Ciara - 'Fantasy Ride'

I think if it hadn't all been leaked for like a year it'd feel more fresh and exciting, as it is it's a minor mis-step but I'm sure her 4th album will get her back on track

yeah you may be right but it's still disappointing to me cuz this was supposed to be her ~shit~, you know? i do really like this album but anything less than mindblowing is disappointing really

Also I think Young Jeezy narrowly edges out Tom Waits and Bob Dylan at the top of my list of people who should never, ever be allowed near autotune. He sounds ridiculous.

"work" and "pucker up" and the ones like that just fall kinda flat to me

"ciara to the stage", "keep dancing" and ESPECIALLY "lover's thing" sound like the best

What idiot put this thing together? It's one of the worst sequenced albums I've ever heard, given that it plods and drags through the first half and absolutely FLIES through the second half.

lol i was gonna completely agree w/ u but it's the second half that i can't get with right now

yeah "echo" is straight up inexcusable and like i said she's soooo great over airy ballads - she should just make a whole album of those imo

and stuff on the leak is so much better - "rattla" and "click flash" for starters

xp yeah I know, I was so excited for this project at first and everything about it practically has been disastrous. And now it's going to sell barely 70K copies first week... it's really sad actually, I think if they'd released "High Price" as the first single like they planned on doing then none of this would've happened.

ESPECIALLY "lover's thing"

knew you'd love this

"I Don't Remember" is already one of my favorite Polow productions... kind of reminds me of Goldfrapp

and stuff on the leak is so much better - "rattla" and "click flash" for starters

Not including these two, especially Click Flash, is inexcusable.

yeah "Lover's Thing" is nice, but it's kind of a standard L.O.S. beat so I can't get that excited about it... "Keep Dancin' On Me" on the other hand... MASSIVE.

btw - have los da maestro and terius ever made a song that's not a non-classic? they're like... 9 for 9 or something?

er that's not a classic i guess i mean

one of my favorite leaks:

ack, too drunk to commmennntate now but:

I think if it hadn't all been leaked for like a year it'd feel more fresh and exciting

and

I think if they'd released "High Price" as the first single like they planned on doing then none of this would've happened.

otm.

i think it's a really good album...actually a lot better than i was expecting after the botched campaign. sequencing is pretty perfect, dunno what matt is on about! big insane uptempos ==> slow down ==> club jams ==> abstract close. obv 'echo' and 'i'm on' should be on the album proper but what can one do...

interesting: 'turntables', despite no promotion in its own right whatsoever, is in the UK itunes top 40. looks like leaving cbreezy on it was a good sales tactic :/ and also :(

"i want to beat your face in with a vinyl record, baby" is a pretty romantic lyric, dunno what you're on about lex

pucker up is like some vintage girls aloud shit it's great

"I don't remember" is gorgeous. By very far my fave on this (which otherwise is pretty meh after a few listens).
It has a bit of the sweet/melancholia vibe of "why should I be sad" on britney's blackout.

i miss the days when she was just a crunk rapper or whatever

what do you mean ?

The whole album feels VERY britney to me.

"the days when she was just a crunk rapper"

It has a bit of the sweet/melancholia vibe of "why should I be sad" on britney's blackout.

― AleXTC, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 15:00 (6 hours ago) Permalink

i've been comparing keri's "where did he go" to "why should i be sad" a lot in my mind.

i'm excited to hear this album in more depth, can't really comment yet.

we put this on last night, and had to turn it off after the 7th or 8th track and put on the keri album.

the most interesting thing i heard was Work. and i didn't completely mind Like a surgeon.

but yeah my bf and i defffinitely turned off by it. not even the production was really happening for me.

Dude listen to 'Keep Dancing' if you didn't make it that far.

pretty

And you don't like "I don't remember" ?
Still don't care about the rest but really like this one.

definitely didn't get to "i don't remember" ... listening now

ya, this is good. vocals sound good too.

I love the synth, background vocals and bass on it (especially when it's just instrumental, right at the end). the melody, is nice too.
I guess that's the subject of the song that makes it kinda blackout/britney-esque !

odd how different tracks on this album affect people so entirely disparately; there's a lot of "i love it/i hate it" in this thread, but no one wants to chuck the whole album and i don't think there's a consensus top record... though LSM seems to be the least hatable.

i pretty much love all of it to varying degrees but the nature of how it's leaked means i've already evaluated most of the tracks individually, there isn't a great deal of new-to-me material and i'm more persnickety about how it could be better - like i'm sure i'd love this version of 'work' if i hadn't heard the leaks, the awesome beat is still intact and the breakdowns at the end are amazing, but the solo non-missy version is just so much better. and i've got about another cd's worth of leaks which never made it, and i could easily swap out 'like a surgeon' and 'g is for girl' for 'walk on the wall', 'feeling on my ass' and 'the fit of love'. ('rattla' would have been a good bonus track, it's 'oh' redux but still great.) you know, i think sticking with the three-disc concept could've actually worked!

it's really good to finally hear 'high price', 'i'm on' etc in HQ - like, whoa, these songs have BASS!

actually looking at the original concepts for the triple-disc...you know, this would've totally worked. i would have ADORED an album packaged like this:

GROOVE CITY
ciara to the stage
never ever
lover's thing
the fit of love
keep dancin' on me
one favor
i don't remember

CRUNK TOWN
high price
feeling on my ass
echo
roll call
g is for girl
go girl
rattla

KINGDOM OF DANCE
love sex magic
turntables
when i
pucker up
work
walk on the wall
i'm on

middle disc would be the weakest (albeit with the two standout tracks), but there isn't a single song i dislike in this package. re-record chris brown's vocal (ne-yo maybe?), chuck missy off 'work' and then we're talking.

ysi?

yeah ne-yo on turntables would be nice

Don't have much of an opinion on this -- not liking it as much as her other two by quite a bit, but don't dislike it, just think it's a little...I dunno, low-stakes? -- but "Like a Surgeon" could just as easily have been an R. Kelly track, albeit one with an uncomfortable Dead Ringers vibe. Also, if you're going to do a song with a "Weird Al" did, you should at least avoid the "sign a waiver" line. Or maybe that's great. Jury's out.

*with a title "Weird Al" did

It's one of the worst sequenced albums I've ever heard, given that it plods and drags through the first half and absolutely FLIES through the second half.

Agree with Matt's analysis although I kind of like it when albums pan out this way. Why put all the good stuff up front? Anyway, this record surprised me. I went in hopeful but sceptical, am coming out more of a fan than hitherto.

we put this on last night, and had to turn it off after the 7th or 8th track and put on the keri album.

what? this is so much better than the keri album

yeah it's not even close tbh

yeah it is close, Keri's album is slept on by you guys for some reason...

I only skip one track on Keri's album, whereas I skip like 4 on Ci's... but Ci's album is more adventurous and the highs are a bit better so I give her the edge

this is up there with anything on Fantasy Ride:

eh, the keri album has good songs on it, but completely fails at making me want to listen to it again. I'll probably take "Turnin' Me On" over anything on the Ciara album tho

turnin me on is the best out of both but ciara's album is - as you say - more adventurous, also

in a perfect world...: 60 mins
fantasy ride: 51 mins

and i think 'in a perfect world...' feels about 3 songs too long too

knock you down- 5:26
make love- 5:22
alienated- 4:34
tell him the truth- 4:47
where did he go- 4:55

none of these songs need to be anywhere near this long + the longest song on 'fantasy ride' is 4:33 ("never ever") and most don't even hit 4 mins. maybe i'm nitpicking but it's a big thing for me wrt keri

i probably don't like the Keri album anymore than i'd like the Ciara album if i heard it in full, but i love the fact that Keri had better first week sales

nah, i still think the keri album is leaps and bounds better than this.

How Does It Feel is seriously a huge, amazing mindfuck, kicks anything on Fantasy Ride's ass.

(not to mention Where Did He Go, Intuition, Slow Dance, Alienated, Energy, Turnin Me On)

knock you down- 5:26
make love- 5:22
alienated- 4:34
tell him the truth- 4:47
where did he go- 4:55

none of these songs need to be anywhere near this long + the longest song on 'fantasy ride' is 4:33 ("never ever") and most don't even hit 4 mins. maybe i'm nitpicking but it's a big thing for me wrt keri

― oj da hoosman (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:06 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i totally disagree, except i don't really like "knock you down" or "make love." but the others could just go on and on for all i care.

don't recall this debate?!

fantasy ride anyway

I finally came around on Ne Yo solely because of Knock You Down.
Wish I could find another track that he sounds that good on.

― an average room of dentists (forksclovetofu), Thursday, July 2, 2009 12:13 AM (1 year ago)

this guy

i know

wtf

you guys will be happy to hear that i found another track

it's one in a million fyi

man the new keri single is some fucking bruno mars ish

even tho ur rite that this gets better with distance, jordan, still don't kno the answer to
the great 'fantasy ride' vs 'in a perfect world...' debate of 09

― truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Sunday, October 17, 2010 5:32 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark

have i said that ciara to the stage is one of my favorites now? lol

like, really

that song is beautiful

<3

bashment remix of "love sex magic": http://www.mediafire.com/?2tmtmymneyy

"echo" is so flawless, ciara's second masterpiece after "promise" y/y?

now check that bauble on my finger so right, so right
got the windows tinted but i's catchin the light, the light
speakers thumpin hard to that 2pac and 50 track
they runnin to the corner yellin who dat, who dat
RUN IT BACK

yeah it is flawless

Guess I just got the knack, the knack
See a cutie, push up on him, yes I'm a mack, a mack
Ain't got no suave, I can travel from trap to trap
On my J.O., ayo, when my mac talk back
Run that back.

"Guess I just got the" is such a perfect tongue twister of hard and sort "g" sounds.

ajghjhfkd i still can't believe how much they fucked this campaign up, like how much could've gone right for her if they'd stuck with "high price" as the lead single, and "pucker up" was all swag swag swag several years before everything was

HIGH PRICE with big budget action video
ECHO as summer jam
PUCKER UP
WORK with video as it was

how do you fuck that up

as shoulda coulda woulda hit parades go i don't find that one very convincing. didn't they try to launch the album with "High Priced 'Oh' Rewrite" and it totally didn't work? at the moment Ciara's got probably her most buzzed about single in ages and you're still reliving the flops and trying to analyze how it might've gone differently.

sounds like somebody else on this board

lol

"high price" sounds literally nothing like "oh", and they didn't try to do anything with it

they tried to launch it with "go girl", failed, eventually got it off the ground with the very safe "love sex magic"

i heard "high price" on the radio a tiny lil bit, i assumed they made some attempt at making it a hit. it's not running off the "oh" template as obviously as all her little "promise" knockoffs but it's pretty clearly on the same vibe imo.

iirc it leaked, was slated as the single, was never made a single (never sent to itunes etc) and then 5 million delays ensued

the entire vibe is so different, "oh" is minimal and restrained and ciara's icy-cold, "high price" is explosive and huge-sounding and OTT and ciara's doing her nut in this mental operatic voice

there is absolutely no sonic similarity btw high price and oh except ludacris

and putting out get girl or whatever the fuck it was called and love sex magic over high price is pure insanity and somebody should be arrested for it

body party kinda sucks unfortunately

^pure distilled rongness

if you say so

it's p subtle and i think the greatness of it is in the leadup as opposed to a huge hook

but yea it definitely comes to life

been listening to ciara to the stage a lot lately