56 NIGHTS v BEAST MODE v MONSTER

Is this significantly different to his last few records?

Yeah, it's closer to r&b-Future.

i like both of the recent tapes pretty well. some filler, some keepers. enjoyable rap music

That's what I was hoping, the Future of the 2015 tapes and onwards has never done much for me.

HNDRXX is definitely worth a listen Matt DC. I didn't like anything he released last year.

these are his strongest albums since his renaissance imo save perhaps 56 nights

In other news, the Beast Mode instrumentals are fantastic. Never really cared for 'Ooooooh' but it really works without the vocal.

third album out Friday lol

nice, he must have so much unreleased material

he shouldn't release it all imo. there should be a law about it or something

too soon to tell but HNDRXX may be his best album. the production has a post-disco richness that, paired with his return to emotional vocals and singing, really really work. lex and everyone who have been bemoaning 'monochromatic-nihilistic-drugs-man Future will be pleased

wait I like monochromatic nihilistic Future way better than mumbly romantic Future

I'm not especially interested in this quantity of any type of Future or in checking this out yet

the best future imo maintains a subtle balance between the nihilism and the romanticism

hndrxx has some good moments. deej otm, all of his recent stuff has some really great moments and some boring filler

well still check it out, lex. i recommend anyone daunted by volume to skip Future and listen to HNDRXX. it's not a return to mumbly romantic Future, it's a whole new thing

"use me" huh this one is really good

HNDRXX is way more interesting than the self-titled imo (at least based on a few listens to both)

I will, I'm not avoiding it out of principle or daunted by volume, I'm just tired of wading through so much filler bc Future can't be bothered with quality control or editing

Naw deej's taste chess is off in this case, trying to get a foot in on the backlash before this gets wildly overrated. but it is that good (imo)

The stretch from Damage to Fresh Air is about as good sequence as future's put on tape, imo. There are a few other highlights throughout, but it tapers off a bit in the second half until the Rihanna song. Overall, it's a very welcome change in direction for Future, who, as much as I love him, really needed one

I do agree that he shouldn't be making 67-minute albums (not should almost anyone really), but there's plenty of material to do a killer 45-min edit of

imo anyone thinking this is better than 56 nights is insane.

i've kind of written those three tapes out of history and mentally folded them into ds2

it's true that this is too long. but that's the only crack against it

jus like 56/monster/bm in 2015 im sure ill end up making a 20-track list that ill end up listening to more than anything else in 2017

im in the s/t > hdnrix camp atm but it's close

When you're as popular as Future is are there good commercial (if not artistic) reasons for just flooding streaming services with as much material as you can? I mean three albums in as many weeks feels a little excessive but if there are enough people who are going to play the shit out of all of them...

I've got as far as 'Incredible' so far and I'm loving this. I lost interest in Future when he stopped putting the sugar in with the sleaze, and this has a shitload of both.

The stretch from Damage to Fresh Air is about as good sequence as future's put on tape, imo.

^^

then you have keep quiet, hallucinating, selfish, solo & sorry in the second half so

the rihanna song is not good

im glad ppl like this though. he's a good artist.

i think its lame how he gets this major critical spotlight where ppl are overanalyzing his weakest shit when other artists of similar consistency dont but

i think its lame how he gets this major critical spotlight where ppl are overanalyzing his weakest shit

what does this mean? (curious)

i find his filler to be kind of boring cuz as a personality ive never been super drawn to him (if not at times downright lame re: women—obv if the song is dope i dont much care lol but on the stuff that feels like more of a chore, living w/ it is kind of like "what am i doing here"), at least w/ some of the boom bap stuff that isn't hit-driven (im thinking personally/locally of like Chris & Vic or nationally that nu new york lyrical shit people like) there's more to latch onto as personalities & for the cleverness of the bars etc..... that stuff is treated as so marginal by the main critical establishment cuz its neither club music nor #woke

at least w/ some of the boom bap stuff that isn't hit-driven (im thinking personally/locally of like Chris & Vic or nationally that nu new york lyrical shit people like) there's more to latch onto as personalities & for the cleverness of the bars etc..... that stuff is treated as so marginal by the main critical establishment cuz its neither club music nor #woke

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, February 27, 2017 4:29 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think there's sort of a hopelessness baked into the stuff (i think) you're talking about, like the realization that they are sort of the last samurai of a certain tradition that will die with them (thinking esp the older dudes like ka, roc marciano, etc, and obv sean price kinda pioneered that space)

yeah there def has been that vibe but lately that lane has been expanding in a huge way .... sha hef & hus kingpin & westside gunn etc etc etc

i dont love all of it & it can def get too dry for me at times but its bringing something the game's missing

I still don't get 56 Nights

i think 56 nights crazy

i find his filler to be kind of boring cuz as a personality ive never been super drawn to him (if not at times downright lame re: women—obv if the song is dope i dont much care lol but on the stuff that feels like more of a chore, living w/ it is kind of like "what am i doing here"), at least w/ some of the boom bap stuff that isn't hit-driven (im thinking personally/locally of like Chris & Vic or nationally that nu new york lyrical shit people like) there's more to latch onto as personalities & for the cleverness of the bars etc..... that stuff is treated as so marginal by the main critical establishment cuz its neither club music nor #woke

...i still dgi *shrugs*

i never really noticed if Future was particularly more misogynist than other similar rappers.. tho there were some lines on HNDRXX that raised my hackles

idk i was with you on the 'no personality' thing 3 years ago but now I think he's kind of outmaneuvered if not overcome that line of attack

I'm not saying he's more or less misogynist than anyone, just that the concept of cuts like "collection" are kind of corny in a way that makes me feel secondhand embarrassment

i think deej otm that future's personality...isn't uninteresting but it's not fascinating enough to bear the weight of the volume of material or conversation

That said I am coming around on quite a few of the songs on the new one. 2nd half >>> esp

The production on these HNDRXX songs is so refreshing compared to the restraint of his more recent albums. Really loving the breathy backing vox on 'Use Me'

What is going on at 0.38 - 0.41 on 'Fresh Air'? That's gotta be the most impenetrable mumblecore since that Thugger line on 'Lifestyle'

when other artists of similar consistency dont but

you can just say chief keef

cn kinda understand the ~future has no personality~ argument but ultimately its just rap fan bingo imo, which is a lil funny since when he first came out everyones argument against him was that he didnt check the good rapper box and he was just a new tpain or something, ultimately his music just has a ton of emotional resonance and im not sure how u separate that from personality, tho admittedly its not usually how rap works, i do have sympathy for deejs complaints against some of his modes tho personally success future is my least fav

i think the reason ppl are willing to dig through his vast and uneven catalog is because hes good and they like him lol

you can just say chief keef

― royce jung (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, February 28, 2017 10:06 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i mean sure although he went all last year w/out releasing anything but i could as equally argue mozzy or anyone else, ive been critical of this for ages lol ppl treat rap music like its disposable until it gets certain high art cosign bona fides & then suddenly it's under a microscope