tbf those holes were rather small
― Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 18:41 (seven years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/features/festival-report/10059-are-music-festival-lineups-getting-worse/
this is a weird article in re how it doesn't really address the question in the title and doesn't acknowledge any kind of inside perspective into festival lineups vis a vis pitchfork fest. in fact, pfork fest is barely acknowledged at all. i'm also confused by the gender breakdown chart - if there's a band with two women and two men, it seems like that should count "more" than a solo female artist, but it doesn't seem like they're counting it that way? i don't know, just a weird and not particularly useful article.
― na (NA), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 19:08 (seven years ago) link
to turn the pedantry up a notch, let's consider this alternate reading of the sentence:
"It’s back-to-basics energy and prosaic storytelling make it his best solo album in years."
i.e. the album is back-to-basics energy; prosaic storytelling make[s] it his best... (in which case the error here would be the plural rather than singular form of "to make")
eh?
anyway, agree w/ wimmels that prosaic as a descriptor for lyrics is almost always derogatory; the word more or less means banal, pedestrian, unexceptional, even dull. "dazzling with prosaic details" is just a very misguided construction.
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 19:27 (seven years ago) link
to turn the pedantry up a notch, let's consider this alternate reading of the sentence:"It’s back-to-basics energy and prosaic storytelling make it his best solo album in years."
Again, this sentence was probably not by the author of the review, which is who Wimmels is quibbling with
― SSN Lucci (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 20:29 (seven years ago) link
i think you're sort of missing my point, but yes i understand the author didn't necessarily write those first two lines.
anyway, the author certainly wrote this:
This is Davies in Dylan mode, hyperbolic but as dazzling with prosaic details as his student Jarvis Cocker.
i'm not saying that a lyricist has never employed the prosaic to artistic effect. i'm just saying that it would be an unusual choice of words to call that effect "dazzling," and for that reason i think the author doesn't know what the word really means. that's all.
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 21:54 (seven years ago) link
or maybe it was slang for prose mosaic
― Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 22:10 (seven years ago) link
regardless, we should really keep this conversation going
― Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 01:20 (seven years ago) link
lmao holy shit i was reading the story about the brainiac documentary and the hyperlink for the kickstarter campaign was this http://deadspin.com/5986076/ladies-jr-smiths-twitter-come-on-will-have-you-sopping-wet
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 01:40 (seven years ago) link
no idea why I was mentioned, I don't give a shit about "prosaic" either way ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 02:24 (seven years ago) link
not to speak for whiney but i think he was nodding to your past posts about editors sabotaging stories by tinkering with the titles
― Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 03:11 (seven years ago) link
xpost lol @ ulysses
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 03:54 (seven years ago) link
the very existence of public-facing stories is greater sabotage than any editor could possibly inflict
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 07:32 (seven years ago) link
idk that phrase is bad maybe but there are ways to employ "prosaic" that are not derogatory--it's certainly better than saying "banal details", less clunky than "everyday details" and not as eggheaded as "quotidian details"
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 12:44 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEt1vV3KAH0
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 12:45 (seven years ago) link
"This is the last installment of this column in Pitchfork. Beginning in May it will appear in the Village Voice."http://pitchfork.com/features/greil-marcus-real-life-rock-top-10/10062-what-do-you-call-father-john-misty/
end of an era
― Frozen CD, Thursday, 20 April 2017 01:50 (seven years ago) link
Ha how many Marcus pitchfork columns were there -- three?
― tylerw, Thursday, 20 April 2017 01:59 (seven years ago) link
i think he did it for a year
― flappy bird, Thursday, 20 April 2017 02:05 (seven years ago) link
I take it back, he wrote a bunch and I wasn't paying attention.
― tylerw, Thursday, 20 April 2017 02:08 (seven years ago) link
I wonder how many people sent him hate mail
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 20 April 2017 02:11 (seven years ago) link
i liked his recent-ish thing about "right" being the new "like"
― flappy bird, Thursday, 20 April 2017 02:13 (seven years ago) link
"Prosaic" is always bad, read books
― albvivertine, Thursday, 20 April 2017 02:46 (seven years ago) link
read butts
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 20 April 2017 13:40 (seven years ago) link
two butts beating as one
― Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Thursday, 20 April 2017 13:42 (seven years ago) link
ok, i think it's kinda hilarious there was this widespread mocking of justin bieber for saying in the NYT Where Are U Now video that they were "expensive sounds" and now i've seen that exact language used in both p4k's DAMN. review and its Narkopop one today
― austinb, Friday, 21 April 2017 19:43 (seven years ago) link
honestly always liked it as a shorthand descriptor so i'm pleasantly surprised to see it popping up
― austinb, Friday, 21 April 2017 19:44 (seven years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/news/73105-new-doritos-bags-play-the-guardians-of-the-galaxy-soundtrack-on-built-in-cassette-decks/
― nomar, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 16:20 (seven years ago) link
If you’re a fan of cheesy snack foods and well-curated superhero film soundtracks, Doritos has developed just the thing for you.
http://del.h-cdn.co/assets/15/30/320x180/gallery-1437512018-wayne-s-world-product-placement.gif
― nomar, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 16:21 (seven years ago) link
I think they could jazz up these press release stories by speculating that the corporate spokesperson was smoking a blunt while responding to the writer's emails.
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 16:23 (seven years ago) link
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 17:20 (seven years ago) link
sorry my keyboard is sticky from all the Doritos
props on them for digging up "Mr. Blue Sky" i haven't heard that song in a commercial in a while
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 17:26 (seven years ago) link
bonkershttp://pitchfork.com/news/73115-father-john-mistys-bonkers-new-total-entertainment-forever-video-stars-macaulay-culkin-as-kurt-cobain/
― Frozen CD, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 14:39 (seven years ago) link
did they steal that "bonkers" set from Adam Green's Aladdin movie?
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 15:24 (seven years ago) link
― j., Wednesday, 26 April 2017 15:26 (seven years ago) link
Father John Misty Confirms That When He Bedded Taylor "Bonkers" Swift, There Were Virtual Dorito Crumbs in the Sheets
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 15:42 (seven years ago) link
ask and ye shall receive. they saved that for the interview w Adam Green. PWND
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 17:00 (seven years ago) link
jfc it feels like Pform is FJM's personal PR platform at this point, just stop it already
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 17:01 (seven years ago) link
I will never not be funny that Pitchfork still runs lede grafs like this after 20 years
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/23086-digital-dance/
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 27 April 2017 17:29 (seven years ago) link
okay lol
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 27 April 2017 17:31 (seven years ago) link
like an old friend
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 27 April 2017 17:38 (seven years ago) link
That Software review is one of the more embarrassing ones I've seen in a while.
― afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 27 April 2017 23:29 (seven years ago) link
it's not perfect but that Software album definitely dserves far better than that write-up and lowest billing for the day
― boxedjoy, Thursday, 27 April 2017 23:43 (seven years ago) link
Like honestly, it's so so so funny to me that this company has made literal millions upon millions on deals with huge media companies and inventing wildly profitable music festivals and at no point do they ever think to change their house style from "let's start with two sentences passionately explaining what it's like to use a service that's more popular than Facebook"
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 28 April 2017 00:30 (seven years ago) link
And, to be fair, since I'm old now, no shots at a young writer in a broken system.
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 28 April 2017 00:36 (seven years ago) link
never heard of Software but I'm liking this quite a bit
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 28 April 2017 20:24 (seven years ago) link
Worth reading Annie Zaleski's story on them and their rediscovery some weeks back:
https://daily.bandcamp.com/2017/03/09/software-band-interview/
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 April 2017 20:25 (seven years ago) link
I really don't like being told I like something because it's ironic and I'm just having a chuckle. No, actually, I like the album, and my feelings are completely genuine.
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 28 April 2017 20:41 (seven years ago) link
i never thought it was that obscure. but i live in a weird world.
― scott seward, Friday, 28 April 2017 20:45 (seven years ago) link