isn't (it probably is, actually, even though it's not twelve bar I-IV-I-V-IV-I). Listened to five tracks on the Jessi Colter and liked her voice but thought the material tended towards the standard for blues-based country (whereas Carrie's had more bite, even if her voice isn't as interesting as Jessi's).

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 4 March 2006 20:10 (twenty years ago)

I posted this on the teenpop thread (Chuck wrote about the Hazzard compilation last year; obv. I like the Jessica track a couple scadzillion times more than he does):

OK, today's booty from the library consists of Lizzie McGuire, DVD, episodes 12 through 22; Talk to Her, a film by Pedro Almodóvar; The Dukes of Hazzard (CD not DVD); Buddy Jewell Times Like These. I suspect that the Jewell and the Almodóvar won't qualify as teenpop, though I haven't listened or watched yet, and you never know. I'll report back on Lizzie McGuire (so far Hilary Duff is a complete cipher to me, even though I love "Come Clean" and "Fly"). Which leaves The Dukes of Hazzard, which I've had on continuous play all afternoon and is chock full of greatness, including as its leadoff (speaking of booty) a very strange and spooky version of "These Boots Are Made for Walkin'" by Jessica Simpson. What it is (speaking of the conversation between black and white that Simon Reynolds doesn't think exists right now) is a Jam & Lewis dance track, almost all of it treble percussion and handclap, Jessica making her voice uncharacteristically thin, sketching in the melody, with banjo and harmonica occasionally inserted, a bit of guitar from Willie Nelson, almost no bottom. And it leads into maybe the most searing Allman Brothers song ever, "One Way Out," and for the rest of the album (with the exception of a negligible Willie cut at the end) you've got blistering '70s Southern rock by the likes of Skynyrd and Hatchett and Vaughan and Daniels (speaking of black-white conversations from the past), and blistering recent faux Southern rock by the Blueskins and the Blues Explosion that matches the Allmans song in quality and actually outdoes the Skynyrd, Hatchett, Vaughn, Daniels stuff. And - speaking of bubblegum as Southern rock or vice versa (producers Kasenetz & Katz, the fellows who'd brought us "Yummy Yummy Yummy" and "Chewy Chewy" and "1, 2, 3 Red Light") - there's Ram Jam's "Black Betty," which is 120 years of American stomp condensed into three minutes. The Blueskins and Blues Explosion tracks totally floor me. The only thing I know about the Blueskins is they're Yorkshire Brits on the same label as the Arctic Monkeys. Their song - "Change My Mind - starts with an acoustic slide, but in its heart it's scrappy slimy vinyl-pants L.A. sleaze metal (which was the teenpop of the late '80s). The Blues Explosion's "Burn It Off" reminds me of the Johnny Thunders Heartbreakers, a great Stonesy groove but with a girl-groupish call-and-response type poppiness. I don't know if Jon Spencer quite has the voice for what he's trying to do, but Thunders didn't either, yet it worked often enough and so does this. I've got one Blues Explosion album that I played a couple of times and set aside for its being too distant and mannered, but maybe I need to go back and rethink it. I'd liked Spencer's sense of humor back in Pussy Galore.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 5 March 2006 04:04 (twenty years ago)

what i wrote last year, for whatever it's worth (and for whatever it's worth, as I recall, Thunders at least used to *try* to sing. Though maybe I should go back and listen to that Spencer cut regardless. The guy's refusal to write actual songs has always annoyed me):

>the *dukes of hazzard* soundtrack is an excellent if somewhat obvious collection of redneck rock of many stripes, though even i can't stand jessica's breathy "boots" remake. only recent country artist on it is montgomery gentry, whose "hillbilly shoes" is better than i'd remembered. but there's also allmans, skynyrd, molly hatchet, james gang, stevie ray vaughn, cdb ("south's gonna do it again" always amazes me by how JAZZY it is -- it basically turns into glen miller in the middle!), and the completely insane looong version of ram jam' s "black betty", which my otherwise now wu tang obsessed kid sherman made me play six times in the rentacar this weekend (he'd never heard it before. he hated molly hatchet's singer, though, and whenever montgomery gentry came on he said "is this big & rich"?) also a dirty southern culture on the skids party number that blowfly or hasil adkins would appreciate, a typically worthless piece of blackface bullshit by jon spencer, and a rocking cowpunk tune by the blueskins, who i never heard of before. anybody know who they are?
(i do think "boots" by jessica is "interesting", i guess. kelefah wrote a pretty smart review of it in the times friday; it's quite the montage, with that reggae dancehall beat and all. but i could give a fuck for most reggae dancehall beats, you know? and britney did the same montage better in her 'i got that {boom boom}' ying yang and banjo collab last year. and i wish jessica sang instead of getting hushy {just like i wish the ying yangs weren't getting hushy so much lately}; she has a reasonably tolerable singing voice {not as cool as her sister's, but what the heck}; why not use it? plus ram jam's extended 'black betty' has a WAY better and more surprising hoedown in the middle, believe you me; whoever i decided to include it on this album is probably a genius.)
-- xhuxk (xedd...), July 25th, 2005.

xhuxk, Sunday, 5 March 2006 16:06 (twenty years ago)

Anthony reviewed the OST somewhere in glowing terms, I remember.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 5 March 2006 17:16 (twenty years ago)

Buddy Jewell: still boring.
-- Haikunym (zinogu...), April 19th, 2005. (Haikunym)


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Erin Condo, *Leaving Songs* (Joyland Music): not boring at all
But Haikunym is OTM about Buddy Jewell

-- xhuxk (xedd...), April 19th, 2005.

And I just finished reading Werner's pan from last year of the Buddy Jewell album (and listening to said snooze of an album). So where did I get the idea he was critically respected?

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 5 March 2006 21:18 (twenty years ago)

so i wound up really enjoying the rhonda towns album, and i was going to say that i didn't have anything to say about it regardless, and then i put one of my favorite tracks, "storm before the calm", back on, and it hit me where her soul music element might come from: dionne warwick (early '80s "heartbreaker" era I guess)! that's who her singing in this song reminds me of, anyway (dionne via reba maybe?), though "go on with yourself" is more '70s loretta lynn. i also really like "somethin' better," "i wanna be loved be you," "slow rain" (the dobie gray cover), and to some extent "plenty more love" (which has the soggiest countrypolitan backup voices). "the lord's prayer" probably bugs me as much because it's a capella as because she forgives her debtors, i realized. 10 songs total, including four 2:37 or shorter, and none over 3:48, so it's all pretty economical. and i notice hargus "pig" robbins is listed amid the piano credits, so i'm guessing maybe some money went into it. it definitely *sounds* to me like pro product. ("tracks 7,8,9,10 recorded & mixed by george clinton," too, but that must be a different george clinton, right?) beyond that, though, i wish i had the language to explain why i like pop-country of this particular stripe. (which stripe, as i may have pointed out before, is rather anachronistic -- it sounds more to me like stuff that would have hit the country charts 15 years ago than stuff hitting the country charts now. i wonder if that's on purpose.)

xhuxk, Monday, 6 March 2006 15:51 (twenty years ago)

got to get Rhonda, sounds like. Norro Wilson worked on a lot of stuff here, including the Sara Evans record before her stint with Paul Worley.

one last time listening to Tres Chicas. it's so obviously the kind of folkie-jazz they used to make in the '70s. I detect no feeling at all; in fact, something about this reminds me of the Association, except not as lively. "Man of the people flying first class" indeed. This is like eating a whole bag of yogurt-covered malted-milk balls in the parking lot of Whole Foods. the electric-piano textures are particularly annoying. if the whole record had been at the tempo of the last song, "It's All Right," I might actually be able to listen to it again. but I give it points as one of the most anachronistic records of the year, hints of the New Seekers except the New Seekers were smart enough to cover Roy Wood and Richard Thompson. Roy's right upthread, if this is ND listeners' idea of fonk-ee with them purty harmonies on top, which is what I get from the way the rhythm section interacts and the way you can almost hear the guitarist grinning as he makes a few "rude" noises in "It's All Right," then it is indeed flat-line-the-audience time... xp

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 6 March 2006 16:46 (twenty years ago)

various country notes
josh turners new single is really fantastic, hot, bordering on dominating, really sexy, and really quite subtle in its eroticism, and the video, with a suprising lack of flesh, is equally precise in its seductive intentions

the brokeback soundtrack, with 2(!) rufus wainwright songs, and the argentine playing leone, should be much worse then it is, rufus covers king of the road in a really hard way, w/o the decadence or cabaret loucheness that i expect of him.

the new neko album could have been amazing, and her skills as a photogrpaher suprised (she did the interior cover art) and i have listended to it four or five times, and i still remain undecided, my review will be for left hip this time, and well we will see what i think in the end, im really ambigous about it right now.

there is a strange essay in this weeks london review of books, found here, in a round about way about the myth of johnny cash, that i think bitches about the lack of authencitiy, but remains unsettled, but i think that having someone willing to deconstruct the cult around cash's sainthood, to talk about how much he liked money, to point out his sentimentality is a really impt thing--as i think it is to talk about vivian, how badly he treated her, and ias an extension,much domestic shit that june had to do , how much june gave up[ her life for his: heres the article :http://lrb.co.uk/v28/n05/sans01_.html

there is a new comp of junes work with johnny out there, i bought it for 12 bucks canadian, so it must be basically free in america, and i think as something that foregrounds her contributions is really impt to have, and its got a really precise mix.

big and rich are playing stadia here, and in calgary--are they that big, or will their be lots of empty seats?

anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 04:06 (twenty years ago)

Jace Everett = pretty danged good singer/songwriter, mostly singer. He describes the album as "no bullshit," I'm not sure that's accurate but it's stripped down all right: ten tracks, 34 minutes, good thing I got it for free or I'd be pissed about the investment. Okay enough voice, good bad-attitude stuff like telling his paramour "I wanna do bad things with you", some sweeter stuff too. Anyone else heard it?

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 05:20 (twenty years ago)

Anthony I feel the same way as you about the Neko Case. I ran out yesterday and bought it (day of release over here, rare for me to bother doing that). From time to time I find myself tinking how gorgeous it is, but then losing the thread. Maybe it's the kind of record which requires familiarity to becoem a firm favourite. I end up thinking it could do with more hooks, though.

Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 11:39 (twenty years ago)

just read Sony's description of Jace, Haik. this sounds like something I need to hear, I haven't seen this one come thru from the label yet. looks like Jace has written with Radney Foster et al. so is it a full-band kind of record? just him and geetar? similar to Radney's new 'un (which I briefly described above as kind of a pubrock/rootsy move, although that was on one or two listens...)?

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 15:54 (twenty years ago)

Neko's problem is her band(s) - too much prairie ambiance and faux-Morricone atmospheric shit (isn't Calexico involved in this new one somehow?) - her lyrics are fascinatingly knotty and her voice is always amazing, and Fox Confessor isn't a BAD record at all, it's just hard to listen to it and not think about how much better she'd sound with a livelier band - a few noirish mood-pieces are fine, but "John Saw That Number" is the only song here with a pulse.

Josh Love (screamapillar), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 17:59 (twenty years ago)

Edd: Everett's album is a full-band thing, there are just a couple of Radney songs; the best one is one Everett writes by hisself. Produced by Mark White, so you know it sounds good. The chord changes are pretty rockish or even new wavish at times, betraying his bar-band bass-playing past, but I'd compare his mindset to Gary Allan (not his voice, though, which is good but not Allan-good).

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 18:05 (twenty years ago)

gotcha on Jace, Haik. got one coming.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 18:50 (twenty years ago)

what kind of messed-up world is it when I get a promo copy of a country record before edd hurt does?

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 19:02 (twenty years ago)

Music Editor Bill Friskics-Warren said adios to the Nashville Scene today. Something about "editorial differences with the new owners." Shocked I am not.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 04:57 (twenty years ago)

Time to polish off the ol' resumes and start dancing to the devil's fiddle, everyone!

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 05:03 (twenty years ago)

This is like eating a whole bag of yogurt-covered malted-milk balls in the parking lot of Whole Foods.

I'd be so happy if more music crits assessed things this way. Hearts.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 05:47 (twenty years ago)

Neko's problem is her band(s)

no i think tim's right, the problem is with hooks. the bands are ok, the sadies especially (i'm not a huge sadies fan, but i think they back up neko pretty well). i think fox confessor is about 3/4 good. but good isn't great, and the 1/4 that isn't even good bogs the rest down. she's idiosyncratic and all, but i can't help liking her best when she treats herself to a real actual tune.

the album also isn't country or even alt-country or anything particularly related to either.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 05:48 (twenty years ago)

but her voice is closer to kitty wells then almost anyone singing to day....and i dont think that she knows how to deal with collabotors, all of her work is done with other people, and people who she is often st ronger then, but she doesnt know how to trust her own work or sublimate it to work well with others...

kelly hogan and neko case should have blown the roof off of everything in site. it didnt.

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 06:04 (twenty years ago)

jace everett album is sounding really good, which, as somebody may have already suggested, probably has a lot more to do with the songs than with the singing. if gary allan was singing (or maybe montgomery gentry on "between a father and a son," which i haven't decided if i like or not), this would probably be a GREAT album. as it is, it's just fine, and i don't think jace is a bad singer -- he's perfectly competent, more than you can say for plenty of country songwriters. and i'm assuming he IS a songwriter, since he gets lead songwriting credit on most of the songs that are jumping out at me (bad things, gold, nowhere in the neighborhood, between a father and a son). more listens may well help me connect with his voice more, i'm not sure. either way, the guy's a real talent, and this is a really good record.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:21 (twenty years ago)

kelly hogan and neko case should have blown the roof off of everything in site. it didnt.

yeah. i still think they need to do a gospel album together. or maybe a collection of girl-group covers. or both.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:27 (twenty years ago)

>ten tracks, 34 minutes, good thing I got it for free or I'd be pissed about the investment. <

I don't get this, though. Ten tracks in 34 mintues is a BETTER investment than 14 tracks in 50 minutes including a load of crap. Seems to me this is the length most albums SHOULD be. (I was gonna say most "country" albums, but why limit it to country? Country just tends to have a better grasp of economy than most genres these days.)

Also, fwiw, I've never been much of a fan of other records Radney Foster's been involved in (though maybe that just means I haven't heard enough of them, or I haven't noticed his involvement.) (And Matt is right to point out that Foster's involvement is limited here.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:27 (twenty years ago)

Sony Nashville is like, 30 miles from my front door, so I don't know why I haven't gotten Jace yet. I corrected that yesterday.

the only really good song on Radney is the first one. kinda like Stealer's Wheel or something. it's a strange record that has an '80s production esthetic. sort of like a minor Edmunds or Lowe record, I guess--but not as funny, and I don't think Foster writes as well as Lowe. maybe he should just do covers, like Edmunds? I dunno. he's in Nashville, he is a songwriter. no patch on Elizabeth McQueen--they ought to get together.

speaking of Ms. McQueen, I wish I was flying to Texas so I could attend the Pub Rock Hoot Night on the 12th. her SXSW postcard says she has a version of "Cruel to Be Kind" at www.elizabethmcqueen.com/mp3/cruel.mp3

not happy about what's happening at the Scene here. Bill's gonna be missed.

xps

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:57 (twenty years ago)

Also a free version of "What a Waste" at www.elizabethmcqueen.com/mp3/whatawaste.mp3. I haven't downloaded it yet, but I did download "Cruel to Be Kind" and my initial reaction is "eh" (which was my reaction to the original song in its day, too) though as always I like her voice, and there's something interesting going on with the accompanying vocals, or so I recall from last night when I listened.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:53 (twenty years ago)

(Matos is leaving the Seattle Weekly, and I have no idea if that's owing to creative differences w/ new management or his finding something else he'd rather do more.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:56 (twenty years ago)

I really have to say I'm impressed with Jessi Colter's new one, "Out of the Ashes." I note that it just charted on Billboard, with I gather is her first solo disc to chart in almost 30 years. Not surprised, given how good this one actually is. I really like it from start to finish. Very earthy, very natural sounding record. The "Starman," "You Can Pick 'Em," and "Velvet and Steel" tracks really let her rip. Some nice bluesy, rockin,' tonkin' sounds that obviously draw upon her influences, but with a whole new sense of freedom. I had forgotten just how good she was, both as a singer and a writer. I have to say the slow songs are just as powerful, for me. "So Many Things," is about as huanting as you can get on disc, these days. The duet with Ray Herndon, "Never Got Over You," is another winner.

I've read about the comparison of the album having a "Stonesy" sound, but i think that comes more from Don Was' loose, expansive production. The whole record has a nice & gritty, greasy feel to it, and the songs really stick in the brain without being cheap at all. I think it's just a brutally "honest" record. Was's production, again, is top-notch, and Ray Kennedy's engineering is just as good. The musicians are some of the best in the business, too. Most of all, though, Colter really puts her own stamp on this music. Honestly, I can't believe her voice is still this good. In fact, it's even better than her 70s work, in some ways. I guess she aged like a nice bottle of wine. All in all, this is the most impressive set i've heard yet this year. First listen and you're impressed. Three listens and you're blown away. It's a must-but piece, IMO. Great to see her back and so solid.

jakobransom, Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:34 (twenty years ago)

wow:

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=1702714&page=1&CMP=OT

xhuxk, Friday, 10 March 2006 03:37 (twenty years ago)

I just posted this on the rolling teenpop thread. Marit Larsen had been the shy member of M2M, a duo that was possibly the best teenpop group of the last decade; now she's 21 and has an album Under the Surface (so far only available in Norway) that's something else entirely, at least on the three tracks I've heard so far, with a carnival or county fair or travelogue feel (in other words I don't have a clue how to describe it) yet with singer-songwriter let's-examine-the-intricacies-of-our-relationship lyrics that with her delivery come out way more joyous - somehow, even though two of the three tracks I've heard are about breakups - than singer-songwriter let's-examine-the-intricacies-of-our-relationship lyrics ever do. Anyway, this is what I posted:

Holy goddamn shit! I'm now on my third Marit Larsen track, "Only a Fool," and this one is the country song of the year so far. It'd be too "quirky" or something to ever get country airplay even if country programmers in the U.S. heard it, and I doubt that Marit's trying to get country play, but it's got a banjo or a mandolin or both, a wonderfully catchy rhythm that dominates the start, great hand-clapping; the song drives forward but wiggles sideways at the same time with little twinkletoe steps. And, true to form, the words make it yet another I'm-not-going-back-to-you song, sung in the same happy sly chirp as always: "Well, I say I found the letters you wrote/Mine was the smile and the life that you broke/Mine was the story that you told your friends/Yours were the demons you couldn't defend." Then she goes, "Understand me as of lately I've learned a thing or two," and the twist she puts on "two" could be Miranda Lambert or Natalie Maines. Her voice is a lot smaller than theirs, and I wouldn't say it has a lot of emotional juice - she's not a wailer - but she has a superb instinct for knowing when to insert an extra syllable into a word, when to let another word fall nonchalantly, when to add a momentary, wispy cry.

I'll tell you, the other songs on here will have to be complete dogs for this album not to make my Pazz & Jop ballot. (Assuming I get to hear the album. Amazon doesn't yet know of it, at least in the U.S. Not that I could afford an import album.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 10 March 2006 05:26 (twenty years ago)

Oh and here's where Marit streams her video and has substantial clips from another five tracks on the album, including "Only a Fool."

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 10 March 2006 05:29 (twenty years ago)

Did you notice that Marit's new single got much the highest average mark of the year so far in the Stylus Singles Jukebox?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 10 March 2006 13:20 (twenty years ago)

Bizarre, my neanderthal downloadaphobia is starting to make me feel months behind on TEEN-POP, of all things. (Though it's not really phobia; it's just that I have so many CDs piled up I can hold in my hands that I don't get *around* to downloading, and anyway, I don't trust my judgement when I listen to music that way. It's too sterile, too much like going to a listening session where I'm not allowed to hold the record, too fucking transitory, sorry. Music is meant to be lived with, and that's just not how I live. So who knows, maybe I'll try to BUY the Marit Larsen and Aly & AJ albums someday, just like the last Toby Keith album and the Akon album and Ha-Ash and Reggaeton Ninos other stuff I still haven't gotten around to. Or maybe I won't.)

Meanwhile, I'm listening to *I Know You Feel It,* self-released 2004 album by Blazing Country featuring the Lybarger Family, a six-member Missouri family band (i.e, near as I can tell, Blazing Country ARE the Lybarger family -- a mom and a dad and their three sons and one daugher, apparently) discovered on cdbaby (but not LISTENED TO there -- see, that's how much an old-school asshole I am; even with cdbaby bands, I drop them a note and don't listen until I get the CD in my grubby little hands, even though I COULD listen to their music right there on the cdbaby page. You know, I'd rather listen while I'm doing other things but take little notes on the CD cover while the CD's spinning. And not stream a song at a time, which isn't accidental enough and never works like a CD playing through in the background etc etc etc and don't give me shit about it because I've got fingers plugging my ears okay?) Anyway. Blazing Country. Best stuff is either hard/sometimes-fast/somewhat-dark country rock sung by son Dallas(opener "Doin' Time" with tough words and mood worthy of Montgomery Gentry, "Drivin Around Texas With You," maybe "That Left One" which unlike the Bikini Kill obscenity suggested by its title is actually apparently about a guy getting stood Gilbert O'Sullivan style up at the altar) or boppier, poppier, Diddley/Willie & Hand Jive/"Faith"/jitterbug-swing-beat stuff sung by daughter Dana ("Thing Called Love" and "Have I Got Blues for You," both probably a little too lite somehow, and "No More Excuses," which may well be the best song on the album and where Dana Lybarger--who to my eyes looks quite cute and curvy on the cover--comes closest vocally to Natalie/Miranda territory.) I like how these people mix the modern tough-guy redneck rock thing with the cute swing nostalgia; is anybody else doing that?

xhuxk, Friday, 10 March 2006 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Oooops, copyright 2003 not 2004. (Still current in my book, though.)

xhuxk, Friday, 10 March 2006 14:45 (twenty years ago)

Music is meant to be lived with, and that's just not how I live.

I dunno, Chuck -- keep the songs on your desktop or in a close to hand iPod and you'll definitely live with them, as I've found. But I understand the comfort of experience.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:04 (twenty years ago)

Just not the same, Ned. (And my only desktop is at work, by the way. And I don't want an ipod. But yeah, like I've said too many times, if I didn't get 500 CDs in the mail every week I'd no doubt feel differently. Probably my aversion is just part of my weeding process.)

xhuxk, Friday, 10 March 2006 15:09 (twenty years ago)


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