Shady scams and other silly business ideas to take advantage of earnest new vinyl collectors

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.38 Special is only one hundredth of a percent older?

sarahell, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 20:02 (eight years ago)

ooh good typo joke

mh, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 20:02 (eight years ago)

that is the second reference to .38 special ive seen today. Never heard them.

Odysseus, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 20:44 (eight years ago)

all their songs are actually misremembered hits of other bands -- you know, where someone plays you a handful of songs and you're like "yeah, that one is by the Eagles, this one is by Foreigner, this is Lynyrd Skynyrd" and it turns out you were completely wrong and they're all by this band you've never heard of

mh, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 20:55 (eight years ago)

So... out of business in six months?

Puke and Other Poems (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 29 June 2017 02:25 (eight years ago)

first rule of this record store is you don't talk about the record store

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 29 June 2017 12:41 (eight years ago)

Done!

Puke and Other Poems (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 29 June 2017 18:42 (eight years ago)

God, that Limited to One thing. I checked out the Instagram and it's, like, posting Alkaline Trio 45s and third rate Morrissey albums.

If that shit is "Fight Club, but for records" I hope it's one of those super violent fights where there's not a clear winner because all the participants died in the fight.

Austin, Thursday, 29 June 2017 19:47 (eight years ago)

Just reading that article and looking at the Instagram profile. Yuck.

I need to wash my hands or something. I feel gross now.

Austin, Thursday, 29 June 2017 19:48 (eight years ago)

Good god, I shut down my computer and went to play guitar, but all I could think of was how infuriating that Limited to One bullshit is. Through their various outlets, they're all like, "be punk, be DIY." But then they go on to regurgitate the ethos of the exact opposite of that philosophy.

I mean, jeez. This is like scum of the earth level status as far as I can tell. Fuck these people.

Austin, Thursday, 29 June 2017 21:22 (eight years ago)

it's Flight Club not Fight Club. I was informed its a 'sneakers store'

Odysseus, Thursday, 29 June 2017 22:11 (eight years ago)

another thing that has made my blood boil lately is that the VINYL ME PLEASE editions of some records are becoming more valuable than other pressings. i think the record collecting community should all come together and agree that blacklist any and all of these n00b editions.

just another (diamonddave85), Thursday, 29 June 2017 22:43 (eight years ago)

but.... are they better pressings, or just some dumb "limited" release? genuinely curious, not familiar w/them

sleeve, Thursday, 29 June 2017 22:46 (eight years ago)

If they're pressed on colored/picture disc vinyl, they are inherently inferior. Doesn't matter about the size of the pressing run.

Austin, Thursday, 29 June 2017 23:03 (eight years ago)

war on drugs: https://www.discogs.com/The-War-On-Drugs-Lost-In-The-Dream/release/5990802

panda bear gets a remaster: https://www.discogs.com/Panda-Bear-Person-Pitch/release/9649225

just another (diamonddave85), Thursday, 29 June 2017 23:54 (eight years ago)

generally ltd run colored, but sometimes special like the remaster

just another (diamonddave85), Thursday, 29 June 2017 23:55 (eight years ago)

So it looks like they're using the same matrix #/plates on the War on Drugs... so nice, worn out plates and inferior grade vinyl. Noice!

Puke and Other Poems (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 30 June 2017 00:06 (eight years ago)

haha good catch

sleeve, Friday, 30 June 2017 00:22 (eight years ago)

I'm down with the 45 rpm thing but fuck a colored vinyl

sleeve, Friday, 30 June 2017 00:23 (eight years ago)

see also: 4 different color vinyl options for the Snowy Red/Carol reissue 7"

sleeve, Friday, 30 June 2017 00:24 (eight years ago)

Every time a new release comes out on colored vinyl, I go out of my way to make sure I don't get the colored version. Colored/picture disc vinyl is one of the biggest shams of all time. Anybody who claims to be into vinyl "because it sounds better" and then goes on to seek out these colored and picture disc pressings is so fucking bamboozled. I'd feel bad for them if they didn't create their own quagmire.

Austin, Friday, 30 June 2017 01:07 (eight years ago)

where does it end? how long till vinyl me please offers hot stampers?

just another (diamonddave85), Friday, 30 June 2017 02:03 (eight years ago)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/06/30/vinyl-records-are-so-popular-that-sony-plans-to-make-them-again/

In 1989, Sony Music decided to stop producing the outdated, cumbersome records. Since then, music has enjoyed many formats, including the compact disc, the digital MP3 and, finally, streaming.

Somehow, though, the vinyl record hung on. Now, after a 28-year hiatus, Sony announced it will resume production of the vinyl record.

The details are scant, but the pressing plant will be in a factory southwest of Tokyo, CNN Money reported. It’s unclear what genres of music the company will be producing.

...

Vinyl record sales have been skyrocketing. More than 9.2 million records were sold in 2014, according to Time. In 2015, that number reached nearly 12 million, Hugh McIntyre wrote in Forbes. That year’s sales were the highest since 1988, pulling in $416 million, Fortune reported.

They even gave digital a run for its money. As The Post’s Thomas Heath wrote in December, “In Britain, vinyl sales ($3.02 million) — those petroleum-based discs that you hold gingerly by the edges — eclipsed digital music downloads ($2.6 million) for week 48 of this year.”

“That a format nearly a century old generated 3.6 percent of total global revenues is remarkable,” wrote NPR’s Andrew Flanagan of the vinyl record’s performance in 2016. And “vinyl could account for up to 18% of all physical music revenue this year,” CNN Money said, citing a recent report by consulting firm Deloitte.

i actually had to stop collecting vinyl just as i was getting started because i ended up moving not once, not twice, but about half a dozen times across two different countries, which kind of makes me sad, as ever since i've lived with minimal things because i don't have a stable place and no place feels like home

i n f i n i t y (∞), Friday, 30 June 2017 16:10 (eight years ago)

“That a format nearly a century old generated 3.6 percent of total global revenues is remarkable,” wrote NPR’s Andrew Flanagan of the vinyl record’s performance in 2016. And “vinyl could account for up to 18% of all physical music revenue this year,” CNN Money said, citing a recent report by consulting firm Deloitte.

I like the elision from "3.6% of total global revenues" to "18% of all physical music revenue". Very slick.

This is nicely done, too:

In 2015, that number reached nearly 12 million, Hugh McIntyre wrote in Forbes. That year’s sales were the highest since 1988...

What were the sales totals for LPs in 1988, though? I bet they were significantly more than 12 million.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 30 June 2017 16:52 (eight years ago)

http://static.spin.com/files/140516-vinyl-riaa.jpg

sleeve, Friday, 30 June 2017 16:57 (eight years ago)

that looks like maybe 20 million? hard to tell

sleeve, Friday, 30 June 2017 16:57 (eight years ago)

hey look what else I found

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_revival

sleeve, Friday, 30 June 2017 16:58 (eight years ago)

Looks like about 50 million, compared to 150 million CDs.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 30 June 2017 17:04 (eight years ago)

You GUYS, I just put out some rare Texas Is The Reason vinyls that I picked up on my buying trip to Jakarta last month. Get on over here!

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19510360_10156007504502137_2046837864419874975_n.jpg?oh=150aa9f643c45ce34b7e80af83a4f720&oe=59C49A23

scott seward, Friday, 30 June 2017 17:08 (eight years ago)

In 2015, that number reached nearly 12 million, Hugh McIntyre wrote in Forbes. That year’s sales were the highest since 1988...

What were the sales totals for LPs in 1988, though? I bet they were significantly more than 12 million.

― grawlix (unperson), Friday, June 30, 2017 9:52 AM (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you're getting into more advanced math because you need to account for inflation, which in itself has different theories of ways of doing it

i mean...in 2015, i'm assuming that $416 million number is revenue

in 1988, revenue was $532 million and in 1989, $220 million, which is good enough for me (accounting for inflation, 2015 is up by ~$18 million); deal in cost of production/labour/wholesale and things get more complicated

revenue data: https://www.riaa.com/u-s-sales-database/

and if you want more fun, cpi inflation calculator: https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

i n f i n i t y (∞), Friday, 30 June 2017 17:31 (eight years ago)

why the heck doesn't that chart include cassette tapes?!

mh, Friday, 30 June 2017 18:37 (eight years ago)

the one sleeve linked, I mean

cassettes were ridiculously huge in the US by around 1990, I remember the midwestern shopping mall music stores having entire walls just covered in cassettes. unless there was a promo image, you'd have to get really close just to see what they were

mh, Friday, 30 June 2017 18:39 (eight years ago)

i was talking to someone and she told me a pressing plant is opening in athens (georgia)?

maura, Friday, 30 June 2017 19:34 (eight years ago)

Not just walls, mh.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/99/a4/45/99a4458acd1e9f21d76b1fe6a0c8e6e9.jpg

andrew m., Friday, 30 June 2017 19:34 (eight years ago)

Kindercore Vinyl is the new pressing plant in Athens.

Brad C., Friday, 30 June 2017 19:41 (eight years ago)

i am the vinyl pressing center

mh, Friday, 30 June 2017 20:18 (eight years ago)

baaahahaha

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Friday, 30 June 2017 20:20 (eight years ago)

well i was going to mention while it's worth mentioning that there are ~20 companies manufacturing vinyl records, they sound like they are small operations

sounds like sony wants to do this at a larger scale

i n f i n i t y (∞), Friday, 30 June 2017 20:29 (eight years ago)

eight months pass...

Have you ever wanted to hear an entire book on vinyl?

ummm...no?

https://pitchfork.com/news/vinyl-audiobook-series-launches-with-david-foster-wallace-and-more/

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 12:05 (eight years ago)

aw i was hoping that url meant there was gonna be a vinyl infinite jest in a 900-piece set

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 12:18 (eight years ago)

Heh same. Get an lp every day for three years.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 12:22 (eight years ago)

I've also never understood why anyone in 2018 would want to own stand up comedy on vinyl, but this is even stupider

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 13:41 (eight years ago)

I do love the poetry readings I have on vinyl tbh

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 13:45 (eight years ago)

aw i was hoping that url meant there was gonna be a vinyl infinite jest in a 900-piece set

― NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, February 28, 2018 6:18 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is the future liberals want

mh, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 15:00 (eight years ago)

So many 180g reissues of dollar bin mainstays out there now... not talking about legit awesome Friday Music issues or the like, these ones I see know are just part of the "vinyl is hip/back" thing that is taxing the poor vinyl presses

brimstead, Thursday, 1 March 2018 00:19 (eight years ago)

It really is quite stupid.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Thursday, 1 March 2018 01:43 (eight years ago)

I started giggling when I saw Whipped Cream & Other Delights reissued and for sale at B&N

mh, Thursday, 1 March 2018 02:11 (eight years ago)

Yeah B&N has so much of that junk! And everything is at least $25 and it makes me sad

brimstead, Thursday, 1 March 2018 02:17 (eight years ago)

two weeks pass...

might not be a shady scam, but the amount of crap they package with these records is ridiculous. that guy from Nest Magazine should really have one of these artisan mixtape services. if he is still alive.

https://www.vinylmoon.co/

https://www.vinylmoon.co/thecollection/

scott seward, Sunday, 18 March 2018 19:58 (eight years ago)

i have no idea about the music but this one is kinda far out.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/cratejoy_vendor_images/65e9ffdd7c8749a0bf449ba2cc310fcd.jpeg

http://www.shop.vinylmoon.co/shop/product/1327023046

scott seward, Sunday, 18 March 2018 20:01 (eight years ago)


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