let us now talk about psychedelia

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UK: The Move
US: Nazz

Chris Clark (Chris Clark), Thursday, 12 June 2003 19:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Pearls Before Swine, "Balaklava" (this has become my stock reply for all threads psych.)

Ian Johnson, Thursday, 12 June 2003 23:44 (twenty-three years ago)

eleven months pass...
I agree with you, Ian. PBS were mindbogglingly great..

Broheems (diamond), Sunday, 16 May 2004 10:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Pearls Before Swine's One Nation Underground is even better. Utterly classic, with Tom Rapp's lisp and all.

Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Sunday, 16 May 2004 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll second that I like the first album better as well.

Tim Ellison, Sunday, 16 May 2004 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

wow, I know its two years old and all, but this thread is dissapointing. Scott Seward to thread! Looks like most of you giving poor Jim advice are a little 'green' about psych yourselves, no offense.

Who or what is "Graham" Parsons? Did someone actually recommed The Hollies? "'Destroy' the Love, Peace and Poetry comps?"

yall must be oucho friggin' minds.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 16 May 2004 15:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah. I have three of the Love, Peace, and Poetry volumes and they're all great. I really like the U.S. volume, actually. Some people say that U.S. psych comps have been done to death, but that one focuses on album tracks rather than 45s. It's great. The British and Asian volumes that I have are also excellent.

My favorite psych comps are the U.S. Love, Peace, and Poetry volume, Pebbles Volume 3, Erik Lindgren's Beyond the Calico Wall comp, and Chocolate Soup for Diabetics Volume 2.

Tim Ellison, Sunday, 16 May 2004 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

As a rule I don't enjoy comps - they always leave me wanting to hear the whole albums by the good bands. I'm an 'album' kinda guy, especially when it comes to psych

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 16 May 2004 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

There are some truly great comps. And, of course, the majority of them consist mostly of tracks that were only on 45s.

I also think that there's a tendency for people to overrate obscure psych albums that are not actually that great all the way through. So, in this sense, I really love the Love, Peace, and Poetry series anthologizing the really good cuts from a lot of obscure albums.

Tim Ellison, Sunday, 16 May 2004 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Roger, you actually started a better psych thread for recommendations: favorite psych records


And me, well, I've got some unfinished business to attend to:

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 16 May 2004 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Roger, you actually started a better psych thread for recommendations: favorite psych records


And me, well, I've got some unfinished business to attend to:

1001 Interstellar Psychedelic Recordings Of The 1960's

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 16 May 2004 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)

oops, that came out twice. i must be triiiiiipppppping.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 16 May 2004 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)

And I don't get you about comps. I kiss my Rubble boxes every night before I go to sleep. Where would we be as a world without the prae-kraut pandaemonium series? There are so many great comps. And there were only about a zillion great bands who never made an album. Like Tim said.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 16 May 2004 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

That's true - but 95% of them at least made singles. I can't tell you how many sleepless nights I spent wondering what the B-side to Kiss, Inc's "Hey Mr Holy Man" sounded like (turned out it wasn't as great as the A side, which is one of the greatest songs ever)

I like comps ok, but, Scott, think about your favorite psych records. Could you reduce Ill Wind, The Index, Aguaturbia, Emtidi or Lazy Smoke to one song to sum it all up? No way. Comps are cliff's notes. They allow people to namedrop bands they hardly know anything about.

Then again, maybe I'm just a big nerd.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 16 May 2004 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

See, I think that Lazy Smoke album is OK, but maybe overrated. I'd heard "There Was a Time" on Love, Peace, and Poetry first. Then, I bought the Arf Arf reissue of Corridor of Faces and was underwhelmed. I also bought the Phantasia CD on World of Sound because I like that Trizo 50 track on LP&P so much (Trizo 50 was their later incarnation) and...well, if you've heard that maybe you'll understand how I felt (one of their biggest influences, I think, was Richard Harris). Oh, and I bought the Sundazed reissue of the Music Emporium album, too! It's...pretty good.

Thinking of that volume, will I ever buy the Darius album? The Hunger album? The Patron Saints album? Would I be disappointed if I did? (I WOULD, however, immediately buy a new reissue of the Michaelangelo album--the Void Michaelangelo album of tracks from the same period is EXCELLENT--probably the Zerfas album and quite possibly the Victoria album.)

Same thing with the British volume. How many of those albums are really excellent on the whole? (Actually, I do have the Bobak, Jons and Malone album and it is pretty good.)

Tim Ellison, Sunday, 16 May 2004 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Comps are great. The Endless Journey / Reverberation series changed my life. Where the hell else would I get "Diamond Studded Cadillacs" by Unsettled Society??

Broheems (diamond), Sunday, 16 May 2004 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think anybody's mentioned:

Kak
Moving Gelatine Plates
High Tide (Sea Shanties!!!!!!!!)
Cold Sun (just get Dark Shadows! wow!)
Plastic People of the Universe
Rain Parade ('80s sike gem)
Plan 9 (especially 'Dealing w/ the Dead')
Plasticland
Yatha Sidra
Dreamies
Alan Watts-This Is It!
Christine 23 Onna
Flower Travellin' Band
Euphoria
Freeborne
Intersystems (WAY out)
Kalacakra
Lula Cotres & ze Ramalho (Brazil)
Music Machine
The Speakers

Hell - there's tons!

Have fun digging!!!!!! :-)

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Monday, 17 May 2004 02:27 (twenty-two years ago)

that Ze Ramalho e Lula Cortes album is AMAZING. Seriously wigged-out stuff.

Broheems (diamond), Monday, 17 May 2004 03:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm scared of Rain Parade, and Plan 9, and Platicland. I don't think I want to listen to them.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 17 May 2004 03:39 (twenty-two years ago)

But dude, John Bullabaugh, put some of yer faves on this thread:

1001 Interstellar Psychedelic Recordings Of The 1960's

Cuz we are too stoned to finish it right now, so we need help.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 17 May 2004 03:42 (twenty-two years ago)

The later Plan 9 records are incredibly weird. They're not "psych" albums per se. I honestly don't know how to describe them.

Inspirational verse ("Wishful Thinking" from Ham and Sam Jammin' LP, 1989):

I had this whole other life
I planned it out I pulled it off
Nothing every went wrong
No one I knew ever died
I used rolling wheat fields for money
All the state prisons were closed
People named Larry were not bad guys

Tim Ellison, Monday, 17 May 2004 03:47 (twenty-two years ago)

And I like the first Rain Parade album and the EP that came out after it.

Tim Ellison, Monday, 17 May 2004 03:48 (twenty-two years ago)

"i look around" from that rain parade album is one of the best tracks to come out of the paisley underground scene

the surface noise made by people (electricsound), Monday, 17 May 2004 03:56 (twenty-two years ago)

If you start telling me I have to go buy some Three O'Clock albums I'm gonna scream!

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 17 May 2004 03:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Cuz then yer gonna tell me that I can't live without the first Bangles e.p. It's a slippery slope, i tellya.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 17 May 2004 04:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I draw the line at the hoodoo friggin' gurus.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 17 May 2004 04:00 (twenty-two years ago)

don't mind me. I've had a lot of beer. I don't usually stay up this late. It's a novelty.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 17 May 2004 04:01 (twenty-two years ago)

what's wrong with hoodoo gurus? several of their early singles are stone cold classics (they're not even remotely psychedelic though)

the surface noise made by people (electricsound), Monday, 17 May 2004 04:03 (twenty-two years ago)

i certainly can't live without the first bangles LP

the surface noise made by people (electricsound), Monday, 17 May 2004 04:04 (twenty-two years ago)

they had their psych moments. at times. no, i think they were great. they were a wonderful rock band. really.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 17 May 2004 04:05 (twenty-two years ago)

okay, now we are going down that slope.

I'll have YOU know, that I can't live without my Starstruck soundtrack!

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 17 May 2004 04:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Scott, Scott, give in...you WANT the Rainy Day album...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 May 2004 04:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Scott, scream away, but the Three O'Clock, at least when Louis Gutierrez was in the band, were pretty great. Yield to a dollar copy of Arrive without Travelling. The lyrics ans singing can be cloying, but that's some rocking psychedelic new wave with good guitar and a good drummer.

Tim Ellison, Monday, 17 May 2004 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Please tell me about the Ze Ramalho album with Lula Cortes - I know she plays on his (first?) album, but I wasn't aware they had a proper duo LP? What's the title?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 01:50 (twenty-two years ago)

The only album I know is Paebiru (yo Rog, I'm sharing that too if you need it.) I dunno if it's supposed to be a proper duo album or not; the zip file of it I received had them both listed in the title.

Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 02:23 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...
lets talk, once again, about psychedelia, about you and i, and how we listen to english psychedelia, and about tintern abbey, but, more to the point, about toby twirl/

scarper, its the rozzers! (gareth), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

toby twirl?

actually speaking of psychedelia, what are the Fading Yellow compilations like? anyone?

purple patch (electricsound), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
ah, sorry for not replying sooner jim. toby twirl did "mr faversham" i think. but, what i think you might like more is steve and stevie - "merry go round", its that fairground whimsy psychedelia, a la nick garrie, rather than the US stuff, which ive always preferred, but now i'm coming round a lot more to the sort of tea and biscuits and lsd brit psychedelia, more than before, perhaps

david acid (gareth), Sunday, 5 September 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

eleven months pass...
Hey Tim, I'm sure you find out about these things faster than I do, but the Bomp mailer says they're reissuing the Michealangelo album you mentioned upthread. . .

MICHAELANGELO - ST Mega rare psych monster
originally released on the tiny Guinn label in
1977, this lp has fetched 4 figures in the
collectors circuit. The Void reissue will be
exact to the original, color glossy cover, lyrics
and back of jacket, 600 pressing from Michael's
masters, 100 on marble green 500 black. Insert
will be included also. This is the release that
everyone has been asking for.Musically dreamy
psychedelic folk , the stuff of legend by now.

Sang Freud (jeff_s), Monday, 29 August 2005 00:27 (twenty years ago)

The current craze for all things psych has been striking me odd of late, especially because it seems to be accompanied by about 1/10 as much drug use and new-aged spirituality as in the 60s.

Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 29 August 2005 01:54 (twenty years ago)

Maybe the music just sounds good, even without drugs?

Mickey (modestmickey), Monday, 29 August 2005 02:53 (twenty years ago)

"about 1/10 as much drug use"

sez you.


a lot of it has to do with availability. the internet + cheap (and bountiful!) reissues, tons of info (the internet again, but also mags like mojo, etc) that was previously hard to come by. years ago, people acted like they were doing you a favor by selling you 30 dollar psych bootlegs that sounded like shit. now there is SO MUCH high quality (as well as plenty of dodgy shit of course) product to consume. and whenever there is that much arcane shit to be sampled, musicnerdz will flock cuz they iz curious motherfuckers.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 29 August 2005 03:09 (twenty years ago)

I'm not really complaining. There's a lot of great music being put out right now.

Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 29 August 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)

seven years pass...

I've been idly wondering - is there anything in the UK that is commonly cited as the "first" (or maybe first significant) psychedelic single...? In the US the Elevators I know the Elevators usually get the credit for first using the term, but I'm curious where people sort of mark the beginning of the UK's psych period in pop. Revolver?

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

Shapes of Things? Although earlier Yardbirds songs were already pretty psychedelic too.

wk, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

Arnold Layne?

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)

Paint It Black predates Revolver too.

wk, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:23 (thirteen years ago)

nah, "Strawberry Fields Forever" gets commonly cited, but mainly thru Beatles-centricity i guess

thread lock holiday (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

in terms of huge significant single rather than first experiment with the style

thread lock holiday (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

While this thread is bumped, another plug for Psychedelicized Radio, which rose from the ashes of Technicolor Web of Sound. They've upgraded to a 128kbs stream and have put a lot of work into expanding the playlist beyond the standard psych canon -- but deeper into more obscure artists, not expanding into watered down not-really-psych. Any station that plays "The Big Bright Green Pleasure Machine" by The Joyride is alright by me.

http://psychedelicized.com/

WmC, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:27 (thirteen years ago)


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