Dave Matthews Band : Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated.

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Trust me, it ain't this one.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 June 2003 18:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Parsing Xgau, I believe.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 9 June 2003 18:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Or Nas-JZ.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 9 June 2003 18:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Technotronic is better than Dave Matthews on the strength of 'Pump Up The Jam' alone

― Millar (Millar), Monday, 9 June 2003 19:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes blount once you find the quote where I cop to trading guns to crazy right-wing strongmen under the table then it will be just like reagan.
"Welll...yes...mistakes were made, but I know that My people did nothing wrong. They are all patriotic freedom fighters."

Crime Fighters == Fight Crime
Fire Fighters == Fight Fire
Freedom Fighters == ??

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 9 June 2003 19:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Technotronic is better than Dave Matthews on the strength of 'Pump Up The Jam' alone

Not sure that's what's meant by "jam band," Millar, but run with that thought!

― Sean Thomas (sgthomas), Monday, 9 June 2003 19:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Crime Fighters == Fight Crime
Fire Fighters == Fight Fire
Freedom Fighters == ??

Further evidence that Custos Epsilon is truly deserving of the title, LORD. SALUT!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 9 June 2003 19:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually, I kinda sorta stole that bit from George Carlin.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 9 June 2003 19:44 (twenty-three years ago)

pedantic

― Marien, Monday, 9 June 2003 23:04 (twenty-three years ago)

That doesn't change the fact that its a very good question.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 01:10 (twenty-three years ago)

I was going to make an argument about why all the people talking shit about someone elses music are fucking lamers, but I decided that it was a waste of time. Go fuck yourselves and come back when you've actually accomplished something important.

― matt klasdjasdfjklf, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 05:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Done and done!

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 05:48 (twenty-three years ago)

oops are both "dones" referring to the same thing??

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 05:54 (twenty-three years ago)

i'll never tell

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 05:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Hey idiot boy -- this is ILM, it's a *MUSIC DISCUSSION BOARD* Invariably there is going to be some differences of opinion regarding certain artists (not just your precious Dave Matthews) and, summarily, a certain degree of "talking some shit" is going to go down. Go cower under your duvet if you can't handle it, but chastizing folks for having and expressing entirely grounded and justifiable opinions is a ridiculous statement.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 11:57 (twenty-three years ago)

''okay first I'm with dan at being pissed at the regulars acting like fucktards and baiting obv. v. young foax for no good reason -- go pick on ppl. yr. own size.''

isn't sterling assuming these ppl are 15? or have i missed the bit where DMB fans state their age?

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 12:03 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.rockpalastarchiv.de/bild/bild/kj1.jpg

they're all under 21 surely!

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 12:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Sterling is making assumptions about the DMB posters which are more condescending than what he's accusing Ned and Aaron of doing.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 12:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Er, what Dan said. I had been wondering about that.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 12:20 (twenty-three years ago)

That's a bit stereotypical. But then I wouldn't expect much better of you guys. I'm 32

― James, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 12:23 (twenty-three years ago)

YOU ANCIENT FOGEY

(I'm 30)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 12:32 (twenty-three years ago)

I've always suspected that the average humanoid doesn't gain useful musical taste until after the age of 15 (hence the existence of Kiss, the Knack and the Insane Clown Posse), and loses it after the age of 40. (hence the existence of Neil Diamond, Michael Bolton and Celine Dion.)
Does anyone think this notion might have a genuine basis in nuerochemistry or is that the Michael Bolton fans were ALWAYS sans-taste motards?

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 13:21 (twenty-three years ago)

(side question: and why does Jaz have a wedge of lime stuck to the side of his hand?)

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 13:22 (twenty-three years ago)

yet more generalizing from custos shockah!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 13:44 (twenty-three years ago)

I formed my ICP love at age 22. (Granted it faded a lot by age 28 but _Ringmaster_, _Riddlebox_ and the attendant EPs are all still fantastic.)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 13:51 (twenty-three years ago)

why does Jaz have a wedge of lime stuck to the side of his hand?

When the apocalypse comes, you don't want to be caught without your limes.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 13:52 (twenty-three years ago)

hahaha, you'll get scurvy!

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 13:55 (twenty-three years ago)

yet more generalizing from custos shockah!
Well, thats *is* my theory. If you think it's incomplete, please enlighten us to how you modify it to bring it closer to your vision of reality.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 13:59 (twenty-three years ago)

But Custos 95% of ILM is in those brackets and at least 60% of us have shit taste. How do ya splain that?

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I discovered Duran Duran at about 12 or 13. And Duran Duran made me the person I am today!

― kate (kate), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Brain interference caused by cosmic rays?

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Brain interference caused by cosmic rays?
(xpost)

I discovered Duran Duran at about 12 or 13. And Duran Duran made me the person I am today!
In my book that means you have good taste.

Waitasec? 60%? How'd you come up with that figure, Yanc3y?

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:06 (twenty-three years ago)

I discovered Duran Duran at about 12 or 13. And Duran Duran made me the person I am today!
In my book that means you have good taste.

But then I've disproved your theory because I gained that taste at a tender age too young to register on your radar! (Maybe girls mature earlier? Oh no, because hence the existence of gloop like 5ive, etc.)

― kate (kate), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Though on second thought, I quite like that one 5ive song with the TV's in the video...

― kate (kate), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:15 (twenty-three years ago)

I think girls mature faster than boys because as adolescents they get earlier access to boobs.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:17 (twenty-three years ago)

5ive has videos???

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Yarrrrrrr... I was terrified by the giant skyscrapers as projection screens one for "We Will Rock You".

Are we talking about the same band? Brit boyband from about 3 or 4 years ago?

― kate (kate), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Same band. They just played a house show in Rhode Island 12 years ago that someone told J-Dub about, and now he's convinced they're hardfuckingcore with masks & sheeit, yo!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Someone named "5ive" played at a mill show last summer. I was really drunk and impatient with them.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:31 (twenty-three years ago)

12 years ago, the brit boyband 5ive would have been, oh... 10?

― kate (kate), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:33 (twenty-three years ago)

wait! I saw:
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=11:35:50|AM&sql=Byidxlfhe0cqu
not:
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=11:35:50|AM&sql=B4c831v7jzzxa

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Once a neighbor of mine who was a tennis player got a new CD player for his Volvo. He told me and a friend to check it out. We sat in the car and he showed off his new system by playing Led Zeppelin. I was like, "Sounds alright to me."

Then he popped in a Dave Matthews Band CD. He said, "Ya know, Dave Matthews Band is just good fucking music, man."

"Just good fucking music, man."

I didn't like it one bit.

Not one bit.

― Cub, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:42 (twenty-three years ago)

This thread is getting too unweildly to load for my poor, outdated, wheezing computer. Thus, I must excuse/recuse myself from this debate from this point further. If anyone wants to start up a sequel thread or something, I'm all for it. Until such time, however, my final word on the subject: The Dave Matthews Band is comprised of, in all probability, perfectly kind, considerate, intelllient, compassionate human beings with all the best of intentions, but their music is still dull as dishwater. I don't decry anyone's right to listen to and enjoy it, but just don't try to tell me how fuckin' great it is.....`cos it ain't.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 16:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Someone wrote on the Eagles CorD thread that the Eagles combined the worst qualities of pop (mindless formulaic drivel-ness) with the worst of rock (bloated self-importance). The DMB are like what you get when you combine the worst of pop, rock and jazz.

― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 20:18 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm overwhelmed by the originality (or lack there of) in that post.

― james, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 21:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Taking Sides: Dave Matthews Band vs. Coldplay
yet Another anti DMB thread

― Climate Hunter, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 21:25 (twenty-three years ago)

yet Another anti DMB thread

Oh come on! You can READ, can't you?

― J (Jay), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 22:10 (twenty-three years ago)

No.

― Climate Hunter, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 23:13 (twenty-three years ago)

The other day my brother's friend's band started off their cover of "All Along the Watchtower" by declaring
"He're's a little song Bob Dylan wrote, Jimi Hendrix made rockin', and Dave Matthews took to a whole nother level. Now, we're going to see what we can do with it."

― Applepie Baseball, Wednesday, 11 June 2003 00:31 (twenty-three years ago)

haha - bono to thread

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 00:32 (twenty-three years ago)

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