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Tori Amos, no question.

"Boys for Pele" better than "From The Choirgirl Hotel" and "To Venus and Back"? Nope.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

What about Beck? Not sure about the non-major-label albums, but Mellow Gold>Odelay>Mutations>Midnight Vultures>Sea Change is probably > than the new one I don't care enough about to buy.

― Not Thaat Chuck, Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Or is this just a technical issue, e.g., Whitechocolatespaceegg > Whip-Smart?

Oh yeah, also: Whitechocolatespaceegg > Whip-Smart

I retract my enthusiastic endorsement of Douglas' nod to Liz Phair on the basis of fact. In my defense, I can only say that I was beitched by the magnitude of the post-Exile drop-off.

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Ugg, Venus. What a waste of an album. Put the two good songs on a whole other album, leave the rest for dead.

I like Choirgirl OK, but I just don't think it's got the goods to beat, say, "Blood Roses," "Professional Widow" and "Marianne." Although the Choirgirl-era b-sides are my second-favs, so I guess I could give you that.

(xpost)

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

"Boys for Pele" better than "From The Choirgirl Hotel...? Nope.

Dom P OTFM. And I'm sticking to my guns on this one.

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Lenny Kravitz

Counting Crows

― Aaron St. John (StJohn), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Badly Drawn Boy

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

frankie goes to hollywood
a flock of seagulls
abc?
soft cell??

― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

and yeah, i know my pogues opinion is unpopular, but i actually would take *red roses for me* over *run sodomy and the lash,* believe it or not. (what can i say? i'm an anti-nowhere league fan, too.)

― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Totally disagree with Motley Crue.

Well the quality difference between the debut and Shout at the Devil is negligible, but beginning with Theater of Pain the downhill slide began gaining speed.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Dream Syndicate is good.

Also, the last Liz Phair is probably my favorite or it's the one I listen to most frequently anyway.

― dan. (dan.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sorry, you cannot honestly tell me Theater of Pain was better than Dr. Feelgood.

I was going to disclaim that with something, but fuck it, that's a close to an objective statement about music as I'm gonna get.

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Pink Floyd, arguably. (Actually I don't think this but I figure a case could be made).

Nobody would claim "Ummagumma" was better than anything that followed, would they?

Also, I expected to see Oasis here. It is of course way wrong, as their first album is still their worst IMO :-)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

"What about Beck?"

doesn't work. One Foot in the Grave is his best album

― daglo, Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

abc? Nothing is ever likely to be worse than what was their second album.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sorry, you cannot honestly tell me Theater of Pain was better than Dr. Feelgood.

Singles-wise, sure. But I completely blow my argument because "Wild Side" came out between them and is one of the band's finest moments.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Motley Crue's last 2 LPs their two catchiest. So no, not them.

Poison might work, though.

― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

oops, by "last 2" i mean dr. feelgood & girls girls girls. (i've heard they've since made a comeback, but i forget what that entails. or why anybody would care, for that matter.)

― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I was gonna say...

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

2 long shots that might actually work, if you think about it enough:

motorhead
pet shop boys

― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

pet shop boys

Ridiculous. Very is better than everything before or after.

― john'n'chicago, Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

wrong on Pet Shop Boys! and 1916 is a pretty kickass latter-day Motorhead album.

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Pretenders > Pretenders II > Learning to Crawl > Get Close. Further distinctions not cost effective.

― brianiac (briania), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Disagree w dom's eminem sentiment above, i think. Well, particularly if you include "Infinite" among his albums, but even then i like both MMLP and the one after it more than slim shady lp.

This is a good thread. I'm w/ pappawheelie re: run dmc's 4th album, "beats to the rhyme" is probably my favorite rdmc track.

― deej., Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Boston, they just couldn't follow the success of Smells Like Teen Spirit.

― rat, Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Portishead

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

the replacements came dangerously close to fitting this model. and there's probably 1 or 2 days out of any given week when i could convincingly make the argument.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Cover Girls
Expose'
Pajama Party
Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam
Debbie Gibson
Tiffany

not Company B, though - their second album is a true classic!

― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

guns n' roses

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

No way - Spaghetti Incident>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>both Use Yr Illusions

― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

fIREHOSE

― john'n'chicago, Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

(x-post)
(wait, i forgot that gnr pre-appetite thing, which i guess would disqualify them if it counts.)

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

also Appetite for Destuction >>> Live @#$% Like a Suicide, but maybe that doesn't count

― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

(xp obv)

― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Boston, they just couldn't follow the success of Smells Like Teen Spirit.

No wonder. How could they possibly expect to get away with ripping off Nirvana like that?

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:14 (twenty-one years ago)

(x-post)
i'm fascinated that spaghetti incident trumps use yr illusions by about 50 arrows, but appetite trumps @#$% by only three arrows!

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

hey, @#$%^&* had a rose tattoo cover on it, y'know! that's worth 40 arrows alone, don't you think?

― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

this is why i'd never make a good critic. i never remember that kinda stuff!

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Killing Joke?

― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

The Knack

― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

the bangles

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

was (not was)

― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

David Sedaris

― Guayaquil, Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Stone Roses.

― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 19 May 2005 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

ian dury and the blockheads?
nick lowe?
b-52s?
devo?

(or maybe not; freedom of choice > duty now for the future, right?)

― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Wall of Voodoo, maybe. Not sure how many albums they released post-Call of the West, but it should work up to their 3rd LP at least, and the 1st release (EP) was the best. EP>Dark Continent>Call of hte West>Andy PRieboy stuff

― 666, Thursday, 19 May 2005 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

oh and a case could be made for the Velvet Underground, if you are on the John Cale side of things.

and Nico > White Light > s/t > Loaded

I'd probably reverse 2 & 3, though

― 666, Thursday, 19 May 2005 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Suede.

Drowners Ep > Suded > Dog Man Star > Hell

― elwisty (elwisty), Thursday, 19 May 2005 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

j.j. cale?

cyndi lauper?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 19 May 2005 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

the cars?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 19 May 2005 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

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