56 NIGHTS v BEAST MODE v MONSTER

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I do agree that he shouldn't be making 67-minute albums (not should almost anyone really), but there's plenty of material to do a killer 45-min edit of

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 27 February 2017 18:28 (seven years ago) link

imo anyone thinking this is better than 56 nights is insane.

ANU (sisilafami), Monday, 27 February 2017 18:51 (seven years ago) link

i've kind of written those three tapes out of history and mentally folded them into ds2

flopson, Monday, 27 February 2017 18:56 (seven years ago) link

it's true that this is too long. but that's the only crack against it

flopson, Monday, 27 February 2017 18:57 (seven years ago) link

jus like 56/monster/bm in 2015 im sure ill end up making a 20-track list that ill end up listening to more than anything else in 2017

Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Monday, 27 February 2017 19:03 (seven years ago) link

im in the s/t > hdnrix camp atm but it's close

Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Monday, 27 February 2017 19:05 (seven years ago) link

When you're as popular as Future is are there good commercial (if not artistic) reasons for just flooding streaming services with as much material as you can? I mean three albums in as many weeks feels a little excessive but if there are enough people who are going to play the shit out of all of them...

Matt DC, Monday, 27 February 2017 19:24 (seven years ago) link

I've got as far as 'Incredible' so far and I'm loving this. I lost interest in Future when he stopped putting the sugar in with the sleaze, and this has a shitload of both.

Matt DC, Monday, 27 February 2017 19:30 (seven years ago) link

The stretch from Damage to Fresh Air is about as good sequence as future's put on tape, imo.

^^

J0rdan S., Monday, 27 February 2017 20:41 (seven years ago) link

then you have keep quiet, hallucinating, selfish, solo & sorry in the second half so

||||||||, Monday, 27 February 2017 20:51 (seven years ago) link

the rihanna song is not good

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 27 February 2017 22:02 (seven years ago) link

im glad ppl like this though. he's a good artist.

i think its lame how he gets this major critical spotlight where ppl are overanalyzing his weakest shit when other artists of similar consistency dont but

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 27 February 2017 22:03 (seven years ago) link

i think its lame how he gets this major critical spotlight where ppl are overanalyzing his weakest shit

what does this mean? (curious)

flopson, Monday, 27 February 2017 22:20 (seven years ago) link

i find his filler to be kind of boring cuz as a personality ive never been super drawn to him (if not at times downright lame re: women—obv if the song is dope i dont much care lol but on the stuff that feels like more of a chore, living w/ it is kind of like "what am i doing here"), at least w/ some of the boom bap stuff that isn't hit-driven (im thinking personally/locally of like Chris & Vic or nationally that nu new york lyrical shit people like) there's more to latch onto as personalities & for the cleverness of the bars etc..... that stuff is treated as so marginal by the main critical establishment cuz its neither club music nor #woke

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 27 February 2017 22:29 (seven years ago) link

at least w/ some of the boom bap stuff that isn't hit-driven (im thinking personally/locally of like Chris & Vic or nationally that nu new york lyrical shit people like) there's more to latch onto as personalities & for the cleverness of the bars etc..... that stuff is treated as so marginal by the main critical establishment cuz its neither club music nor #woke

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, February 27, 2017 4:29 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think there's sort of a hopelessness baked into the stuff (i think) you're talking about, like the realization that they are sort of the last samurai of a certain tradition that will die with them (thinking esp the older dudes like ka, roc marciano, etc, and obv sean price kinda pioneered that space)

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 February 2017 22:35 (seven years ago) link

yeah there def has been that vibe but lately that lane has been expanding in a huge way .... sha hef & hus kingpin & westside gunn etc etc etc

i dont love all of it & it can def get too dry for me at times but its bringing something the game's missing

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 27 February 2017 22:49 (seven years ago) link

I still don't get 56 Nights

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 00:09 (seven years ago) link

i think 56 nights crazy

neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 00:11 (seven years ago) link

i find his filler to be kind of boring cuz as a personality ive never been super drawn to him (if not at times downright lame re: women—obv if the song is dope i dont much care lol but on the stuff that feels like more of a chore, living w/ it is kind of like "what am i doing here"), at least w/ some of the boom bap stuff that isn't hit-driven (im thinking personally/locally of like Chris & Vic or nationally that nu new york lyrical shit people like) there's more to latch onto as personalities & for the cleverness of the bars etc..... that stuff is treated as so marginal by the main critical establishment cuz its neither club music nor #woke

...i still dgi *shrugs*

flopson, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 00:14 (seven years ago) link

i never really noticed if Future was particularly more misogynist than other similar rappers.. tho there were some lines on HNDRXX that raised my hackles

flopson, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 00:18 (seven years ago) link

idk i was with you on the 'no personality' thing 3 years ago but now I think he's kind of outmaneuvered if not overcome that line of attack

flopson, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 00:19 (seven years ago) link

I'm not saying he's more or less misogynist than anyone, just that the concept of cuts like "collection" are kind of corny in a way that makes me feel secondhand embarrassment

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 05:16 (seven years ago) link

i think deej otm that future's personality...isn't uninteresting but it's not fascinating enough to bear the weight of the volume of material or conversation

lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 07:53 (seven years ago) link

That said I am coming around on quite a few of the songs on the new one. 2nd half >>> esp

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 10:32 (seven years ago) link

The production on these HNDRXX songs is so refreshing compared to the restraint of his more recent albums. Really loving the breathy backing vox on 'Use Me'

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 14:24 (seven years ago) link

What is going on at 0.38 - 0.41 on 'Fresh Air'? That's gotta be the most impenetrable mumblecore since that Thugger line on 'Lifestyle'

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 14:33 (seven years ago) link

when other artists of similar consistency dont but

you can just say chief keef

royce jung (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 16:06 (seven years ago) link

cn kinda understand the ~future has no personality~ argument but ultimately its just rap fan bingo imo, which is a lil funny since when he first came out everyones argument against him was that he didnt check the good rapper box and he was just a new tpain or something, ultimately his music just has a ton of emotional resonance and im not sure how u separate that from personality, tho admittedly its not usually how rap works, i do have sympathy for deejs complaints against some of his modes tho personally success future is my least fav

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 16:41 (seven years ago) link

i think the reason ppl are willing to dig through his vast and uneven catalog is because hes good and they like him lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 16:42 (seven years ago) link

you can just say chief keef

― royce jung (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:06 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i mean sure although he went all last year w/out releasing anything but i could as equally argue mozzy or anyone else, ive been critical of this for ages lol ppl treat rap music like its disposable until it gets certain high art cosign bona fides & then suddenly it's under a microscope

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 22:20 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMaQY3leQeI

Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 22:42 (seven years ago) link

still unclear on what deej's angle is but there are a million and one obvious reasons why Future is more popular and talked about than Mozzy or Keef

flopson, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 22:50 (seven years ago) link

if only lebron heard mozzy before future

neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 23:00 (seven years ago) link

still unclear on what deej's angle is but there are a million and one obvious reasons why Future is more popular and talked about than Mozzy or Keef

― flopson, Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:50 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Of course but it's not like ppl on ilx are normally only listening to things that have proved themselves commercially I mean there's like 4784856 dawn Richard stans here, keef & mozzy both pull more attention than her

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 23:05 (seven years ago) link

now I keep thinking about this friend's wedding i went to in 2013 where this guy who worked for nonprofit community orgs started ranting at me in the car about how irritating drill rap was and how the neighborhood kids wouldn't listen to anything else

so uh, it's been polarizing for a minute

mh 😏, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 00:54 (seven years ago) link

lol one of my chicago friends just finished a contract stint teaching there (forget which neighborhood) and said a similar thing: "they fucking HATE chance the rapper it's all king louie and lil durk"

royce jung (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:35 (seven years ago) link

🎶draco season with the bookbag🎶

lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 17:55 (seven years ago) link

otm

royce jung (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 18:01 (seven years ago) link

not positive the polarization is age-related but that's part of it

idk it could be worse, they could be the J. Cole kids

mh 😏, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 18:37 (seven years ago) link

here'e my edit so far:

1. Zoom
2. Draco
3. Mask Off
4. Outta Time
5. I'm So Groovy
6. Might As Well
7. Flip
8. When I Was Broke
9. Feds Did A Sweep
10. Use Me
11. Incredible
12. Testify
13. Fresh Air
14. Keep Quiet
15. Hallucinating
16. Turn On Me
17. Solo
18. Sorry

Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 21:36 (seven years ago) link

basically

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 March 2017 03:52 (seven years ago) link

how I break it down to an extent

||||||||, Thursday, 2 March 2017 19:55 (seven years ago) link

this is the future that liberals want
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m__LqtJCGA0

||||||||, Thursday, 2 March 2017 19:56 (seven years ago) link

i made tgat joke on twitter today lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 March 2017 22:03 (seven years ago) link

sounds great with the live band

flopson, Thursday, 2 March 2017 22:12 (seven years ago) link

thank's flopsellen

mh 😏, Friday, 3 March 2017 02:41 (seven years ago) link

halfway through and this is a gigantic snooze mildly livened up by some occasional cool beats

he's just not interesting or charismatic enough to be spending this time with as a personality

lex pretend, Friday, 3 March 2017 12:33 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFtGiK98dT0

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r|t|c, Friday, 3 March 2017 19:05 (seven years ago) link

the joke is i'd heard that a few times on p montana's show on radar and thought... meh too sango/rnbass and not english enough

r|t|c, Friday, 3 March 2017 19:08 (seven years ago) link

xp well, can't win em all. been a while since there's been a major rap release that has united goon cru + lex

flopson, Friday, 3 March 2017 19:28 (seven years ago) link


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