Classic or Dud - "Everlong" by the Foo Fighters

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Oh please, if you're going to jab at Courtney Love, at least you should be half as good a lyricist as she is.

edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't heard "Monkeywrench" in ages but I liked it when it came out (sounds corny when I think of it my head, way cornier than "Everlong" - which, aside from chops, evidently - is a totally Jimmy Eat World template). First time I heard the word "shit" being played on the radio frequently. I dunno if it was because they didn't have a radio edit or cuz it wasn't being used in a scatalogical sense.

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh please, if you're going to jab at Courtney Love, at least you should be half as good a lyricist as she is.

i'd argue he has shown he is on occasion, but probably not enough

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm biased, though, I like my rock melodic, and Grohl can do it, but seemingly chooses NOT to do it in favour of these ugly, thudding over-testosteroned monstrosities like "Stacked Actors" and "Low".

edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Courtney's a good lyricist. Excuse me for a second while I point and laugh in your face.

BAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

KRAKOW! KRAKOW!

Two direct hits! (the first thing I thought of, too)

I think "Big Me" is regrettably overlooked in discussions like this. What a glorious, sugary sweet pop tune. Classic video as well.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Courtney is a great lyricist. Your laughter means nothing, though the force is admirable.

x-post- yes "Big Me" is fantastic, the Mentos send-up. The question is, was their Mentos send-up before Blink 182's Mentos joke in one of their videos?

edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Courtney's a better plagiarist

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I'm not sure what B182 vid you're referring to, but unless it was pre-"Dammit" the answer is yes.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't really like the Foos, but Everlong is superb.

Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

The B182 video I'm referring to is "M&Ms".

edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i had totally forgotten how great "my hero" is. what a wonderful video, too! the stepladder progression in the chorus with the snare stutters is so lethargic it's great.

anyhow, as for "everlong," yes, it's the greatest mod-rock single ever. i remember the first time i ever heard it, stoned and driving around rural va with some buddies. we had just finished listening to appetite... what makes it, in order:

1) the snare skims
2) that, if heard from the distance, the verses totally sound like they are just one chord; the tonal shifts are so subtle as to almost be imperceivable
3) just subtlety from top to bottom, actually
4) it sounds like it was recorded underwater
5) grohl's voice actually sounds good! the whole numb/not trying motif works well with his voice, which is equally nonplussed
6) this is a great song to fuck to

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

there needs to be a "top ten songs the poster would like you to know they enjoy fucking to" thread.

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

one final point: i've always closely associated fugazi's end hits (their best record, hands down) with colour and the shape; certainly the fact that they came out within a year of each other is part of it, but structurally i think they're kind similar (track sequencing in particular) and i also think that they have similar goals -- basically to make the bugger-off rock opera without seeming like they're trying to -- only the foos are a bit more gauche about it. this is prolly horseshit, but there ya go.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, miccio. i haven't fucked to music in 4evah. that was a college thing, and only so the girl's sweetmates wouldn't know how she liked it (to big black, actually!).

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Do I need to guess which album?

1. "Stairway To Heaven" Led Zeppelin
2. "Short Dick Man" 20 Fingers Feat. Gilette
3. "November Rain" Guns'n'Roses
4. "Can I Touch You...There?" Michael Bolton
5. "Damn! I Feel Like A Woman" Shania Twain
6. "Everlong" Foo Fighters
7. "Rush Rush" Paula Abdul
8. "Sadeness Pt. 1" Enigma
9. "Mother Mother" Tracy Bonham
10. "Hypnotize" Ja Rule feat. Ashanti

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

anthony you seem more like a double nickels on the dime dude to me...

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

43 positions in a one night stand

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

People! Take 4 and 10 off Anthony's CD there and I am yours for the night... rrrr.

edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

sweetmates

Unintentional hilarity.

And please, Anthony, it's "Mesmerize," not "Hypnotize".

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd apologize for getting the name of a Ja Rule song wrong, but I'm kinda proud that I did.

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

haha this - only so the girl's sweetmates wouldn't know how she liked it (to big black, actually!) - can totally be read a different way

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I want Busted to cover Everlong.

I agree with Blount - Everlong is, along with a fair wedge of The Colour And The Shape, among the small amount of 90s alt-rock stuff I still *love*. It narrowly beats Up In Arms as my favourite, I think.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

it's meant both ways, james

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

that's what she said wakka wakka

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd apologize for getting the name of a Ja Rule song wrong, but I'm kinda proud that I did.

I have a sort of soft spot for that song. I just really like Ashanti.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I want Busted to cover Everlong.

you want a slap

mind you i drifted off to sleep last night wanting a dronerock version of Madonna's 'Cherish' so i can't talk

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

"Everlong" is an awesome song and also HI GUYS I HAVE TEH SEX NOW!

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

HI GUYS I HAVE TEH SEX NOW!

you should post that on the old 'describe a band's entire career in one sentence' thread

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Two things I like about "Mesmerize."

1) "Thug" as a verb (I like to assume its synonymous with "rape").

2) There's a scene in Friday The 13th III where a jheri-curled r&b singer runs out of a van and into a shack, muttering about those "damn enchiladas." While returning the beans from whence they came, the guy sings "oooh baby oooh baby" in harmony with his girlfriend, who is patiently waiting outside the shack. Eventually Jason kills them both. This song reminds me of that scene. Ashanti, I think I'm gonna need MAGAZIIIIIIINE

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

o man last week i'm flipping thru channels and i stop at mtv hits (cuz i was hoping to see "mosh" on something bigger than a quicktime window), and this really really lite pop-punk song comes on (it's odd how each successive wave of pop-punk is even liter than the last, "1985" makes "jesse's girl" sound like "nonalignment pact")(to be fair "jesse's girl" kinda sounds like "nonalignment pact" already), and i'm watching it and thinking 'man i LIKE pop-punk but this is really really ass' and thinking 'alex in nyc is really gonna HATE this'. anyhow it turns out it was busted.

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

M2 is doing a strange push for Busted--apparently there's going to be a show about them trying to make it in the states, tying it into a whole thing about bands that were huge in the UK but didn't make a dent over here. It'll be interesting to see how it turns out.

"1985" is atrocious. Gives nostalgia a bad name.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think MTV2 in the UK would touch Busted (prove me wrong if you can viewers)

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Everschlong

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

haha - i'm totally picturing a busted tour with the libertines opening.

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

"1985" is Bowling for Soup, not Busted

Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

we know

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

was it the 'monkeywrench' video that had the muzak version of 'big me' playing in the elevator at the beginning? genius!

they need to make cloning legal so grohl can play drums at their shows, though. when i saw the foo fighters on their first tour, grohl came out and did some jamming on a couple drums w/ spearhead during spearhead's set...it was a pretty cool moment even though i thought that spearhead sucked for most of their set.

6335, Thursday, 11 November 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, and everlong = classic. + it has an awesome video

6335, Thursday, 11 November 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

The video is the one thing about "Everlong" I can never forgive.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 11 November 2004 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

But Michel Gondry, man!

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

b-but they grow BIG HANDS!!!

6335, Friday, 12 November 2004 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
I actually have come to really like The Colour and the Shape!

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:35 (twenty years ago)

The song is classic and the video (which i just saw for the first time) is classic, but they don't match well at all.

sleep (sleep), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:10 (twenty years ago)

Man, I remember when this song first came out, I couldn't find a single person in my school who was into the Foo Fighters. Actually, the song that got me into the Foo Fighters back then was "Monkey Wrench", it would be even harder to find someone who liked that song. It seemed to me that "Everlong" was the song that brought the Foo Fighters to most people's anttention. I don't know about their first album being incredibly hyped.....and my testament to that is that I had no clue that Dave Grohl was the drummer for Nirvana!!! I remember switching on Mtv one day and they were showing Nirvana Unplugged, and I was all like, "why is Dave Grohl drumming with Nirvana???" Yeah, I know. I was just a kid discovering all this stuff on my own without an older influence.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Friday, 31 March 2006 23:29 (twenty years ago)

Classic. Girls love this song

pinder (pinder), Friday, 31 March 2006 23:55 (twenty years ago)

I really love everlong, and I really love the everlong video, but I really don't think they fit together very well.

That recent FF song was pretty good too, that shouty best the best the best the best the best thing, whatever it was.

JimD (JimD), Friday, 31 March 2006 23:59 (twenty years ago)

i only like their first album. it sounds so different (and less polished, which is probably why i like it more) from anything else they ever did.

latebloomer: a power and finesse vocalist (latebloomer), Saturday, 1 April 2006 00:07 (twenty years ago)

i'll admit though, "everlong" is a good song. "my poor brain" from colour and the shape is pretty good, too.

latebloomer: a power and finesse vocalist (latebloomer), Saturday, 1 April 2006 00:08 (twenty years ago)

I think that I'd agree that the first s/t album is my favorite one too. I remember after the Colour and the Shape came out I was waiting so long for them to release another album, and by the time they did, I had already moved on to other music, plus I remember when Pat Smear left the band I knew that I wouldn't be as into them as I once was.
The first thing of the Foo Fighters that I ever bought was the "This is a Call" single. I thought the song was pretty good, but it came with two awesome tracks that are not on the self titled album, "Podunk" and "Winnebago",the single was worth it just for those two tracks.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Saturday, 1 April 2006 01:57 (twenty years ago)


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