this is the thread for the Allman Brothers Band, because there hasn't been an all-encompassing one yet

RIP. Always liked his voice and Hammond b-3. Whipping post came up on a playlist the other day. Still sounds strong.

Gregg and Cher has to be one of the weirder celeb marriages tho.

They were great.

listening to Eat A Peach right now, RIP

Looks like The Daily Beast has re-upped their republishing of Grover Lewis' notorious Allmans tour report, originally published in Rolling Stone (apparently against the author's wishes) alongside Duane's obituary in '71.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/15/stacks-hitting-the-note-with-the-allman-brothers-band

Best story right here

http://buffalonews.com/2017/06/04/dream-sequence-gregg-allman-cher-lighted-canisius-high/

Awesome

I've got a bit of a commute these days and have had a few drives to the early Allman Brothers records. I had a weird thought thinking that Duane Allman was all of 24 years old when he passed on. It's kind of odd to think those tunes on those two studio albums, At Fillmore East and the left over tracks on Eat a Peach have nearly lived on the radio twice as long as his actual life.

I got thinking about Butch Trucks and Gregg Allman recently passing on and the fact that this group went on in various versions for decades but the music that is known was those slight two studio albums and that live record cut in like Aug. 69 to Oct. 71. It was such a small sliver of time and they were so young when those recordings were made. Time is a funny thing.

Brothers and Sisters was very well received, still sounds fresh; several others were uneven but worth checking out 'til they got rejuvenated by bringing in Warren Haynes and Allen Woody, then with the return of Haynes with the permanent residence of Derek Trucks, plus Oteil Burbridge and Marc Quinones; I know people who went to see them at the Beacon every time, Their label a bunch of hot live sets, incl. from the Duane and Berry era. Also don't miss the Epic/Legacy set from 1970 Atlanta Pop: Berry at his best, for one thing.

from what i've heard of Enlightened Rogues, it's not bad. my recollection of their two 'Evening with the Allman Brothers' CDs was that they were really good.

Pandora just threw the "Whipping Post" at me from this: https://owsleystanleyfoundation.org/product/allman-brothers-band-fillmore-east-february-1970-cd/

Which just came out? Seems it should have been more newsworthy.

Apparently fixing to come out. The CD & Vinyl offer highlights, and a download of all the tapes will also be available.

These Sonic Journals comprise the complete source material for the compilation Allman Brothers Band, Fillmore East February 1970, which included performances from February 11, 13, & 14, 1970. These recordings were not previously released in their entirety because they contain significant flaws, primarily due to reel changes in the middle of songs. It was Bear’s wish that they be released in whole because they are sonically pure and include important, previously unreleased material of the band with Duane in his prime, and so with the blessing of the Allman Brothers Band, they are available here for the first time. On each night, you can find something special and rare — even if only in a fragment or a solo. Highlights include the three earliest known live versions of Elizabeth Reed.

Elizabeth Reed is such a beautiful and clever piece of music

Take it down a notch bro
https://open.spotify.com/track/7DYCoG5ouDFG7lfHbyC4Nw

https://open.spotify.com/track/2PDEmZJfAgBKh293Jo2ASU

Jfk South rulez

Listening to One Way Out: Live at the Beacon. I find it very cute that they have a picture of Katz's Deli on the tray card even though it's in the LES, quite a ways from the Beacon on the UWS. (I wonder if they ate there a lot?)

Christgau isn't wrong, this is a mightily impressive set that performance-wise is arguably better than the legendary Fillmore recordings. It's mainly the same material, but the band is better overall while Haynes and Trucks brings more of a balance too - Duane really towered over the others as a soloist. I didn't have much interest in the band after Brothers & Sisters, but if like me you really loved their first four albums and are still a little curious about what came later, I highly recommend checking this out.

I shouldn't say the "same" material actually - a lot of overlap, but they also do 18 numbers (the original Fillmore double LP and the Fillmore sides on Eat a Peach in total only covered 10) and a few of the Duane-era songs found here aren't on those earlier records too.

Continue to listen through various Allman Brothers archive releases.

Fillmore West 71 is good to excellent sound quality wise. ‘Elizabeth Reed’ on the first night is pretty wicked. Third night is probably the best show.

Fox Box from 2004 was an anniversary run of shows in Atlanta that is all worth hearing. Only ‘Dreams’ being the only tune played each night featuring a different soloist each night, including guest Jack Pearson. One reason to check these gigs out is the Brothers break out some killer covers including ‘I Walk on Guilded Splinters’ and ‘Franklin’s Tower’ with Oteil singing lead.

I need to check out that Fox Box, I've never heard that one.

Speaking of Oteil, I just listened to One Way Out, the last "new" live release they put out from a show in 2003. Heavy on Hittin' the Note material, but I dug it a lot more than I expected - Oteil is prominent in the mix and sounds great.

Dickey Betts has passed

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/dickey-betts-allman-brothers-band-dead-727523/

one of the best to ever do it

Just saw this. Always a bit of an arm's-length interest, but I do love "Jessica," which Betts wrote (also "Little Martha," but that's Duane--I think Betts played on it, though).

mystical, magical, soaring… his playing really took me higher. RIP, will burn one to brothers and sisters tonight #youtubecomments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd66VD1zm9M

elizabeth reed, absolutely one of my favorite songs ever

awww man, RIP Dickey

love me some allman bros guitar tones man.

rip dickey

rip what a fucking legend

He was a handful!

rip dickey

i guess that just leaves jaimoe

In Memory of Dickey Betts

RIP

Rip
Headlining tonight at the great Fillmore gig in the sky with his brothers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8KxCdESrCE

Wow, I didn't know that the notorious Grover Lewis "On The Road With The Allmans" piece in Rolling Stone ran alongside the last part of Fear & Loathing In Las Vegas. '70s Hedonism at its finest.

https://www.duaneallman.info/hittingthenote.htm

great time capsule, thanks for that

Got The Allman Brothers Band and Eat a Peach on CD today, the two of them for $5. Wasn't sure if I had the first or not--I do, on a double-album reissue of their first two LPS. Really like "Dreams"; the rest, not especially.

I've never owned Eat a Peach, though I have a few songs on a Duane Allman compilation. The CD reissue (single CD) is rearranged from the original album: "Mountain Jam" is one song halfway through--like most of it, except for the pointless drum solo (if you're not a drummer, does anyone like any drum solo ever?)--so the CD closes with "Little Martha." Which would be in the running for greatest album-closer ever, if it actually had been. Also love "Blue Sky."

The version of the debut album on the Beginnings compilation you had is a remix of the original. I don't know whether the CD contains that remix or the original mix.
That first album is my favourite Allmans release, it's got just enough "Whipping Post" to keep my attention.

It kinda still is the last tune as ‘Mountain Jam’ on LP was on side 2 and 4, so you could line up the two parts on a record player with an auto play without having to flip the record.

I like the nascent Southern Rock side of them much more than the '60s Blues Band side.

The regular CD of the debut includes the original mix, and IIRC the Beginnings CD retains the remix, which is a little less 'Psychedelic'.

From https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/allman-brothers-band-very-different-mixes-beginnings.359878/

A few examples of differences.
It's Not My Cross To Bear - 1969 mix fades out and then comes back in to hear the closing...1973 remix fades out but no reprise.
Trouble No More - 1969 mix has dry sounding drums in the intro...remix has some reverb on the drums.
Every Hungry Woman- 1969 mix has just the guitar in the first few seconds, remix also has a hi-hat in the intro.
Dreams - 1969 mix, organ is more to the left, remix has the organ more centered and the mix is more 'open'.
Whipping Post -1969 mix, bass is in left channel, also song fades out and you barely hear the end...remix, the bass is more centered and the ending comes to a cold stop.

I like the nascent Southern Rock side of them much more than the '60s Blues Band side.

opposite

i mean the southern rock is fine, but they were doing something special before they were reduced to that

"Reduced"? "Blue Sky" and "Jessica" are beautiful.

they're fine

i'd rather someone was around to drag dickey back to 'in memory of elizabeth reed' tho

It makes no sense to me to say someone's reduced to doing something they're in the process of inventing. Babe Ruth was reduced to hitting home runs.

for a minute there the allmans were making something entirely new out of rock and blues and jazz and country. but 'blue sky' and 'jessica' were not part of that

lol i am trying desperately to make a suitable baseball comp but failing -- i'll get back to you <3

What I was trying to do there was get you to say "Jesus, it's annoying to have someone start nitpicking about the stupidest stuff imaginable." Didn't work.

You're both right!

Duane was clearly and objectively one of rock's great musical innovators. And the ABB, like Butterfield Blues Band circa East West, pointed to new (and sadly unrealized) possibilities for rock that could encompass more than just boring blues jams. Gregg was admittedly no slouch, to say nothing of the rest of the group, who were all, like, E Street Band-level players.

But Dickey, unlike anyone else in the Allman Brothers, wrote legitimately great and timeless songs (see clemenza's examples above), and I do wonder if this band would even be remembered much today if not for the "hits."

Of course, they'd probably still be remembered by me, because they were my dad's favorite band!

I like the nascent Southern Rock side of them much more than the '60s Blues Band side.

They had a nice "growth curve" from 1969 to 1973, despite their well-known problems. There are certainly several songs on the subsequent records that are better than most of the debut, but I like that first record for its power and brevity (the whole thing is shorter than the entirety of "Mountain Jam"). In fact, I'd probably call it the best blues-rock record of 1969 - less gimmicky than Zeppelin, and blowing stuff like Ten Years After and Canned Heat out of the water both in terms of songs and playing.

TIL that Steve Alaimo has a writing credit on and apparently owned the publishing for ages, apparently because Gregg was short of money and Steve paid him $250 for it. Crazy.

on "Melissa" I meant to see

“I’m no angle?”

Last studio album, that is: Southern Blood. Came out in 2017, and wasn't quite finished when he died, but any tweaks are discreet. He sounds a lot better on there than 'midst all the moanin' and groanin' of Hittin' The Note.

“Come on let me show you my hypotenuse” etc