NPR's 150 Albums Made by Women

i was kinda kidding about melt banana (tho i do think they are better than stuff that made the list)

Ricki Lee Jones & Mary Margaret O'Hara (and Jefferson Airplane if they they include X and Sonic Youth) I'm more surprised that they didn't make it

MC Lyte I think that's a bit of an injustice (imo)

actually looking at Outic's list I AM kinda surprised Mazzy Star didn't make it

there's a lot of more recent critical faves that have faded from view (aforementioned tUNEyARDs, YYYs, etc.) that aren't included. They seem to fall into that middle ground of not-old-enough-to-be-a-shoe-in and too recent to have any sense of potential lasting impact/relevance. (In that respect the more poptimist - sorry Alfred - nominees got it easier, since they are validated by chart presence and continuing prominence as pop avatars)

maybe put Lana Del Rey into that recent critical faves category too? Lily Allen?

Lorde?

I thought Rickie Lee Jones did make it in? Pirates.

Five to fifteen years after a critical fanfare seems to be a dead zone where it remains to be seen if the next generation of music obsessives latch on to a record. Especially in recent decades when a those types of artists often have years between releases.

Pixies a big omission, imo. Shocked Lorde didn't make it in.

Pixies a big omission, imo

Last Splash >>>>> every Pixies album

I don't know about that, but definitely more women in the band.

X were in there Οὖτις, but yeah Royal Trux is a good shout. More soul and funk might have been good, the mention of Betty Davis upthread OTM. Fever Ray were on the Fader list but The Knife would be a good addition.

so yeah loads more possibilities but lots and lots of great stuff to check out on the NPR list!

ah sorry about X, missed that

xp

Cibo Matto a definite oversight. Sheesh, it's almost as if there are more than 150 great albums made by women!

So... how much of what we're seeing is a schism between "female artists male critics like" and "female artists female critics like" (since it was an all-female jury that compiled the list)?

Glasser doesn't have enough of a profile/impact to appear on lists like this but I wish she did because both albums I've heard by her are astonishing.

might also be an NPR vs not NPR schism xp

Seriously. It's a little shocking that only one Norah Jones album made the cut.

(NB, I enjoy the musical stylings of Norah Jones.)

i don't believe it's a schism so much as a nudge

Pirates was 49, yes. This is RLJ's response

Pirates NPR DJS vote'49th greatest female LP of all. 50 greater lps by women? i dont think so!! maybe 25.or30. but not 50. Mbarrassed.

— Rickie Lee Jones (@RickieLeeJones) July 25, 2017

NPR say "RickieLeeJones"NOT 1ofthe IMPORTANT female records!(chuck E, lastchanceTexaco)btFanny,YokoOno&Raincoats,Runaways&GraceJones ARE!

— Rickie Lee Jones (@RickieLeeJones) July 25, 2017

ha I almost listed Glasser, Dan. I like that first album a lot but it seems p obscure idk

Mbarrassed @ @RickieLeeJones

<3 that first RLJ tweet (no need to bash Fanny, Yoko, the Raincoats, the Runaways or Grace Jones, though)

is rickie lee not performing all of pirates at the launch party for this list

Heavenly - Le Jardin de Heavenly,

Seconded. Maybe there would've been an indie pop album in the next 50.

maybe put Lana Del Rey into that recent critical faves category too? Lily Allen?

― Οὖτις

When talking about recent critical favourites, St Vincent has to be the most surprising omission for me.

ooh yes good catch

I'm happy to see Cocteau Twins on the list (even though it's about 140 places too low) but I would have also liked to see Saint Etienne, Lush, The Sundays, Sterolab and Broadcast on there too.

Going back to Dionne Warwick, I can't say I've heard many of her albums but Just Being Myself from 73 is definitely worth a place. It's one of many great 70s soul albums I'm disappointed missed out. Caught Up by Millie Jackson, either of the first two Syreeta albums, Betty Wright's Hard To Stop, any of those brilliant Rufus/Chaka Khan albums, Woman To Woman by Shirley Brown, Ann Peebles, Margie Joseph and the biggest omission of all, no Minnie Riperton. They could have picked any of her first three albums, they're all incredible.

unsurprisingly I wish kristin hersh and stina nordenstam were on the list but am not surprised they're not. the surprise for me is Karin Dreijer/The Knife

also I would have chosen The Idler Wheel or When the Pawn over Tidal and From the Choirgirl Hotel or Boys for Pele over either of the ones on the list

I'm surprised The Knife didn't show up, as well.

I like Fader's list a lot more but disappointed Rachel Stevens didn't make it to either list :(

And why not?

http://themuse.jezebel.com/the-150-worst-albums-made-by-men-1797242454

Now we're getting somewhere! Though putting Slint on there at all, and placing Metal Machine Music at 27, is disappointingly challopsy.

I was all in on that list until this entry

7. Bob Dylan, Christmas in the Heart

which is one of the greatest Christmas albums ever made

haha kid A just to piss off the world love it

Yeah true Slint is the worst shit ever uh

Last Splash >>>>> every Pixies album

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:07 PM

otm

Nah.

jezebel list is great except for kid a, bob dylan xmas (agree w/ Οὖτις) and cringe-inducingly obvious challops of putting fuckin' sgt pepper in there like it's still last month and we're still having to read those bs contrarian thinkpieces

A missed opportunity to trash LCD Soundsystem and Fleet Foxes.

I'm surprised to see Slint on there, I didn't think Spiderland was quite popular enough to get the "icky boys like it so it's funny to say it's bad" treatment.

Good lord, this whole ordeal.
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/d4/d4824a1a0f58f3a938bc389fbfb3cc5c084f9a354c1ed8f887f9e3b29d98bcff.jpg

I was surprised no Throwing Muses, neither list and only one mention here. I didn't think they had disappeared from the critical eye so much.

I like how on that Jezebel list they give no explanation for anything, and how they include a link for exactly one album, Orgy Punk Statik Paranoia, as if they assume their readership is familiar with all the other craptacular choices.

jezebel list is corny imo. too many fish-barrel choices & reinforcing conventional wisdom + random critical darlings whoever made it doesnt like personally

it cant help but feel like its still mainly pandering to ppl's generic ideas of 'good' & 'bad' taste esp around notions of class

love that RLJ tweet. The order of the poll is contentious, I mean in no world should Kate Bush be that low

now if jezebel made a list of 150 worst albums by women...

I thought it was convenient that the entire Jezebel list was all on one page rather than divided into 15 annoying parts, but then the page finished loading and there ended up being an ad every 3 entries, amounting to 50 ads you have to scroll through as you read a list of the 150 lowest rated rateyourmusic albums. very 'fuck the system', that