on that song and in parts of "gates of delirium" for sure. 'soon' is ethereal as uh hell and "to be over" is one of their most hymn-y songs, up there with "awaken"
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 12:21 (six years ago) link
I once saw some anonymous band in a park pavilion cover "Supper's Ready" in its entirety. They were kinda loose and basement band-y, but still really amazing that someone would cover that one.
― smug dinner-jazz atrocity (Dan Peterson), Monday, June 19, 2017 9:09 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha that's a pretty big bite
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, June 19, 2017 8:53 PM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Wrong record, but this always makes me smile, talk about a project...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhqWpaW9s4o
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 12:21 (six years ago) link
and "sound chaser" even sounds more competitive (in a friendly way) than angry sometimes, like 'take that, john mclaughlin' and 'we see you coming, orthrelm!'
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― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 12:23 (six years ago) link
'Soon' and 'To Be Over' are totally necessary, no doubt about that. The calm parts make the aggressive parts feel more aggressive.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 12:48 (six years ago) link
agreed w/ all of you, Relayer seemed like the moment Yes were about to blast off the planet
― frogbs, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 13:24 (six years ago) link
I like Going For The One a lot, but just imagine if Relayer had been their last record!
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 14:22 (six years ago) link
the legend of roger dean would be even immenser
not counting GfTO they still had four more or less classics to go though -- drama, 90125, the ladder, and fly from here. and there's even decent stuff on tormato, talk, and union
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:25 (six years ago) link
Drama and 90125 could've easily been not Yes records.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:26 (six years ago) link
same with fly from here. horn is golden, like if the beatles had reunited and eno joined not just produced them
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:28 (six years ago) link
Drama is probably their most underrated record at this stage.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link
Fly From Here is close tho.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 20 July 2017 02:08 (six years ago) link
I want to like Drama, think it sounds really nice but the songs just don't hit me at all
― brimstead, Thursday, 20 July 2017 20:17 (six years ago) link
if you could see all the roads i have traveled towards some unusable last equilibrium . . .
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 20 July 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link
run like an athlete and die like a deadbeaten speed freak
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 20 July 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link
Brimstead- none of the songs? I would remove two of them but otherwise it's really fun.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 20 July 2017 20:48 (six years ago) link
The first track and the last track are the real meat on Drama, but really I love it all.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 20 July 2017 22:07 (six years ago) link
i am a cam er rah
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 20 July 2017 22:09 (six years ago) link
oh this b-side dance remix from Drama is FUCKING SICKKKKK btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxg9j2Zpt4w
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 20 July 2017 22:10 (six years ago) link
\m/
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 21 July 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link
sail the future wars we suffer
do not suffer through the "game of chance" that plays always doors to lock away your dreamsthink it over -- time will heal your fearsthink it over -- balance the thoughts that release within you
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 19 May 2018 12:30 (six years ago) link
The ending to 'To Be Over' ends this album so perfectly - that bit that begins "After all, your soul will still surrender" and into the reprise of the intro. Superb.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 19:26 (five years ago) link
Listening to and enjoying the SW mix of Relayer, I don't miss the battle fx on TGOD at all and I like that the thin and somewhat spiky texture of the original record is absent.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 17 November 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link
It's tempting to think of what they would have done if they'd taken the approach they used on this album further. Or would that have even been possible for them?
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 17 November 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link
yes the wilson remix of relayer makes it listenable for me. I liked the songs but it was terribly produced.
― akm, Saturday, 17 November 2018 18:01 (five years ago) link
XP - To my ear they absolutely did take elements of Relayer onto Going For The One, To Be Over and parts of TGOD have echoes in Awaken and Turn Of The Century with the band moving those big blocked out chord sections around like tectonic plates.
But if you're talking about the fusion-y edge as a consequence of PM's input, I don't buy the notion that it's as big a part of Relayer as is accepted, I don't really hear that much Mahavishnu or whoever beyond the intro to Soundchaser and a lot of the time Moraz's choice of textures and sounds are strikingly similar to Wakeman's.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 17 November 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I was talking more about the more aggressive approach of 'Sound Chaser' and most of 'The Gates of Delirium', rather than the softer side of the LP. Wasn't most of this album written before Patrick Moraz had even joined the band?
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 17 November 2018 19:16 (five years ago) link
i hate the rhino remaster of this album and definitely prefer the earlier cd, though I don't love that mastering either. Will I love the wilson edition?
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 March 2019 15:15 (five years ago) link
Don’t know if you’ll love it but it sounds way better
― akm, Thursday, 21 March 2019 15:42 (five years ago) link
It's less crunchy
― MaresNest, Thursday, 21 March 2019 16:16 (five years ago) link
Bands used to have a much more compressed history. Yes 71' to '74 went through a pretty astounding amount of changes in a really just a four year period. It's a rare band now even in more underground indie circles that would put out that wide an array of records with key lineup changes and stylistic experiment in such a small period of time. And these guys did it while playing a ton of shows in US/Europe. I suppose if that is considered, it's not hard tor see why perhaps a project like Topographic Oceans might go sideways, there just wasn't real time to get such a big project together. And even when that happened they just swapped out one of the main writers and kept on trucking. I think perhaps laying that much music out including a double live studio and live record may have had Relayer get a short listen in all the smoke.
― earlnash, Sunday, June 15, 2014 3:55 PM (four years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This absolutely freaks me out. The Yes Album, Fragile, CTTE, Tales, AND Relayer - over a period of only 3.75 years!!!!!!!!!????????What the fuuuck!? Who ARE these guys? (I cannot even maintain a semblance of sense when even thinking about it)
When I am amidst a heavy work assignment, thinking, "I just gave them a Tableau dashboard 9 months ago!", and get a little too unruly, I put on "Soon", and remind myself that in the same 9-month span in the early '70s, Yes would already have recorded an awesome record with a side-long epic which, a few months after buying it it, will make millions of people tear up when the damn title is referenced!
It's rad to see all of the love for TGOD on here (I love Jon's description of the song on the YesYears doc, "They must have thought I was crazy, banging on the piano, screaming da-DA da-DA..." - it's worth the 20 buck for the VHS version alone)
Also, if loving the "cha-cha-cha...cha-cha..." part of "Sound Chaser" is wrong, I don't wanna be right!
― Prefecture, Friday, 22 March 2019 01:50 (five years ago) link
Holy shit this Wilson mix sounds amazing!!!!
― kurt schwitterz, Friday, 22 March 2019 03:03 (five years ago) link
Yeah the Wilson mix is gorgeous. Gave me newfound respect for Moraz's playing.
― Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 22 March 2019 04:46 (five years ago) link
his mixes def get slagged off by some purists but I quite like them; good alternates for the earlier albums, and IMO definitive for Relayer.
― akm, Friday, 22 March 2019 14:42 (five years ago) link
this kid gets it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbQlgKqkHug&feature=emb_logo
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 00:59 (four years ago) link
Playback error
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 01:19 (four years ago) link
i hope this works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbQlgKqkHug&t=15s
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 01:55 (four years ago) link
fuck. i'll try one more time. it's worth it!
https://youtu.be/PbQlgKqkHug
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 01:57 (four years ago) link
21 minutes of sweet cream, bitch
― doug watson, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 14:09 (four years ago) link
It was a lot of fun watching this kid go on this journey
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link
do sound chaser next!!
― jacquees, full of cobras (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 21:10 (four years ago) link
Yep, shit is srt8 fire
― Maresn3st, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link
that was awesome, very wholesome
― frogbs, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link
Yes are touring this next year, but I can guarantee that it won't be fire. It might be passably ok though.
― akm, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 23:15 (four years ago) link
dunno if I've posted this in this thread before but I'm gonna post again because holy shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqR0AP7A_l4
― frogbs, Friday, 21 February 2020 15:44 (four years ago) link
When the pedal steel hits in To Be Over, I'm flying
― J. Sam, Friday, 28 February 2020 01:55 (four years ago) link
so over xmas staying w/ny sister in hastings we met up for the evening w/her oldest friend, who she was at school with in the mid-70s and stayed close to ever since — she’s one of my oldest friends too, we all arrived london at the same time and looked after one another in those long-ago days. and we talked abt all of that — including memories of the time the three of us and others (probably her older sister, certainly her older brother, who was driving; a couple of others long forgotten) drove from shrewsbury to stafford in june 1977 to see YES at fabled 70s mega-venue the BINGLEY HALL: the GOING FOR THE ONE tour anyway since I am spending the weekend packing up the flat I have lived in for 32 years to leave the quarter I have known for 40, and bcz I was therefore in a melancholy and backward-looking mood, I spent 20 mins hunting out and then jigsawing together, on spotify, the setlist for that show, from the relevant albs — my actual-real first rock SPECTACLE. a thing that amuses is that you can now go onto the internet and discover exactly what some act played, and in what order, 46 years ago… • support act was donovan! (no one cared and the crowd was restive 😔)• set design was by roger dean! (it was meant to be elfin caves but it looked like torn multi-coloured tights 😔)• and I quite enjoyed it — tho as always w/music probably as much for the social element as the sound. I had schoolfriends who LOVED yes but they weren’t with us and I was p unfamiliar with the new material. probably I enjoyed the banter in the car there and back as much as the show tbh. we had a giant shopping bag full of ham and chutney sandwiches! anyway it’s what I’ve been listening to all weekend so here’s a youtube of the actual live material of that tour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9kdRt5bUvA
is this music good or not? i don't know!! patrick moraz possibly wrote more of it than historians allow! routine wakeman deprecation inserted here (he was on-stage in his dumb cape) (everyeone else was in a cape also i think but they looked good not dumb) (here bcz a turrican thread abt a difft alb seems the right place for it)
― mark s, Sunday, 15 January 2023 12:16 (one year ago) link
lol
given a certain poppy zip in parts of GFtO (title track especially) i'm about to attribute as much as possible to Moraz
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 January 2023 12:21 (one year ago) link
i feel like moraz (?) was shunting howe a *long* way out of his too-pretty too-fey comfort zone: i never hate how but he's often p wild on this youtube (and of course on GFtO title track) -- i remember he was jerking the steel pedal around on-stage like crazy haha
(which is maybe why he agitated for moraz to get the boot) (howe also a bit of a dick when it comes to teamplay, if the oral histories are a guide)
― mark s, Sunday, 15 January 2023 12:29 (one year ago) link
there's a reason Relayer sounds like they opened a door to wonderful possibilities and then CERTAIN MEMBERS slammed that door shut toot sweet
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 January 2023 12:32 (one year ago) link