Soundgarden

cornell had three kids :(

xpost yes—"band on the neck" does not nec. mean suicide. Sources on this?

xps I've seen it in a few sources - The Mirror, in the UK - but nowhere, I guess, 'official'

The reports I've seen - incl NYT and Independent - say that it is being investigated as an apparent suicide but not more than that.

I'm sorry i jumped to a conclusion.

Yeah, I think that's the reason for the odd language of the police report -- it's very likely to have been a suicide, but band and family didn't see it coming, so there will be careful investigation.

Cornell i think caught a bit more flak than deserved sometimes bc of his vocal style, especially in recent years. i mean i wasn't familiar enough w/his work post-soundgarden to say anything about it, but Badmotorfinger/Superunknown are all-time classics. and Temple of the Dog was probably the album that hit home the hardest for me. And it does now with this news. like i said upthread i mean it's just ridiculous that this whole slew of charismatic frontmen are gone for reasons that are all too common.

just heard your spot on 5live stevie.

v. nice sir.

Say Hello 2 Heaven is a wonderful song, and the alt versions on the TOTD reissue from last year are really fantastic.

xp haha did i say "fuck"? i was trying so hard not to say "fuck"

didn't hear it all, had to leave the kitchen.
no swearing during the part i heard.

totally stunned and bereft right now

been texting with mr veg & another friend, we're all just like wtf

cried all the way to work :(

fucking weird as shit, i had a dream about Soundgarden two nights ago.

I was playing basmotorfinger really. fucking. loud. on the commute to work this morning. Mind Riot slayed me.

Yeah, as mentioned, that song's always been my favorite and learning whatever we're learning about this, those lyrics start taking on even sharper edges. It's less about any sort of 'prediction,' more a real capturing of a mindset.

listening to down on the upside, which i think i secretly like better than superunknown

he was def the last rock god, now so many bands try so hard to be that but he just was that

It's less about any sort of 'prediction,' more a real capturing of a mindset.

I think it's also pretty explicitly about Andy Wood, too.

Weirdly, their cover of Spinal Tap's "Big Bottom" was the first time I'd heard of Tap, so I'm grateful to them for that introduction. Did they ever return to doing silly stuff like that? I get the impression it all got a lot more serious from Badmotorfinger on, but I was off the bus by then.

chris cornell was a rock god bc he had that voice and just easily slipped into the role. definitely the best rock star to come out of the Seattle scene imo. the other guy who comes to mind when I think of him unfortunately is Michael Hutchence, just a similarly huge figure who owned his role but apparently had something building inside him for so long.

i didn't really know a lot about black sabbath (solo ozzy was sort of hogging the spotlight then) and their cover of 'into the void (sealth),' fnm's 'war pigs' and (sorry) ugly kid joe's 'sweet leaf' were my primer

still prefer soundgarden's Into The Void and Faith No More's War Pigs over the originals. Using Chief Sealth's speech on INto The Void was an inspired move.

"Only the lyrics of 'New Damage', which are about how the American people have become unbelievably complacent about the way that the US government is eroding more and more basic human rights, could be described as particularly direct." - Cornell quoted in Melody Maker, 1991

maura otm - soundgarden was my gateway into Sabbath in high school

i love that Into The Void cover

The wreck is coming down / Get out, before you drown.

my first exposure to him was the first Audioslave record, loved it, never got into Soundgarden but i'll echo what many have said here that he always seemed like the most grounded and kind-hearted of the Gen X frontmen. So brutal knowing he had three teenage kids. RIP

That first Audioslave record is really good. The ones after that were...not.

too old to have been ripe for becoming a fan, what little i know of them was from that Hype! documentary.

actually, i don't mind the audioslave albums.
they're nothing special,
but they are mighty good rock albums, helped out by the vocals of course,
and sometimes that's all you need.

pretty bummed about this! when i was 12 my buddy made me a mixtape with a few soundgarden songs on it, and i played the hell out of it while playing resident evil. i also had the guitar tablature book for superunkown around the same time. i sang "hunger strike" to (more at) my wife the night we met because she told me she lived in the pacific northwest. bummed i didn't go down to seattle to see the temple of the dog tour or soundgarden in recent years, as i considered it pretty strongly but logistically it wasn't going to work out for me.

I guess it's looking more on the level now

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2017/05/18/chris-cornell-death-detroit/

The detail that will haunt me is that his wife called one of the bandmembers -- doesn't say which one -- asking him to check on Cornell, and that he and hotel security had to break into the room.

heart-wrenching

Fuck that is so horrible.

i can almost guarantee that the three albums i listened to more than any others from 1994 were In Utero, Dirt, and Superunknown. it is ridiculous that all of those singers are dead now, wrong and ridiculous.

yeah.
totally.
that's a phone call you never want to have to make.

xpost.

So apparently during a lengthy version of "Slaves & Bulldozers" to close their show he sang the refrain from Zep's "In My Time of Dying?" Jesus.

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i'm reminded of a couple shitty reviews for Audioslave's first, very very good album:

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/356-audioslave/

https://web.archive.org/web/20100201130917/http://stylusmagazine.com/reviews/audioslave/audioslave.htm

i don't think Audioslave was nearly the band Soundgarden was, but after awhile of being a bit agnostic i really appreciated their virtuosity even at their weakest.

i can almost guarantee that the three albums i listened to more than any others from 1994 were In Utero, Dirt, and Superunknown. it is ridiculous that all of those singers are dead now, wrong and ridiculous.

― nomar, Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:23 AM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

just remembered, at the time of the release of his first solo album, my promo groove was on the way out,
so happened to be well chuffed/baffled, when i got this promo only career overview release :

https://www.discogs.com/Chris-Cornell-The-Roads-We-Choose-A-Retrospective/release/5680836

I was never keen on Audioslave but this track is mighty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDMvN45sjo4

i really really love this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC5FdFlUcl0

yeah "cochise" is like a bomb going off. regardless audioslave always seemed to me like cornell being let down by the limitations of the players/arrangements surrounding him (i'm not extending this theory to the solo albums i haven't heard)

there's a great moment in the spin superunknown oral history where cornell describes how he felt when ben shepherd brought "head down" to the band, he's like, "this must be what being in the beatles was like." i love that. soundgarden were unparalleled

i never really had a thing for Soundgarden but I moved from the twin cities to Seattle in spring 1990 after the way had been blazed for me by my best friend at the time; after i got there I remember meeting Ben Shepherd at this insane dilapidated shared house on bainbridge island where my friend and his gf were living with a bunch of other freaks. Shepherd was just then joining SG iirc?-- And my friend introduced me to him and I laughed out loud because my friend and shepherd were dead ringers for each other. My friend and I weren't 21 yet and I guess he had borrowed shepherd's driver's license a few times without a hitch because they resembled each other so strongly. My friend and his gf had already both become junkies since moving to seattle but i didn't realize that for a few more weeks. at least half the people living in that bainbridge island house became junkies. one of them died a year or so later, another become a piece of shit scumbag, etc. seattle and heroin is such a cliche but it's hard to overstate how saturated in junk seattle was, you could just feel something wrong in the very air. At least anywhere even the slightest bit connected to music -- thank god i made friends in the comic book scene soon enough. anyway, flash forward to about 2010 and my friend who had seemingly made it out of the vortex and was back in the midwest with a wife and baby son and career helping kids suddenly hung himself with a belt behind a locked door. I have this feeling like the darkness was already there (BOB?) and the region was like this perfect cup for the junk to be poured into but idk. Anyway so much of that music is death music to me, it really was coming from a wellspring of horror in a lot of cases. Sorry for this prose poem but reading about how cornell was found and how unexpected it was really made me think of my friend who did that to himself and that seattle feeling.

Damn. Sorry about your friend, first of all. But that's a very vivid portrait of something on so many levels.

yeah, death music is a good way to put it. often feels like there's no way out when listening to Cobain, Weiland, Staley, et al.

sidebar: the Spin superunknown oral history brad referenced is a great read if anyone is interested

http://www.spin.com/2014/06/oral-history-soundgarden-superunknown-anniversary-reissue/

yeah jon otm, sad as it is to admit

not sure if this has been posted yet, but man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuUDRU9-HRk&feature=share

https://youtu.be/IuUDRU9-HRk