fuck liners!
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 30 April 2009 13:59 (fifteen years ago) link
PUT YOUR SUNGLASSES ONDANCING TO MY SUNGLASSES SONG
― Styles Davis (The Reverend), Sunday, 3 May 2009 07:53 (fifteen years ago) link
is anyone liking DJ MA1's "Waterfalls" as much as I am? Something about it's simplicity makes it feel much huger than it should be
― Styles Davis (The Reverend), Sunday, 3 May 2009 08:28 (fifteen years ago) link
of interest, especially Aidonia's "Inflation" vocal:
http://www.theheatwave.co.uk/blog/item/ja-bashment-meets-uk-funky/
― Styles Davis (The Reverend), Sunday, 3 May 2009 09:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Ha, I was about to post that!
― Tim F, Sunday, 3 May 2009 09:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Sticky & Lady Chann's "Your Eye Too Fast" from the same blog is great.
― Tim F, Sunday, 3 May 2009 09:37 (fifteen years ago) link
I'd have to take the Aidonia off repeat to listen to that and I'm not quite prepared to do such yet.
― Styles Davis (The Reverend), Sunday, 3 May 2009 09:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh right, the Sticky/Lady Chann is brilliant stuff, too.
― Styles Davis (The Reverend), Sunday, 3 May 2009 10:02 (fifteen years ago) link
x-post Ha ha. I've yet to decide if the autotuning on the Aidonia is too much, or if too much is never enough.
― Tim F, Sunday, 3 May 2009 10:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Between "Always Be Mine" and "Inflation"/"Bounce", Crazy Cousinz are having a good couple of months.
Also their new remix of "Bongo Jam" (I think it's by them) with the massive dirty bassline section. Reminds me of those old Wideboys remixes of Artful Dodger.
― Tim F, Sunday, 3 May 2009 10:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Right now I can't ever see myself tiring of shit like this.
― Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Sunday, 3 May 2009 10:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Man alive, those funky/dancehall tracks are JAWDROPPING. Any reservations about the autotune are utterly blown away by TICK TICK TICK TOCK and WINE UP AND WINE UP AND WINE UP AND WINE UP.
I had the reverse reaction to the Reverend, it took me ages to get to Aidonia because I couldn't stop playing Your Eye Too Fast.
― Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Sunday, 3 May 2009 11:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Also does the Lady Chann really contain the line "me a the Chris Brown you a the Rihanna" or did I just imagine that?
― Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Sunday, 3 May 2009 11:26 (fifteen years ago) link
"stupid skank" redeems the uk for at least 3 shitty britpop bands
― Styles Davis (The Reverend), Sunday, 3 May 2009 11:30 (fifteen years ago) link
xp: no you didn't
― Styles Davis (The Reverend), Sunday, 3 May 2009 11:34 (fifteen years ago) link
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― Styles Davis (The Reverend), Monday, 4 May 2009 05:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Apparently the Heatwave blog dude DJed at Fwd last night and the first two tracks he played were Eye Too Fast and Bounce.
― Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Monday, 4 May 2009 13:55 (fifteen years ago) link
oh yeah i was gonna post that. gabriel's actual heatwave club night is always reliably excellent too but i think this was the first time he'd played at fwd. much wining of waists ensued.
(oneman played an amazing old-school set which culminated in this brilliant garage rmx of mariah's 'my all', and ramadanman played this completely insanely rhythmic set...)
― lex pretend, Monday, 4 May 2009 13:59 (fifteen years ago) link
Speaking of ramadanman, his recent podcast for Appleblim's Apple Pips label includes that awesome funky track which marcus plays, a fractured rolling tribal number with these awesome 2-step-style cut-up female vocals. It's like an ever-so-slightly feminized version of Lil' Silva's "Tribal Land". I wonder if it's his own?
― Tim F, Monday, 4 May 2009 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link
The first tune on the April 29 Marcus Nasty Set is another amazing track in this dancehall/funky fusion style. A shame there's something up with the rinsefm set at the moment and i can't download this properly at the moment.
― Tim F, Monday, 4 May 2009 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Seriously people.
For a certain to be amazing dj set at my impending birthday party I am thinking of bridging from dancehall to funky via dreamweaver riddim (prob. Elephant Man's "Blessed") ---> "Bounce".
― Tim F, Monday, 4 May 2009 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm totally late on "Party Hard", but HOTDAMN THE BASS IS HUMONGOUS
― Styles Davis (The Reverend), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 01:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Rev, have you heard "Love To Happen", based around DJ Gregory's "Don't Panic"? It's also massive.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 04:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Is that another Donaeo track?
― Styles Davis (The Reverend), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 04:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Yes!
You really should download the March Mak 10/Shantie set already.Not sure if this link still works:
http://uploadground.com/files/1W86IJS3/DJ_Mak_10___Shantie_MC_-_26_Mar_2009_-_www.vulive.co.uk_-_DejaVuFM.mp3
― Tim F, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 05:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Artist: VA Title: This Is UK Funky House Vol. 1 - Presented By Crazy Cousinz (2009)Release Date: 11.05.2009Label: Rinse FMGenre: HouseQuality: VBR kbps / 44.1kHz / Joint-Stereo
Tracklist:
CD 1:01. Crazy Cousinz & Kyla - Do You Mind02. Estelle - Come Over (Crazy Cousinz Remix)03. Alesha Dixon - Boy Does Nothing (Crazy Cousinz Remix)04. Meleka - Go (Crazy Cousinz Remix)05. Garrison Hawk - Sweet Music (Crazy Cousinz Remix)06. Lemar - If She Only Knew (Crazy Cousinz Remix)07. K.I.G - Head, Shoulders, Kneez & Toez (Crazy Cousinz Remix)08. Hannah Liston - Embrace Me (Crazy Cousinz Remix)09. Natty - July (Crazy Cousinz Remix)10. Sadie Ama - Those Where The Days (Crazy Cousinz Remix)11. Leo - Hey Girl (Crazy Cousinz Remix)12. Charlene Dance & Major Ace - Money (Crazy Cousinz Remix)13. Young Don - Always Be My Baby (Crazy Cousinz Remix)14. Leo - Indecent Proposal (Crazy Cousinz Remix)15. Sniper - Dat Body (Crazy Cousinz Remix)16. Ava Leigh - La La La? (Crazy Cousinz Remix)17. Jay SeanTonight (Crazy Cousinz Remix)18. Crazy Cousinz Ft Kimona - I See You19. Crazy Cousinz Ft Calista - Bongo Jam
CD 2:01. Geeneus Ft Katy B - As I02. Crazy Cousinz - Inflation Instrumental03. Perempay And Dee Ft Katie Pearl - Something In The Air04. Donaeo - Devil In A Blue Dress05. Hard House Banton - Sirens06. Dubplate Malice - Gabryelle Refix07. Def1 Feat Nyah - Frontline08. Donaeo - African Warrior09. Crazy Cousinz Ft Mc Versatile - Funky Anthem10. Geeneus & Zinc Ft Nikki - Emotions11. MA1 Ft Sim Simmy - Give It Up12. DJ Naughty - Quicktime13. Apple - Chants14. DJ Footloose Ft Courtney Dennie - So Dangerous15. Crazy Cousinz - Attract Instrumental16. Attacca Pesante Ft Shea Soul - Make It Funky For Me17. Tadow - Hornz18. Fr3e - Tribal Skank (Skank Calm Down)19. Roska - Climate Change20. Apple - De Sieliger21. Fingaprint - Takeover22. Sticky Ft Sim Simmy - How Very Dare You23. DJ Seany B - Stompa24. Wookie Ft Ny - Fallin Again
― Tim F, Saturday, 9 May 2009 01:43 (fifteen years ago) link
LOL at calling your comp "This Is Funky House" and then making it two/thirds your own productions, but then that first disc is probably the one I'm looking forward to more.
A lot of the second disc selections look old now (albeit reliable, and superior to the mix-disc on Volumes), but then I guess that was inevitable. I wonder if, had I been following UK garage as very closely right through 1999, I would have been similarly underwhelmed by the tracklists of all those early-2000 compilations.
― Tim F, Saturday, 9 May 2009 01:46 (fifteen years ago) link
it's being billed as a crazy cousinz album, so that first disc is justifiable! and preferable, i think we'll all agree, to CC actually trying to do An Album. both cds are really really great to listen to, anyway, little new for us lot i guess but excellent primers. though i guess they couldn't afford to put the jazmine/shontelle remixes on :(
― lex pretend, Saturday, 9 May 2009 01:57 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm surprised they didn't include their own "Always Be Mine" - totally massive track! Though "Attract" is ace as well.
Shame about the Jazmine Sullivan remix, I think that may be their finest remix effort. Really need a high-quality version. The "PULL UP!" bit would cause dancefloor devastation I imagine.
― Tim F, Saturday, 9 May 2009 02:47 (fifteen years ago) link
I love the "Sweet Music" remix as well, and haven't even heard their take on K.I.G.
Not so into the Estelle remix which seems a bit by numbers. And they were wise to leave off their remix of "Sex Shooter", which is fine but it's an annoying song. They should have included their remix of Platnum's "Loveshy" though.
― Tim F, Saturday, 9 May 2009 02:49 (fifteen years ago) link
So, am I right in assuming the first disc is unmixed and the second disc is a mix?
― magna cum lord (The Reverend), Saturday, 9 May 2009 06:53 (fifteen years ago) link
nah, they're both mixed
― lex pretend, Saturday, 9 May 2009 08:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah that second disc looks a pretty great introduction to the scene, I've been wondering what the first commercial funky compilation would look like. Shame 'In The Morning' isn't on there though.
I was in a very suburban high street pub in deep SE London last night and the DJ played the CC mix of 'The Boy Does Nothing', followed by 'Do You Mind', 'In The Air' and 'Bongo Jam'. My first thought was 'lol 2008' but on the other hand people seemed really into it.
― Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Saturday, 9 May 2009 11:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Saw Kode 9 last night and first half hour or so of his set was funky dominated, was really good.
― languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Saturday, 9 May 2009 14:07 (fifteen years ago) link
so the rinse 'volumes' comps are going to all be like that from now? not sure i wanna hear so many funky 'albums' really. id prefer it was just mixes. the 2nd one will prob be good/fun but do we still need tunes like something in the air on comps? i wanna see ppl put out mixes of all fresh stuff.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 9 May 2009 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link
oops i didnt read theyre both mixed. either way, stupid title lol.
"I've been wondering what the first commercial funky compilation would look like."
geeneus already did it...
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 9 May 2009 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link
this thread, i think, has proven to me that 'funky house' is not very funky-- in fact, much of what i like about it is simply Defected-style progressive house tarted up a bit. i mean, i like some of Julien Jabre's stuff and after listening to some Kyla tracks i have im all right with her, but i still don't get how this is the big thing in the UK right now.
― the table is the table, Saturday, 9 May 2009 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Julien Jabre doesn't really have anything to do with what's being talked about on this thread? None of the funky i've heard sounds remotely like prog.
― languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Saturday, 9 May 2009 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link
admittedly i'm only a dilettante.
― languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Saturday, 9 May 2009 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link
the table is the table, how much UK funky did you listen to before you decided to offer your definitive opinion?
Because funky isn't so much a sound as a (cough) continuum that runs from "Do You Mind" through to "Seasons". I could easily come up with five or ten funky tracks that, if you heard them in isolation, you would assume belonged to separate genres. Kyla's material is close to the conservative end of the scene.
(And none of those genres sound like progressive house, though I suspect you're using that term incorrectly as nor does Julien Jabre)
It's a bit like someone coming on to the techno/house bobbins 2009 thread and saying, "man, I listened to a Steve Bug record and I have no idea why you're so into all this stuff!"
― Tim F, Sunday, 10 May 2009 00:59 (fifteen years ago) link
also, the genre name is a bit of a misnomer
― numerous circles of frontin (The Reverend), Sunday, 10 May 2009 01:10 (fifteen years ago) link
I said this on dissensus re the name:
"Granted that the name "funky" is inherited, I think that in an odd way it does have purchase.
With the benefit of hindsight it's clear that a big part of the appeal of more conventional funky house was, perhaps from the beginning (or certainly from 2005), a certain allegiance to syncopation, the push-'n'-pull between the 4X4 kick and the counter-rhythm patterns on top, which perseveres in current funky.
Hence the Dennis Ferrer mix of "The Cure and the Cause" being such a pivotal track in the UK scene's emergence as a distinct (though not necessarily original or innovative at that stage) scene in itself.
While soca patterns have a huge role within current funky, it's also clear that they don't exhaust the current rhythmic template of the genre (no-one in this thread is saying it does - I just want to be clear). In this sense that soca beat could be said to occupy the same role as the basic 2-step beat in garage - lots of tracks use it or a variation of it, but it's only the most obvious of many forms the rhythmic template thows up.
However, I think you could characterise the overall rhythmic template as being one in which counter-rhythms are given a more decisive and prominent role, at times resulting in the abolition of the 4X4 kick (e.g. "A Little Bit Funky" or "Always Be Mine" - though even on tunes like these the absent kick has an implied presence in a way it didn't in, say, 2-step).
Off the top of my head I can't think of many tunes at all which just use a straight house beat with no counter-rhythmic adornment. That awsome Spryo tune on Marcus Nasty's November set with all the MCs toasting on top comes to mind, but even there there was a counter-rhythmic 5-pulse-per-bar chord which provided the same push'n'pull tension. You don't get really monolithic 1-2-3-4 tracks that predominate in regular house.
It's that sense in which "funky" actually means something still I think - whether it accords with more conservative definitions of funk is a separate question, but I'd say if it did the music probably wouldn't be as interesting... "
― Tim F, Sunday, 10 May 2009 01:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, but funky draws it's syncopations much more from afro-carribean musical traditions than the african-american ones that would more likely be associated with the word "funk". I agree with your general points, but at the same time, it's no mystery why the genre tag might be confusing.
― numerous circles of frontin (The Reverend), Sunday, 10 May 2009 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link
(Although I should add that my impression, rightly or wrongly, is that prior to this new wave that started last year, funky house DID draw more from afro-american traditions than afro-carribeanisms.)
― numerous circles of frontin (The Reverend), Sunday, 10 May 2009 17:51 (fifteen years ago) link
some of it is kinda funky, at least in a loose 'rhythmically driving/very syncopated' sense of the term. but then i always thought (trad) funky house was wrongly named to begin with.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Sunday, 10 May 2009 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link
i get it, Tim. (I still would characterize Julien Jabre as progressive, though with much variation along that continuum).
i just think of funky house as...well, what is now called 'deep house.' shit like Paul Randolph and more disco-funk influenced house....whereas much of the funky-labelled stuff seems much more influenced by Defected-style big-room house or big-room New York house (ie Ibadan and Nite Grooves), with a much more soca and hip-hop flavor.
also, tim, it's not that i dislike it. in fact i'm warming to its sound quite a bit-- i'm just a bit skeptical, that's all. i'm sure that if i went out to a funky night in the UK or someplace else where it is very popular, i'd have a great time.
― the table is the table, Sunday, 10 May 2009 20:08 (fifteen years ago) link
As I mentioned upthread, the wonderful thing about UK funky is that it can and does encapsulate virtually the entire history of house music in all its forms with the aid of one rhythmic tweak. Your post raised an eyebrow with me even before Tim interjected - funky can be and already is a much wider range of things than most other dance genres.
And it isn't "very popular" in the UK - in fact most people don't even know what it is right now. It isn't even getting much media coverage over here, although that might change if the sound blows up at the Notting Hill Carnival this year.
― Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Sunday, 10 May 2009 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Tabes, I think the point is that is should be accepted for what it is, rather than what you think it should be.
― numerous circles of frontin (The Reverend), Sunday, 10 May 2009 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Off the top of my head I can't think of many tunes at all which just use a straight house beat with no counter-rhythmic adornment.
'What's In Your Handbag', also the Perempay & Dee remix of 'I'm Right Here' by MA1. But yes, very few. I sort of think of the straight 4/4 as the equivalent of kick-less sections in techno, maybe it re-energises the dancers for when the syncopation comes back in.
― Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Sunday, 10 May 2009 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link
sorry, Crazy Cousinz are having some sort of TV special soon, and that means it is popular, in my mind. and yes, i do understand the way television works in the UK and other countries.
― the table is the table, Monday, 11 May 2009 01:01 (fifteen years ago) link