What?
― Shpilkes for a Knave (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2017 11:50 (seven years ago) link
Wake up
The dream is over
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 30 April 2017 13:58 (seven years ago) link
I know three babies with the name Lulu right now. The Lulu Generation.
― tylerw, Sunday, 30 April 2017 14:34 (seven years ago) link
Post from last night inspired by watching a 2013 Lou show in Prague where they do some Lulu stuff and a really great set of favs and obscurities. On Amazon Prime, really awesome
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 30 April 2017 15:09 (seven years ago) link
Oh nice! Yeah he was pulling out some random old tunes towards the end...
― tylerw, Sunday, 30 April 2017 16:03 (seven years ago) link
Wow man, thanks! That concert on Amazon was really,really good. In fact, I'd go out on a limb and say, that besides the VU, that was the finest backup band I've seen/heard with our Lou. In some ways it was reminiscent of Brian Wilson's Pet Sounds/Smile tours. There must be a sort of mutual appreciation society thingy that goes on. The younger musicians look up to the auteur and want his praise. While the auteur gets a group who are willing to execute his every whim, and give his music a nice shot in the arm, energy wise etc.
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Monday, 1 May 2017 04:15 (seven years ago) link
And next i want to give Lulu another try. Those songs were among the best stuff, in that film. Also, i don't believe I've ever seen/heard Lou so relaxed. He always used to (seemingly nervously adlibbing all sorts of "ooo-ooo, hey-heys, and nah-nahs, between and sometimes in lieu of actual lyrics, which I hated. There was very little of that here. There was a ton of it in that VU reunion CD/video, if u need an example. Not a Mettalica fan at all, but I will give it a try.
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Monday, 1 May 2017 04:32 (seven years ago) link
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, April 30, 2017 10:09 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Haha the best part of this is the deep cuts are like...deep cut doesn't even really do it justice...squeezed in between "Waiting For the Man" and a Lulu song is..."Senselessly Cruel" from "Rock N'Roll Heart"!
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 1 May 2017 20:17 (seven years ago) link
this must be from when the guy from barenaked ladies was in lou's band.
― tylerw, Monday, 1 May 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link
Hmm maybe i will watch this
― Οὖτις, Monday, 1 May 2017 22:16 (seven years ago) link
is there an audio boot somewhere? (or a recommended recording from a similar show?)
― niels, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 08:03 (seven years ago) link
Oh, wouldn’t it be lovely?
― the ghost of markers, Sunday, 7 May 2017 20:07 (seven years ago) link
Sorry Niels, don't have a lead on a boot at the moment. I would b interested in one as well. I still can't believe how good that was/is. I will certainly let ILM know, if I find any in the future. I can easily imagine Tylerw posting one on his wonderfully hip (in the original non pejorative sense) boot mp3 blog.
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Monday, 8 May 2017 03:01 (seven years ago) link
"Hip" in the sense that, the musical taste as displayed there is exquisite. And the writing style in the posts is friendly, informative, and intersting. P.s. I've been a lurker here for years and am very happy to have finally joined a couple weeks ago.
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Monday, 8 May 2017 03:10 (seven years ago) link
Welcome! And you’re posting in this thread, so you’re already doing something right.
― the ghost of markers, Monday, 8 May 2017 04:00 (seven years ago) link
thanks for the kind words -- i don't think i have any 2011 Lou bootlegs, actually. I do have somewhere a tape of Lou and Laurie Anderson playing a duo show with a handful of (radically different) Lulu tunes included.
I watched that concert doc on Amazon prime last week -- pretty good! Kind of an interesting vulnerability onstage for Lou, and yeah lots of weird song choices.
― tylerw, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:18 (seven years ago) link
welcome vryna!
#teamlulu always needs more members
― I got da Midas touch as you fucking were LG x (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 May 2017 15:21 (seven years ago) link
strange to see rob wasserman jamming on things like "mistress dread" but i guess that guy was up for pretty much anything
― tylerw, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:23 (seven years ago) link
In a way the VU to Lulu tour (best name ever) seems almost like a bit of the throwback to 70s Lou, with a big band, horns, backing vocals, long extended jams on just about every song. Lou esp is killing in on the Lulu tunes.
The band is so weird, dudes from Ratdog, Zorn, Barenaked Ladies...
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:29 (seven years ago) link
totally. i actually think a great book would be like a big oral history interviewing Lou sidemen/women from over the decades.
― tylerw, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:31 (seven years ago) link
i'm sure fernando saunders has good stories. and michael fonfara ... i just looked him up and saw he's canadian too -- Lou had a thing for keyboard players from up there i guess. that canuck soul, right?
― tylerw, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:32 (seven years ago) link
where was primary female backing vocalist? (she kinda looked like she should be fronting a late 90s band that liked Get Up Kids a lot), she was great
― I got da Midas touch as you fucking were LG x (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 May 2017 17:11 (seven years ago) link
Havent checked the Prague recording but I attended the Amsterdam gig of the VU to Lulu tour. Joan as Policewoman was the support act and did (some) vocals during Lou's gig.
― willem, Monday, 8 May 2017 17:44 (seven years ago) link
I'm sure Mike Rathke has seen some shit in his time
― Master of Treacle, Monday, 8 May 2017 17:48 (seven years ago) link
I bet a signed album of this (if there are any) will go for a zillion dollars.
Checked eBay to see if any are out there, but all I found was
http://vinylsamongotherthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/LuluFront.jpg
― to pimp a barfly (Eazy), Monday, 8 May 2017 17:50 (seven years ago) link
Jesus, are we going to have an upswing of ironic praise of this turd now?
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 8 May 2017 18:12 (seven years ago) link
we always liked it
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 8 May 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link
amen
― niels, Monday, 8 May 2017 18:23 (seven years ago) link
'You never had aLittle Dog !'
― Mark G, Monday, 8 May 2017 18:50 (seven years ago) link
I've been aggressively consistent in my praise of this record, which I tipsily referred to as "my Sticky Fingers" on Saturday night
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 8 May 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link
there were a few that could see Lulu for what it was....us...David Bowie, few others
― I got da Midas touch as you fucking were LG x (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 May 2017 19:26 (seven years ago) link
i still want to write a book about it, even after having my proposal rejected by 33 1/3
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 8 May 2017 19:28 (seven years ago) link
what's that crowdfunding platform I keep hearing about
― niels, Monday, 8 May 2017 20:01 (seven years ago) link
Feel like if we polled this again, “Junior Dad” would win again.
― the ghost of markers, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 03:03 (seven years ago) link
i mean, rightly, it's a tremendous piece of work
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 04:00 (seven years ago) link
probably my favorite piece of music released this decade so far
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 04:01 (seven years ago) link
A more interesting poll for this record might be second favorite track, not first.
― the ghost of markers, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 04:20 (seven years ago) link
Jessica Troy's viola is as primary a part of "Junior Dad" as anything else.
― to pimp a barfly (Eazy), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 17:38 (seven years ago) link
Released on 11/1 missed the anniversary :(
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, May 8, 2017 2:28 PM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
would love to read this
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 November 2018 14:06 (five years ago) link
The DeCurtis Lou bio gives a decent amount of coverage to Lulu, Lou was pretty hurt by the response, though maybe the (non) response to "Ecstasy" bothered him more.
Both are great records!
Amazing that in the day and age of everyone overthinking and market testing and "curating" everything a record has perverse and off-putting as Lulu was allowed to happen
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 2 November 2018 14:21 (five years ago) link
I still like this album a lot
― silverfish, Friday, 2 November 2018 14:45 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1VyWW5hnXY
― tylerw, Friday, 2 November 2018 15:28 (five years ago) link
holy shit
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 2 November 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
it's uhhh pretty amazing (especially the last minute or so)
― tylerw, Friday, 2 November 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link
i love and miss lou reed
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 2 November 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link
It seems like a few of these songs, "Junior Dad" in particular, were kicking around for a long time before Lulu, I wonder if there are any demo recordings that might see the light of day eventually.
There are couple of times when very Lulu-esque noises/almost riffs churn up on the live performance of Creation of The Universe MM3 live record. I think this was obv something Lou spent a long time thinking about.
Looping back to my earlier comment, per the DeCurtis bio Lou was basically in "fuck it" mode after Ecstasy, a record he kind of slaved over & poured himself into and was met with "yeah another new Lou record, big whoop" & he retired essentially from making straight up Lou Reed records, which is why he did the Raven & then the Berlin tour, but it seems like he still wrote songs, etc.
Anyway I am very curious to hear early vers of these tunes
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 2 November 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link
that laurie version is really great
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 November 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link
It seems like a few of these songs, "Junior Dad" in particular, were kicking around for a long time before Lulu
yes, they were all (?) originally written for robert wilson's production of the frank wedekind plays, but my impression is that the initial material was much more droney and abstract. iirc metallica came in later bc they had the enormous sound lou wanted for the words
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 2 November 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link
yeah, there are early junior dads stretching back to 2008 or thereabouts ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhaUDl4jbS0
there's probably enough stuff for LULU: RELULUED ... 10th anniversary release?
― tylerw, Friday, 2 November 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link
thank you thread revive for inspiring me to rewrite my book proposal
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 2 November 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link