pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

they're the only two tbh

p4k gonna have to rewrite that pwr bttm review

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-05-03/pitchfork-grows-up

Can anyone explain PWR BTTM to me, are they supposed to be really great? I feel like Pitchfork is the only place I'd read about them.

the first album had some riffs but ehh

they were very popular with a certain crowd and it's an absolutely insane story, i've never seen or read about a band that went from the verge of success to being dropped and erased by everyone. the swift elimination came about because the allegations against one of the members was completely antithetical to the message and conceit of their band.

this is basically it. it's really dark:

http://jezebel.com/member-of-queer-punk-band-pwr-bttm-accused-of-sexual-as-1795132781

xp

Pitchfork is probably just relieved that this news broke out before they had a chance to publish a review of the album.

jfc pitchfork enough with the Master of None bullshit

otm i fucking hate that show

ugh that looks like one of those Slate branded content things about "How TV show X creates a soundtrack for NOW"

the swift elimination came about because the allegations against one of the members was completely antithetical to the message and conceit of their band.

it didn't help that their initial response was a straight up lie, that this was the first time they heard of the rape allegations, when in reality various band members and colleagues knew of it for months and had been keeping quiet for the good of their careers.

fuck all these enabling assholes i hope they choke on their glitter

yeah that was insane, how do you not just jump off a bridge if this happens to you

http://pitchfork.com/news/70878-arrested-development-season-5-on-netflix-announced/

this was posted 7 hours ago and no one has complained about it not being music-related on this thread yet, are you guys ok

i like this piece http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/1517-queer-kids-deserve-better-than-pwr-bttm

Didn't they know about the allegations against Hopkins for like three months? Sat on the story hoping it would go away. Read that somewhere, no idea if it's true. if it is though...

great input, thanks

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is this Singles sdtk review a fucking joke

lol they should've gotten Cameron Crowe to write it

just bizarre to position it as a pivotal moment/artifact of grunge culture when it was a late-arriving cash-in w shitty songs and is also an actively terrible movie

I remember being absolutely crushed/crestfallen by how bad those Westerberg songs were

Drown was and still is v good fuiud imho

truly a pivotal song from the Seattle grunge scene

lmao also true

lol yeah Drown is the obvious standout on the soundtrack but the movie always struck me as extremely corny and not representative of grunge or Seattle at all. it came out a full year after Nevermind, too - not surprised it was seen as a cash-in / opportunistic. I wonder when he started writing/shooting it though - had to have been before the grunge phenomenon really took off.

well of course, movies take years to make. but that doesn't change the overall cultural context or its reception. nobody took this movie seriously, it was garbage.

"In a particularly great anecdote from Our Town, Truly guitarist Robert Roth recalls watching Nirvana debut 'Teen Spirit' live at Seattle’s OK Hotel while 'across the street, there was a private thing where they were filming Alice in Chains for Singles.'"

the singles soundtrack has at least three classic tracks (im not counting "chloe dancer/crown of thorns" bc it debuted elsewhere)

As reporting and criticism, the Singles piece is superb – and I don't care much for that album or that cultural moment.

probably more like six tbh

xxxxp I realize that, I was just speculating about Crowe's intention in making it.

'singles' got some decent reviews, i don't remember it being regarded as a cash-in or exploitative at the time of its release. maybe in seattle, idk. i guess when i think opportunistic cash-ins from the '90s i think 'reality bites', which was much worse as a film and as a soundtrack. nothing in 'singles' is as hilarious as Ethan Hawke screaming a PG-13 version of "Add It Up" at Winona Ryder.

like it wasn't Jon Bon Jovi going into his manager's office in 1993 and demanding "Make me look like Nirvana."

i have watched both in the last year and SINGLES holds up much better

Singles at least feels written and played naturally where Reality Bites is the Trump ethos on celluloid.

Funny, I watched "Reality Bites" on election day last year...

oh so it's you I blame

the studio sat on singles for two years, right?

therefore imo it's not a cash-in

reality bites is pure insane nonsense

oh so it's you I blame

I didn't know what I was doing, I swear!

anyway eric's writeup of the singles soundtrack is great imo, more of a grunge exegesis than a review

"state of love and trust" is also the best pearl jam song

I was nodding happily along with the Singles trashing until I realized I was confusing it with Reality Bites. I don't think I've ever actually seen Singles.

I hope we can all agree that "Dyslexic Heart" is a bad song, though

both Westerberg songs suck

i like both westerberg songs

I was nodding happily along with the Singles trashing until I realized I was confusing it with Reality Bites. I don't think I've ever actually seen Singles.

― PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 20:37 (thirty-nine minutes ago) Permalink

I confuse those two movies, both of which I've seen, CONSTANTLY in my mind.

What were those damn Westerberg songs doing there anyway?

Singles has nothing so offensive as the Steve Zahn character in Reality Bites sitting around being gay and ill-used until I remembered the garage door opener gag